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LuckyXII

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Was heading home and this happened. Initially I thought that maybe they didn’t see me but they continued moving after I blasted them with the horn.

I looked back at the video and it seems like arrived at the pedestrian crossing lane first.

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At a 4-way stop the person to the right goes first. You jumped the gun.
I can respect that but why continue moving after we were driving towards each other.
 

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I can respect that but why continue moving after we were driving towards each other.
Can you imagine what the dashcam footage was like for the other guy? He couldn’t believe someone was just going to drive out there like that, so he went around him instead of worry about what other move he’d pull or just clogging up the intersection.
 

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Can you imagine what the dashcam footage was like for the other guy? He couldn’t believe someone was just going to drive out there like that, so he went around him instead of worry about what other move he’d pull or just clogging up the intersection.
Not much traffic in the area and I honestly felt like I approached the intersection first, even if it was for a one second ahead them but who knows maybe he felt the same way.
 

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who knows maybe he felt the same way.
As humans, we not only make mistakes, we also assign intent and attitudes to others when in reality we have no idea what they’re thinking. The other guy probably was wondering what this moron was doing and just drove around. Who knows? I’ve been in both situations myself.
 

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Yeah, you two "stopped" :p at about the same time, so technically he would have right-of-way, but a reasonable and prudent driver wouldn't continue accelerating towards an accident and then swerve around it at last second.
 

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I like to be agreeable with people but I have to go the other way here. I would have waited for the other car to go first then took my turn. Any time its close to the same arrival the person to the right goes first. If I saw them in time I would have stopped short of the stop then moved up a hair more stopping fully to make it look like I arrived second. It is what it is so long as there was no accident.
 

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I have to agree with the others. Really, neither of you stopped at the 4-way. It looks to me like he tried to do a quick stop before the line so as to make it look like he had "stopped" first. Plus he is on the right. Then when you both went at the same time, he took the shortcut to the side of you to avoid the chance of a T-bone accident.

I can see what you were thinking, but I'd be willing to bet he was thinking the exact same thing...plus he figured he had "right of way" and slowed first.

The good news is you didn't meet in the middle!
 

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It's not my place to lay blame, but I will offer some old man advice. I know the rule is first one to the line has right away. If it's a tie, or too close to call, the person to the right assumes right away. I prefer to be safe. If it's close, I wave them ahead. 3 seconds longer isn't worth getting into an accident, or causing an injury.
At traffic lights, I always delay long enough to look around after my light turns green. My daughter used to say, "But, you have right of way." I would respond with, "Would that matter if someone totals our car and/or kills us?"
 

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The driver knew exactly what he was doing which was to treat you as an obstacle to his movement, an obstacle which he then circumvented. It was a calculated and deliberate move which he (guaranteed to be a guy) has very likely pulled before.

The problem from your perspective is you don't know his tactics and couldn't have predicted his aggressive yet highly effective maneuver so it's more startling than anything.
 
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I give the green light a second or two as well to make sure no one is running the red. Not too long though or the people behind you will think you’re texting and didn’t notice the light turn green. Ha.
 

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Looks to me like he arrived at the intersection first and also was on the right. You definitely should have yielded.
 

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It's not my place to lay blame, but I will offer some old man advice. I know the rule is first one to the line has right away. If it's a tie, or too close to call, the person to the right assumes right away. I prefer to be safe. If it's close, I wave them ahead. 3 seconds longer isn't worth getting into an accident, or causing an injury.
At traffic lights, I always delay long enough to look around after my light turns green. My daughter used to say, "But, you have right of way." I would respond with, "Would that matter if someone totals our car and/or kills us?"
@RadarScout , I totally agree with all of your advice. It reminded me of a “close call” I had 3 or 4 years ago. I had two left turn lanes on my left and I was in the left of 3 “go straight” lanes for a total of 5 East bound lanes. Our East bound lanes had a green light and a green arrow for the left turn lanes. My view of the South Bound traffic was blocked by a lifted full size truck, but I noticed the truck hadn’t started moving forward to turn left, and I didn’t move forward, and within several seconds a South Bound 18 wheeler came through intersection at about 40-45 mph that would have may have crushed my car if I would have moved forward when my light turned green. I had my wife and two children with me that day in my car. I don’t think I will ever forget that “close call”. I think most of us have had some “close call” incidents over the years.

Sometimes it is better to be patient than “in the right.” Having said that, I have had a few at fault accidents over the span of many years where those accidents wouldn’t have occurred if I would have been more patient.

@LuckyXII , the other driver’s left hand turn was definitely “aggressive” regardless of who got to the intersection first. The important thing is no accident occurred and no one got hurt.


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