Genevo One M vs Mesta Fusion good but quite useless

rmarella

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Hi everyones,

Today I have made some road tests using my Genevo One M vs Mesta Fusion
Mesta Fusion.jpeg


Here in France we have a lot of this radar being installed at the spot where the Mesta Radars have been destroyed (here in France a contestatory mouvement against gouvernement politics act literally burning speed radars).
Mesta Fusion is a difficult to detect radar.
It is a K band FMCW radar switching between K band frequency in a very fast way.
The settings that allowed to detect the Mesta was : K band on (narrow or wide), K filter OFF, Ka OFF, MRCD wide, MRCT wide, MRCT filter off, GATSO RT3 and 4 ON, Laser ON.
I had a 200 meters K band alert facing or rear detection.
No MRCT or MRCD detection.
The problem is: with K band filter Low you have no alert.
With K band filter off the One M is useless and it alert too much frequently .
Another think I've noticed is that with the latest firmware installed I had a K band alert only.
Some month ago, I tested the One M vs a Mesta Fusion like this one and I had K band alert, MRCT and MRCD alert at the same time.
I wander that I had a K band alert only this time.
How can you explain that?
French gouvernement wish to install a lot of Mesta Fusion this year.
Not all spot will have a real radar in the box.
The mirrors in the radar box will be covered with a picture of the radar instead of having an operating radar inside .
So you never know if the radar box is empty or not and you better slow down.
Genevo will not help you because the K band filter off will means to turn off the detector before your wife will destroy it :)
 

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We have that here too. They also occasionally move the guts and leave the Enclosure.

There’s 6 k band frequencies that change very rapidly. So fast that most detectors on the market can’t get a sniff or misidentify it.
It’s also aimed very narrow and low.

The just installed a new one 4 blocks from
my house. I’ve must of really pissed them
off. Not only do I get greeted with MRCD outside my front door, I get a Mesta Fusion 5 blocks closer to home than the other one I usually hit.

I now have one North, West, and south within 2 miles of my home. The only reason there’s not one east is..... I live on the very east side of the city and you’ll be out of Edmonton. 😂

Then it’s Dragoneye, Stalker, and Raptor territory to the east. I’m so lucky.
This is what our Mesta Fusions look like.
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I guess I should answer the question better than I did.

The 6 rapid k band changes are what fools the detectors.

You can turn everything on. MRCD, MRCT, Gatso, K wide.... it’s a crap shoot of what will come up. More times than not, you’ll get complete silence.

Even though it’s K band, it’s the rapidly changing frequencies that don’t allow the detectors to get a good enough look at it to nail it down.

There’s nothing on the market.... right now... that has the speed to catch it clean and identify it.

Trust me.... I’ve hit them with every top end detector. There isn’t one of them I could recommend as a defence to the Mesta on it’s own without the help of Waze or the RLC database.

If it see’s 3.... it could be MRCT
If it see’s 4... it could be MRCD
If it sees 2...... it could be Reflex or Gatso.
If it see’s 1.... k band.

If it could see all 6..... we’d need a WTF alert.

Not everyone has a detector that can do all that or want to have all those options on as the false’s alerts would drive you nuts.

Your lucky if you get a reflection from a car in front of you. Good luck even when you pass it. It happens.... but it’s almost as reliable as Lidar detection from a radar detector.

The good part about it.... well for me anyway....is that they’re strictly a RLC, “Speed on Green” type of enforcement. Most of the time, they are in the RLC data base in NA. The intersections are well marked.

There’s other things the Mesta Fusion can do as well that you should be aware of. Illegal left/right hand turns and following too close. There’s a couple of other things that I can’t think of right now. It’s not used like that here, but it has the capability to do so if the options are activated.

I know this doesn’t help for our brothers in Europe, or other places, but most detectors have a “Mark Location” options to give you a heads up incase you forget.

I hope this helps and gives you a better understanding of how it works and why it’s so effective.
 

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We have that here too. They also occasionally move the guts and leave the Enclosure.

There’s 6 k band frequencies that change very rapidly. So fast that most detectors on the market can’t get a sniff or misidentify it.
It’s also aimed very narrow and low.

The just installed a new one 4 blocks from
my house. I’ve must of really pissed them
off. Not only do I get greeted with MRCD outside my front door, I get a Mesta Fusion 5 blocks closer to home than the other one I usually hit.

I now have one North, West, and south within 2 miles of my home. The only reason there’s not one east is..... I live on the very east side of the city and you’ll be out of Edmonton. 😂

Then it’s Dragoneye, Stalker, and Raptor territory to the east. I’m so lucky.
This is what our Mesta Fusions look like.
Post automatically merged:

I guess I should answer the question better than I did.

The 6 rapid k band changes are what fools the detectors.

You can turn everything on. MRCD, MRCT, Gatso, K wide.... it’s a crap shoot of what will come up. More times than not, you’ll get complete silence.

Even though it’s K band, it’s the rapidly changing frequencies that don’t allow the detectors to get a good enough look at it to nail it down.

There’s nothing on the market.... right now... that has the speed to catch it clean and identify it.

Trust me.... I’ve hit them with every top end detector. There isn’t one of them I could recommend as a defence to the Mesta on it’s own without the help of Waze or the RLC database.

If it see’s 3.... it could be MRCT
If it see’s 4... it could be MRCD
If it sees 2...... it could be Reflex or Gatso.
If it see’s 1.... k band.

If it could see all 6..... we’d need a WTF alert.

Not everyone has a detector that can do all that or want to have all those options on as the false’s alerts would drive you nuts.

Your lucky if you get a reflection from a car in front of you. Good luck even when you pass it. It happens.... but it’s almost as reliable as Lidar detection from a radar detector.

The good part about it.... well for me anyway....is that they’re strictly a RLC, “Speed on Green” type of enforcement. Most of the time, they are in the RLC data base in NA. The intersections are well marked.

There’s other things the Mesta Fusion can do as well that you should be aware of. Illegal left/right hand turns and following too close. There’s a couple of other things that I can’t think of right now. It’s not used like that here, but it has the capability to do so if the options are activated.

I know this doesn’t help for our brothers in Europe, or other places, but most detectors have a “Mark Location” options to give you a heads up incase you forget.

I hope this helps and gives you a better understanding of how it works and why it’s so effective.
Hi Heywood .

Thank a lot for your detailed answer.
So my one M detect is as a K band radar.
But to allow that you gave to set K band filter off.
As you said they are in fixed spot and usually some apps like Waze can help you find them .
Not having a reliable alert you never know if the radar is present or if the box is void.
A press article recently told that the empty radar cabins are those who don't have the air conditioning unit close to them.
It seems that the air conditioning unit when is on is noisy.
So hopefully they are not being used in a police car because of you will have no way to be alerted of.
The can send a fine in case of a closer distance between cars, if you're using a phone while driving too.
But they are used only for speed tickets here on France.
For now...........
 

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