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Signed up and confirmed. I'm expecting delivery in 2 weeks......... ;-)

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Im so glad I didnt buy the R7... nothing with the legacy detectors was ever going to satisfy my desire for absolute silence until a real threat is detected. I get so friggin pissed off at the constant false alerts that i want to smash every detector I have bought with a damn sledgehammer. If you guys deliver this product exactly as you have described, you will be RD gods. Having worked on many hi tech military ECM systems I have a high level of expectation for my own ECM's in my cars. Your approach makes me wonder why Escort and other top names have failed to produce anything like this.
 

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“Your approach makes me wonder why Escort and other top names have failed to produce anything like this”

Up until Theia was announced for years people didn’t have any other choices and had to be content with current legacy RD’s. Thats was so innovative and refreshing with Radenso, they are building a better mouse trap...
 

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Your approach makes me wonder why Escort and other top names have failed to produce anything like this.

It comes down to many reasons: The first and biggest one in my opinion is COST! Just as Military ECM and ECCM is not cheap, this will be the most expensive WSM RD on the Market. Not because of demand, but because of hardware cost and design cost. Second I believe it is Will and Will alone! "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion." What I am saying is there is to much money to be made in a Niche Market by keeping the Status Quo and not enough will to spend the kind of money required to accomplish this until Radenso decided to have the WILL to do it. Third, some of this was requiring technology to become available and at a price that would make the RD marketable. The RF Section alone costs more than required to produce an R7. In other words, 20 years ago the only way to do this was with a device that would take up your passenger seat and it most likely would not have done it fast enough to make the Radar Only warning worth receiving. One of the huge technology issues was having components that would cover a broad enough bandwidth plus have the speed required to get the information to the DSP. We still can't go direct without mixing down to a IF that can be worked with. There is a chip that comes close, but purchased in lots of 1000 they go for $1795 each. Hard to build an RD that a Niche Market will buy when the very first required component costs $1795 before adding the rest of the BOM. Sure, we are not at direct sampling and signal identification yet, but Theia will be the next best thing while actually identifying Police Radar and also NOT have a $5000 price tag!
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This will make every other detector obsolete and not worth producing. ALP offers that kind of performance with LIDAR, now having that for RD's would be the perfect match.

I believe Theia will not make every other RD absolute. I believe it will make ALL other RDs legacy Frequency Based RDs! Just as people by $29 RDs at Walmart that are little more then "You're Getting a Ticket Warning Devices", legacy Frequency Based RDs will still be sold to the masses in droves. I believe this will actually still continue even after Theia technology trickles down to $400 Radenso RDs.

Sure people like us that need or have to have them see the value, most daily drivers will not.

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Just signed up. I was going to buy a Radenso Pro M but will wait for the Theia
 

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I'm all for Theia, however, the 'Legacy' term is getting tossed around a bit too freely right now IMO. The current top tier RD's are still great at what they do....and currently there is no other more advanced tech on the market to purchase. I have great confidence that Theia will be released at some point but until then, and until it is fully tested, I would caution people not to toss around the 'legacy' term too much. I have watched every video about it, from Vortex to Radenso, and it looks to be impressive. That said I run my 360 and it virtually filters out almost every BSM I run into - without AI (well, depends if you ask Escort, haha). Again, I am excited to see what the next step in RD's is going to look like...but for now....lets not get too ahead of ourselves. (I'm on the pre-order email list as well).
 

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I'm all for Theia, however, the 'Legacy' term is getting tossed around a bit too freely right now IMO.
There are huge expectations for Theia. IF it lives up to the hype, then the “legacy” term is fitting. What’s weird is I can see where the excitement over Theia will quickly go away if it works as designed because people will be nearly immediately acclimated to it.

“Why do you find Theia so boring?”
“Because it just works.”
 

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I'm all for Theia, however, the 'Legacy' term is getting tossed around a bit too freely right now IMO. The current top tier RD's are still great at what they do....and currently there is no other more advanced tech on the market to purchase. I have great confidence that Theia will be released at some point but until then, and until it is fully tested, I would caution people not to toss around the 'legacy' term too much. I have watched every video about it, from Vortex to Radenso, and it looks to be impressive. That said I run my 360 and it virtually filters out almost every BSM I run into - without AI (well, depends if you ask Escort, haha). Again, I am excited to see what the next step in RD's is going to look like...but for now....lets not get too ahead of ourselves. (I'm on the pre-order email list as well).
Not really! It’s either use Legacy or the longer Frequency Based Radar Detectors IE Theia is truly a New Class of Radar Detector since it is true Police Radar Signal based not alert to any frequency that falls within the same band as Police Radar. Huge difference.

And I also can’t agree that current Frequency Based RDs work well because they don’t. Yes they do provide an Alert (plus plenty of false alerts), but we have learned how to use them with their huge short comings plus they are currently our only choice.

That will no longer be the case after the release of Theia! As there will be Theia and then everything else with whatever label one wishes to hang on non-Theia RDs. Yes the non-Theia RDs will still work but as they always have, frequency based full of false alerts.

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I'm all for Theia, however, the 'Legacy' term is getting tossed around a bit too freely right now IMO. The current top tier RD's are still great at what they do....and currently there is no other more advanced tech on the market to purchase. I have great confidence that Theia will be released at some point but until then, and until it is fully tested, I would caution people not to toss around the 'legacy' term too much. I have watched every video about it, from Vortex to Radenso, and it looks to be impressive. That said I run my 360 and it virtually filters out almost every BSM I run into - without AI (well, depends if you ask Escort, haha). Again, I am excited to see what the next step in RD's is going to look like...but for now....lets not get too ahead of ourselves. (I'm on the pre-order email list as well).
Eh...….that's what they said when Whittle filed his first patent on the turbojet engine in 1930. History could have been much different had the Brits not been so conservative in their thinking. ;)

You recognize that Radenso is building the the first jet engine here.

Radar detection technology in the consumer market has been stagnant for the past 14 years...…..maybe 30 depending on how you look at it. All superhets with some form or other of digital processing (since 1990) but basically multi stage IF detectors at their core. Radenso's theia breaks the mold............finally. And likewise, it will shatter the old monopolies in the "high end" market who have spent a pittance on R&D over the past decades to adapt modern technology.

Ultimately the prop jobs...…..err........superhets will be relegated to the blister pack market. But not immediately as you say. Give it several years for the technology in theia to mature and the cost reduced versions will clean up the middle ground. The flagship being launched will spare no expense, but it's already apparent that they could adapt their blueprint to a lower cost model with a single horn configuration and less costly (but adequate) internals.

Of course, there is more good news in that they can (and will) go the other way as well. I think it's a no brainer that a remote system is in the roadmap and we'll probably see those electronically steered patch arrays when that arrives. Of course most of us won't be able to afford that one, but it will be there.:p
 

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Having a CDL with an X endorsement and relying on my license to make a living, I need the best I can get. Im mainly up against CHP and AZ DPS now now that Im no longer OTR moving campers anymore.
 

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I would have been flattered to get a speeding ticket in my tanker. Of course the ol Internationals were governed at 70 MPH and I could walk faster up a hill.:p

Seriously, I can't imagine where I could hide a detector in those trucks and certainly not something the size of theia. NYS DOT inspections were a frequent occurance in my area (pulled 3 times in 6 months). Note........I drove different trucks so had to bite the bullet every time.

I was seriously more concerned about getting dinged in an inspection as opposed to getting a speeding ticket.

Or are you talking about your personal vehicle?
 

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Don’t infractions in a personal vehicle impact your CDL? I know part of what he does is delivering RVs to their destination, towing them or driving them depending on the type, and he’s not always loaded.
 

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Had no issues with Gmail when the thread was first made. Just subscribed with Yahoo which had an issue and now it went through right away.
 

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Don’t infractions in a personal vehicle impact your CDL? I know part of what he does is delivering RVs to their destination, towing them or driving them depending on the type, and he’s not always loaded.
The fines are almost double when having a CDL compared to a normal Drivers License!
 

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The fines are almost double when having a CDL compared to a normal Drivers License!
State fines? Meaning, does that vary by state? And what about impacting the validity of your CDL? Meaning, can infractions in a personal vehicle cause your CDL to be suspended or revoked when a normal personal license wouldn’t be?

Does the DOT have anything to say about it?
 

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Don’t infractions in a personal vehicle impact your CDL? I know part of what he does is delivering RVs to their destination, towing them or driving them depending on the type, and he’s not always loaded.
Absolutely, a CDL is like any other license in that you accumulate enough points you lose it.

However, traffic violations in your personal vehicle do not impact your CSA score and carry no additional points. You do have to report any convictions within 30 days to your employer and of course this is a biggy for aquiring jobs and job security for CDL drivers.
 

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Absolutely, a CDL is like any other license in that you accumulate enough points you lose it.

However, traffic violations in your personal vehicle do not impact your CSA score and carry no additional points. You do have to report any convictions within 30 days to your employer and of course this is a biggy for aquiring jobs and job security for CDL drivers.
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There are huge expectations for Theia. IF it lives up to the hype, then the “legacy” term is fitting.
Not really! It’s either use Legacy or the longer Frequency Based Radar Detectors IE Theia is truly a New Class of Radar Detector since it is true Police Radar Signal based not alert to any frequency that falls within the same band as Police Radar. Huge difference.
I do not disagree with either of these statements, but I think we are getting ahead of ourselves and pre-classifying the current RD's as 'legacy'. In short a 'legacy' product is a product that is no longer sold, has lost substantial market share, or is a version of a product that is not current - none of which are true of today's current RD's. Any RD without K-band filtering these days is considered 'legacy'. Until Theia is a retail product for consumer purchase, and proven to be exactly what it say stay to be, technically we are not running legacy units. If/When Theia is released and takes over, then we can accurately reclassify the current line up of RD's. This is like an individual calling a caterpillar a butterfly - a caterpillar is not a butterfly - but given time it has the potential to become one - but calling a caterpillar a butterfly before then is not accurate.
 

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If we believe what the Radenso team has both claimed, and in some cases shown, i.e., we are not calling them liars, then all current RDs are legacy, they just do not know it yet...technically, of course.:)

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I think the other RD manufacturers do know they are legacy and, even now, are preparing FUD campaigns, e.g., here's why it won't work, it's unproven technology, it will be unreliable, it won't alert on all radar guns, etc.
 
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