Theia speculation burn out

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And, we are back to the 'radar gun manufacturers will change their product line in reaction to Theia' topic. Will it never end? :bang:Clearly not.😭
 
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@aim4squirrels I hear what your saying.

I look at it from a strictly numbers view point on this topic. As much as we are all RD enthusiasts, most of the world isn’t.

Lidar was more of a useful tool to enforce the super highways we build now than a way to combat RD usage.

I can’t see one radar detector change the way radar gun manufactures make things too much. There’s just too many people (fish) out there to catch without them having to invest in the R&D, as well as the tooling for a very small % of users.

I’m sure that if the new Radenso technology wasn’t patented protected, we would be getting the information we are?

I hope the other RD manufactures step up their game. It’s good for us... the consumer
I agree, and if the LEO gun manufacturers are as lazy (or more lazy) than most of the radar detector manufacturers are about true innovation, we've don't have much to worry about. There's always the possibility of that one though.

And if they really are that lazy regarding development, keeping some things hush-hush might be enough of a barrier to keep them from even bothering.

The access works both ways. I love knowing exactly how my detector works from a technical standpoint, but I hate that the other side does too.
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And, we are back to the 'radar gun manufacturers will change their product line in reaction to Theia' topic. Will it never end? :bang:Clearly not.😭
The cat and mouse game will likely never will, therefore the only option if you're going to play is to hold on to your advantage as long as possible.
 
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I agree, and if the LEO gun manufacturers are as lazy (or more lazy) than most of the radar detector manufacturers are about true innovation, we've don't have much to worry about. There's always the possibility of that one though.

And if they really are that lazy regarding development, keeping some things hush-hush might be enough of a barrier to keep them from even bothering.
As has been discussed before, they are not lazy. They are making a business decision. Developing hardware/firmware/new device in response to Theia would cost money. 💰 Money they would never recoup in additional sales. Imagine the sales pitch, "How would you like to spend thousands of dollars to replace some, or all, of your radar guns to catch some vehicles, who may drive through your jurisdiction and who may be using the most expensive RD on the market?" Wow, where do I sign for that deal.:rolleyes:🤣
 

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Anyone else besides me suffering from this ailment? Don’t take this the wrong way, I really do want one of these game changing devices. I just want Radenso to end the suffering by announcing a price and a release date.
Welcome to the forum. This is nuthin’ on the pain and suffering scale compared to past Uniden firmware updates (1.48?) and the no-end in sight Valentine “temporarily out of stock” saga. :mmmsmug:
 

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Honestly they probably don’t want to give a time frame until they are close enough to execute on it. The last thing they want is to hear 2 more week comments from the forum members. For now they are showing the development process to take enthusiasts on the design, build and production journey with them.
Maybe if Valentine was as transparent and truthful they would receive less roasting on the forum.
 

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Honestly they probably don’t want to give a time frame until they are close enough to execute on it. The last thing they want is to hear 2 more week comments from the forum members. For now they are showing the development process to take enthusiasts on the design, build and production journey with them.
Maybe if Valentine was as transparent and truthful they would receive less roasting on the forum.
Mike WAS open at one time. Rd.net bit his hand (well before this forum even existed). Now he doesn’t put his hand in anymore to be bitten.
 

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Welcome to the forum. This is nuthin’ on the pain and suffering scale compared to past Uniden firmware updates (1.48?) and the no-end in sight Valentine “temporarily out of stock” saga. :mmmsmug:
Let's not forget when Uniden's PM left and unexpectedly was the root of all issues. I still blame that for anything that happens, like last night's scotch Adventure that went on far too long, like a Lord of the Rings ending....that damn Kuni, I should of known...

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If all we had were post by Radenso on any updates it would be fine but all these silly separate posts about speculation on price, timing, features, whether it will be a boy or girl, on and on.

Now add posts like this which add no information or value and you have topic discussion overload, TDO. I suggest you get therapy, it may help.
 

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If all we had were post by Radenso on any updates it would be fine but all these silly separate posts about speculation on price, timing, features, whether it will be a boy or girl, on and on.

Now add posts like this which add no information or value and you have topic discussion overload, TDO. I suggest you get therapy, it may help.
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The major advantage that Theia has over other detectors is zero false alerts. I don't think that radar manufacturers really care about that so much that they would develop something radical.
 

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The major advantage that Theia has over other detectors is zero false alerts. I don't think that radar manufacturers really care about that so much that they would develop something radical.
Agreed. There’s huge benefits to us as CM users, but not really to police officers. At the end of the day, they still have IO which Theia can’t detect, and that’s what radar guns manufacturers have been pushing for ages.

Theia can differentiate between IO and CO which is nice bonus info for us, but it doesn’t matter for LEO’s. It can also classify radar guns like Stalker or MPH guns. We already have this to a limited extent by using frequency. It’s great info for us, but again doesn’t really make a difference to LEO’s.

There’s MRCD and whatnot and Theia should be better with that, but we already have RDs that can detect them too.

If anything I think laser jammers have/had a much bigger effect on LEO’s than Theia ever will and I can’t see radar guns manufacturers trying to somehow dance around Theia in a way that will be detrimental for us.
 

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The speculative major advantage. Remember that it doesn't actually exist yet.
I have enjoyed the videos about the development process
Correct. I forgot to mention that it would also result in longer detection range, but again, that's probably not enough to draw unwanted attention from our opponents.
 

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Since this is a kind of "catchall thread" I hope that Radenso will change the name of their new product before it is introduced to something that is:

1. Self pronouncing in the English language.

2. A word that is recognizable in English (to most people).

With "Theia" people will ask:

1. "What does that mean?"

2. "How do you pronounce it?"
 

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Anyone else besides me suffering from this ailment? Don’t take this the wrong way, I really do want one of these game changing devices. I just want Radenso to end the suffering by announcing a price and a release date.
You're complaining about Theia BUT VR has been AWOL for nearly a year?? Wow, just WOW!!
 

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So, I hear there's a new radar detector being developed called Theiea. What's that about?

;) j/k
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In seriousness, I took time to look around for information on this upcoming new detector. There's a ton of stuff, but you have to work so hard to get it.

Videos, videos are nice when they are planned and scripted. Meandering unfocused videos are a lot of work, and you can't skim them like text. Text, text is nice when it's planned and scripted. Meandering unfocused text is a lot of work to read.

What I wanted was the written equivalent of the elevator pitch.

What's the name (Theopholus is not a good one, btw ;) ), what does it detect, how long will the range be, what about falsing, front and rear, size, stealth, finally, what two things are super special about it. Done. Elevator doors open, informed potential customer walks off. ;)

Am thinking a bulleted list of seven short sentences.
 
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So, I hear there's a new radar detector being developed called Theiea. What's that about?

;) j/k
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In seriousness, I took time to look around for information on this upcoming new detector. There's a ton of stuff, but you have to work so hard to get it.

Videos, videos are nice when they are planned and scripted. Meandering unfocused videos are a lot of work, and you can't skim them like text. Text, text is nice when it's planned and scripted. Meandering unfocused text is a lot of work to read.

What I wanted was the written equivalent of the elevator pitch.

What's the name (Theopholus is not a good one, btw ;) ), what does it detect, how long will the range be, what about falsing, front and rear, size, stealth, finally, what two things are super special about it. Done. Elevator doors open, informed potential customer walks off. ;)

Am thinking a bulleted list of seven short sentences.
In short, it is a detector that applies machine-learning. This means that when Radenso feeds it with a lot of false BSM signals and with every available police radar gun signal in the world (and they tell detector which one is which, that's called supervised learning), detector will be able to identify signal when it sees one, even if there is no exact match. This results in zero false alerts, which allows Radenso to use super-sensitive hardware, which results in very high detection range. And yes, it's designed for international market and will be stealth to RDDs. For more technical info google "deep learning".
 

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Since this is a kind of "catchall thread" I hope that Radenso will change the name of their new product before it is introduced to something that is:

1. Self pronouncing in the English language.

2. A word that is recognizable in English (to most people).

With "Theia" people will ask:

1. "What does that mean?"

2. "How do you pronounce it?"
The largest radar detector company in the world has a name literally synonymous with "prostitute." We don't want a recognizable name as that sucks for SEO. To my point, google Escort and you won't get radar detectors. Once we make our Theia page go live we should have no problem ranking #1 on Google, which frankly is literally all that matters whether or not anyone can pronounce it.

Theia will be fine. Our traffic stats are outstanding for it already (searches outstripping Pro M results).
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In seriousness, I took time to look around for information on this upcoming new detector. There's a ton of stuff, but you have to work so hard to get it.


Am thinking a bulleted list of seven short sentences.
Like the FAQ stickied on the top of the forum?


Radenso Theia / Rai FAQ:

Q: When is it going to be released?
A: Answer as of 1/23/2020: Sometime in 2020. Theia is still under development so even we don't have a exact date or time frame yet. If you would like to signup to our Theia mailing list, click this link: https://radenso.com/products/radenso-theia

Q: How much will the Radenso Theia be?
A: Since we are still developing Theia hardware we don't know the price at this time.

Q: What is the difference between Radenso Theia and Rai?
A: Radenso Theia is the next windshield police radar detector coming from Radenso. Rai (Radenso AI) is the artificial intelligence software platform that will be used in the Radenso Theia.

Q: What hardware can you tell us Theia will have?
A: 1.5 GHz quad core processor, Spartan 7 FPGA, 1GB DDR3 RAM, 8GB flash storage, GPS 10hz chip, dual horn radar antenna to provide arrows, OLED display, headphone jack, bluetooth, wifi, USB-C connection, metal case

Q: Will I be able to use a RJ11 jack with Theia?
A: Unfortunately no, to power Theia a USB-C connection is required. RJ11 is a old outdated cable and cannot handle the power that Radenso Theia will need. A RJ11 adapter will not be possible because of this.

Q: Will Radenso Theia be immune to radar detector detectors such as Spectre Elite?
A: Since Radenso Theia hardware is still in development we are not 100% certain yet but of course that is what we want.

Q: Will Radenso release a hidden / remote radar detector with the Rai platform?
A: Absolutely but it will be awhile since we first we need to develop and release Radenso Theia (windshield detector).

Q: Will Radenso Theia running a operating system?
A: Yes! Radenso Theia will be running a Linux OS and we will have a open API for developers.

Q: Will Radenso Theia detect laser? What about ALP integration?
A: Yes, Radenso Theia will detect laser. We would love to have ALP integration, that is still something we are working on.

Q: What range will Radenso Theia have?
A: We believe it will have the highest range of any windshield and hidden/remote radar detector on the market but we can't provide exact data yet as Theia is still in development.
 
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The largest radar detector company in the world has a name literally synonymous with "prostitute." We don't want a recognizable name as that sucks for SEO. To my point, google Escort and you won't get radar detectors. Once we make our Theia page go live we should have no problem ranking #1 on Google, which frankly is literally all that matters whether or not anyone can pronounce it.

Theia will be fine. Our traffic stats are outstanding for it already (searches outstripping Pro M results).
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Like the FAQ stickied on the top of the forum?


Radenso Theia / Rai FAQ:

Q: When is it going to be released?
A: Answer as of 1/23/2020: Sometime in 2020. Theia is still under development so even we don't have a exact date or time frame yet. If you would like to signup to our Theia mailing list, click this link: https://radenso.com/products/radenso-theia

Q: How much will the Radenso Theia be?
A: Since we are still developing Theia hardware we don't know the price at this time.

Q: What is the difference between Radenso Theia and Rai?
A: Radenso Theia is the next windshield police radar detector coming from Radenso. Rai (Radenso AI) is the artificial intelligence software platform that will be used in the Radenso Theia.

Q: What hardware can you tell us Theia will have?
A: 1.5 GHz quad core processor, Spartan 7 FPGA, 1GB DDR3 RAM, 8GB flash storage, GPS 10hz chip, dual horn radar antenna to provide arrows, OLED display, headphone jack, bluetooth, wifi, USB-C connection, metal case

Q: Will I be able to use a RJ11 jack with Theia?
A: Unfortunately no, to power Theia a USB-C connection is required. RJ11 is a old outdated cable and cannot handle the power that Radenso Theia will need. A RJ11 adapter will not be possible because of this.

Q: Will Radenso Theia be immune to radar detector detectors such as Spectre Elite?
A: Since Radenso Theia hardware is still in development we are not 100% certain yet but of course that is what we want.

Q: Will Radenso release a hidden / remote radar detector with the Rai platform?
A: Absolutely but it will be awhile since we first we need to develop and release Radenso Theia (windshield detector).

Q: Will Radenso Theia running a operating system?
A: Yes! Radenso Theia will be running a Linux OS and we will have a open API for developers.

Q: Will Radenso Theia detect laser? What about ALP integration?
A: Yes, Radenso Theia will detect laser. We would love to have ALP integration, that is still something we are working on.

Q: What range will Radenso Theia have?
A: We believe it will have the highest range of any windshield and hidden/remote radar detector on the market but we can't provide exact data yet as Theia is still in development.
I just tested and you are 100% correct as always :)
 

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Looks good. Why did I think it was videos and meandering in there? Oh well, maybe I should look with both eyes next time. ;)
 

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