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I do not disagree with either of these statements, but I think we are getting ahead of ourselves and pre-classifying the current RD's as 'legacy'. In short a 'legacy' product is a product that is no longer sold, has lost substantial market share, or is a version of a product that is not current - none of which are true of today's current RD's. Any RD without K-band filtering these days is considered 'legacy'. Until Theia is a retail product for consumer purchase, and proven to be exactly what it say stay to be, technically we are not running legacy units. If/When Theia is released and takes over, then we can accurately reclassify the current line up of RD's. This is like an individual calling a caterpillar a butterfly - a caterpillar is not a butterfly - but given time it has the potential to become one - but calling a caterpillar a butterfly before then is not accurate.


Right there is the whole problem, most of that is not true in how Legacy is being used. You have taken the Webster’s definition or your own strict definition of “Legacy” and applied it to how we are NOT using it IE by saying Legacy we are not saying all other RDs are obsolete or no longer work, we are only putting them into the new category they find themselves in due to Theia.

Some companies actually specifically manufacture Legacy products, some companies bring back products that they than name Legacy so people “Know” it is newly manufactured and not one of the 30 year old originals!

I think Legacy started being used because it is a term Forum Members already use to describe older Lidar Guns yet without CMs one can still receive a ticket even from so-called Legacy Lidar Guns! And with the advent of Theia, are not ALL current Frequency Based RDs not lacking? I would say they are because ALL Frequency Based RDs false to both BSM and fixed K band sources unless one turns off K band detection. And we haven’t even touched on how Theia will create new standards in range and sensitive because again it will not be a “Legacy” frequency based radar detector.

Will Theia be for everybody, it will not. And the reasons why will be many. From cost, to size, to it is not a remote, to I don’t really speed, to I don’t drive enough, to I already have an RD, to probably 100 other reasons. But one thing will be sure, Theia will put all other Radar Detectors into a category that needs a name.

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I don’t understand why some are upset by this, I have current detectors that after Theia comes will be older used technology and I have no problem referring to them as legacy, I think it is a positive expression in some ways...
 

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I don’t understand why some are upset by this,
For most people, legacy is perfect adjective for all pre-Theia radar detectors.

The most recent, and only, quibble is Theia's capability has not been proven, yet. Perhaps there's a Technology Etiquette Rule which states, "I will use no adjective before its time."
 
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Right there is the whole problem, most of that is not true in how Legacy is being used. You have taken the Webster’s definition or your own strict definition of “Legacy” and applied it to how we are NOT using it IE by saying Legacy we are not saying all other RDs are obsolete or no longer work, we are only putting them into the new category they find themselves in due to Theia.

But one thing will be sure, Theia will put all other Radar Detectors into a category that needs a name.
I don’t understand why some are upset by this, I have current detectors that after Theia comes will be older used technology and I have no problem referring to them as legacy, I think it is a positive expression in some ways...
I'm not upset, just pointing out the fact that we are basically calling something 'dead' when it is still living (and on top) in front of us. Theia has not been released for purchase....yet. Until that day comes nothing currently on the market is technically 'legacy'. Once Theia is released for purchase, and validated, then feel free to call the 'old' RD's whatever name that is deemed appropriate. A lot of counting your chickens before your eggs are hatched with this is all.

Does anyone know if Radenso has a patten on this new AI learning system?
 

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I'm not upset, just pointing out the fact that we are basically calling something 'dead' when it is still living (and on top) in front of us. Theia has not been released for purchase....yet. Until that day comes nothing currently on the market is technically 'legacy'. Once Theia is released for purchase, and validated, then feel free to call the 'old' RD's whatever name that is deemed appropriate. A lot of counting your chickens before your eggs are hatched with this is all.

Does anyone know if Radenso has a patten on this new AI learning system?
Definitely appreciate your approach. This forum is dedicated to testing, documenting, and validating data yet we haven't been able to do that yet and people are jumping the gun by forgetting that Theia still has yet to be released and put through the paces.

Eventually we will be able to do that but that time has not yet arrived.
 

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For sure it needs to be fully tested and proven but based on everything Radenso is sharing and doing now, I like their chances...

fyi-check out the depth of investment time and energy they are doing in the video they released today 2/14/20, just trying to read the signature of a wrong way radar sign

 
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For sure it needs to be fully tested and proven but based on everything Radenso is sharing and doing now, I like their chances...
The recent tempest in a teapot about the adjective 'legacy' is pedantry run amuck, IMO.
 
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Right there is the whole problem, most of that is not true in how Legacy is being used. You have taken the Webster’s definition or your own strict definition of “Legacy” and applied it to how we are NOT using it
I agree with this assessment.

we are basically calling something 'dead'
No, we’re not.

The recent tempest in a teapot about the adjective 'legacy' is pedantry run amuck, IMO.
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Not sure if these have been answered somewhere already.

What can you tell us about how Theia will be rolled out ?

Will you have enough Units at launch to cover the projected pre order list ?
Will you be providing Beta units for RDF testers ?
Any discount, additional warranty, or gentlemen’s agreement for first adopters in case of a design oversight that needs to be corrected (heaven forbid! 😊)?
 

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What can you tell us about how Theia will be rolled out ?
We will have a pre-order before launch day release. We will make a announcement through our Theia mailing list, RDF and social media when we start accepting pre-orders.

Will you have enough Units at launch to cover the projected pre order list ?
Yup - That is the purpose of the Theia mailing list and accepting pre-orders.

Will you be providing Beta units for RDF testers ?
No, all beta testing is being done in house for security reasons.

Any discount, additional warranty, or gentlemen’s agreement for first adopters in case of a design oversight that needs to be corrected (heaven forbid! 😊)?
No
 
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