Red Light camera ticket in Miami-Dade County

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Hello Gents.
A good friend was ticketed for allegedly running a red light on US1 (Pinecrest side). The ticket they sent contains an image of the rear of the car, but no proof as to who was driving the vehicle. Is the burden of proof still on the county side of things? Meaning, can they make this nonsense go away by requesting proof of who the driver was? It's been a while since I've looked into this, would love to hear your thoughts on a platform I trust, while I conduct more research in parallel.

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if I recall correctly the redlight ticket is a fine only and is sent to the registered owner of the vehicle, it doesn't carry points as there is no way to prove who was driving. I think the registered owner is still on the hook to pay the fine even if they weren't driving it as they should know who was. Now there are various ways to beat redlight tickets, depending on cost and effort it may not be a big deal to pay it and then not run redlights.
 

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@thebravo is correct that the citation goes to the registered owner. Typical red light infraction is $256, and depends on how many "riders" Miami-Dade County add on:

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$256 is extremely steep for a camera ticket. I would say unreasonably so, considering there is no proof that the owner was driving the vehicle.
 

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$256 is extremely steep for a camera ticket. I would say unreasonably so, considering there is no proof that the owner was driving the vehicle.
It’s $384.00 where I am.

They don’t care who’s driving and there’s no points. It’s not much different than a parking ticket. Just really expensive.

Your car, your plates, your responsibility. If you lent it to someone, it’s up to you to go collect.

If that’s a problem, don’t lend your car to anyone.
 

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Hmm, and i'd be pissed at the local $65 Red Light camera fines...
 

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Sorry to hear about your friend. I pass several of those lights on US1 everyday.

good reminder to resist the temptation to go when I come across those “stale” green lights. Waze is always running and I getting a warning about them every time too.
 

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I think ours is $50, its been a while and I hated to see that in the mail. $256, forget about it.
 

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Hello everyone, thank you for your input. Looks like there is no recourse then, correct?
 

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Unfortunately not usually in regards to an infraction issued by camera.
 

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Unfortunately not usually in regards to an infraction issued by camera.
Quite right.

My daughter just went to fight one.

Icy intersection.
3/10’s second in the intersection
Going 47 km/h in a 60 zone.

The judge couldn’t believe why they would ticket someone for 3/10ths but couldn’t dismiss the ticket.

Even though it was icy, you have to drive to the road conditions.

She was the only one to get a break out of 70 people in front of her.

The judge reduced it from 380 to 230 and gave her an extra 3 months to pay it.
 

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Quite right.

My daughter just went to fight one.

Icy intersection.
3/10’s second in the intersection
Going 47 km/h in a 60 zone.

The judge couldn’t believe why they would ticket someone for 3/10ths but couldn’t dismiss the ticket.

Even though it was icy, you have to drive to the road conditions.

She was the only one to get a break out of 70 people in front of her.

The judge reduced it from 380 to 230 and gave her an extra 3 months to pay it.
So ridiculous. So according to the government she should have stomped on the brakes, still slide past the line and jam up crossing traffic once they get the green, and/or get rear ended cuz the person behind can't stop or isnt paying attention
 

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So ridiculous. So according to the government she should have stomped on the brakes, still slide past the line and jam up crossing traffic once they get the green, and/or get rear ended cuz the person behind can't stop or isnt paying attention
Sort of.

We have yellows on all of our lights. There’s also the countdown timer on the walk/don’t walk that helps. They usually give you a 20 second countdown you can see before the light turns from green to yellow. Not all of them do that, but a fairly large amount of them do.

As for the part of getting rear ended.... although it’s a PIA and time consuming, the person that hits you are at fault for following too close, driving with undue care and attention, or careless driving due to road conditions.

Pretty hard to prove that your not at fault if you hit someone from the back end. Dash cam would help if the person in front didn’t have working brake lights. Hard to prove that after the accident.

Personally I don’t mind the RLC’s. I ride and see some stupid things that people do in intersections. I don’t get a 2nd chance on my bikes, so if they’re in the wrong.... I hope they get the message in a fine before I end up being a hood ornament.
 

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Sort of.

We have yellows on all of our lights. There’s also the countdown timer on the walk/don’t walk that helps. They usually give you a 20 second countdown you can see before the light turns from green to yellow. Not all of them do that, but a fairly large amount of them do.

As for the part of getting rear ended.... although it’s a PIA and time consuming, the person that hits you are at fault for following too close, driving with undue care and attention, or careless driving due to road conditions.

Pretty hard to prove that your not at fault if you hit someone from the back end. Dash cam would help if the person in front didn’t have working brake lights. Hard to prove that after the accident.

Personally I don’t mind the RLC’s. I ride and see some stupid things that people do in intersections. I don’t get a 2nd chance on my bikes, so if they’re in the wrong.... I hope they get the message in a fine before I end up being a hood ornament.
I seen someone last week, straight up ran the red, turned red before they got to it. Cop was the 1st car on the cross intersection. I pointed at the car, got to watch the moron get stopped

But when the roads are snowy or icy, you cant stop. The safe speed to stop instantly if you have to would be maybe 5 mph. Yeah, you have to slow down and leave more space but say its a 35 and everyone is going 25 spaced out. When one car slams on the brakes anti locks come on and everyone tries to stop and not hit, if the 1st car would just go through on YELLOW, everyone else could actually stop without sliding and hitting someone

Icouple weeks ago, road was so icy and had a very slight grade down. I crawled up to it barely moving, brake all the way down, road was super bumpy, poor plowing job or lack of from last snow. Wheels were stopped, i could have put it in park and it would have slid down from the bumps and glare ice.
 

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