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LouG

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If this has happened to 6 out of ten V1's (5 ESP and 5 pre ESP) I can almost guarantee it is not the V1's.
One of VR's strengths is near bulletproof reliability, a 60% failure rate is unheard of, especially since version 3.872.
Do a factory reset on alI, but I suspect this is a vehicle issue. How about posting photos of the mounting positions of each car. Telling us makes and models would be interesting too.
I'd also suggest borrowing another detector brand to see if it's affected.
Or, you could just flag the V1's, and change brands.
BTW. It is really helpful to give us all the relevant info the first time, it will avoid credibility problems.
 

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If this has happened to 6 out of ten V1's (5 ESP and 5 pre ESP) I can almost guarantee it is not the V1's.
One of VR's strengths is near bulletproof reliability, a 60% failure rate is unheard of, especially since version 3.872.
Do a factory reset on alI, but I suspect this is a vehicle issue. How about posting photos of the mounting positions of each car. Telling us makes and models would be interesting too.
I'd also suggest borrowing another detector brand to see if it's affected.
Or, you could just flag the V1's, and change brands.
BTW. It is really helpful to give us all the relevant info the first time, it will avoid credibility problems.
Not sure what other information you are missing that can improve my credibility. I thought I was pretty clear in my first post and followups.

There is no way to tell what was wrong with the pre ESP versions because they were replaced through the upgrade program. Regardless, they were in different vehicles back then compared to what I have now. They are all different makes and models (Land Rover, BMW, Mercedes, GMC) making the vehicle as a contributor not very likely. Mounting is pretty standard - suction cup to the windscreen up high near the mirror. The other two that are working are in a Mercedes and BMW very similar to the ones that aren't working. The trouble is they were all working at some point and then stopped at some time. All five of my detectors are programmed exactly the same way; X off, rear K off, higher Ka sensitivity, stay muted at 4 lights and all are 3.8952.

I guess it is all moot now. While meeting up with SquirrelMaster and his Ka radar gun, I factory reset them and confirmed they are all now working correctly. They have been reprogrammed as above and if they act up again, I will report back.

Thank you all for your comments and especially SquirrelMaster for his time and equipment.
Greg
 

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Not breaking balls, but what was the first thing a bunch of us said, oh yeah, Factory Reset. Yes I know you. didn't have a Ka Gun, but that s always the first place to start.

Hey Gregorio, did SM show you JBV1? If yes, what did you think?

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Not breaking balls, but what was the first thing a bunch of us said, oh yeah, Factory Reset. Yes I know you. didn't have a Ka Gun, but that s always the first place to start.

Hey Gregorio, did SM show you JBV1? If yes, what did you think?

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Oh I don't mind. I expected some ball breaking. The key was having access to the gun to confirm that resetting was the solution and I am very glad it was. Saved me the trouble of buying 3 new detectors ($$$) and all it cost me was lunch and a bottle of Cabernet. Plus, I met a really cool guy to boot! I've heard about the JBV1 and if it is as good as they say, I might consider picking up an old Android phone to use on road trips. I'm a lazy IOS guy.
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It just took an extra set of eyes and some magic but they're all tested working now on Ka band.

Poor guy was stuck in front of my Mazda so we had lidar tested as well during the whole drive! πŸ˜†
Yeah, nothing at all wrong with the rear LIDAR sensor. That car of yours lit up my V1 like a Christmas tree the whole time you were behind me. I thought you had some active jammer turned on.
 

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It just took an extra set of eyes and some magic but they're all tested working now on Ka band.

Poor guy was stuck in front of my Mazda so we had lidar tested as well during the whole drive! πŸ˜†
@SquirrelMaster - thanks for your time and effort to help a new member out! That is definitely something that lets new members know what a great place RDF is and how helpful its members are! Great job! :)
 

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Good to see it's sorted. For future reference, a factory reset is always the first and easiest thing to do.
 

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They are all different makes and models (Land Rover, BMW, Mercedes, GMC) making the vehicle as a contributor not very likely.
Many Land Rovers have metallic windshields that block radar. Does yours appear to have a purple tint when viewed from outside in sunlight?

I guess it is all moot now. While meeting up with SquirrelMaster and his Ka radar gun, I factory reset them and confirmed they are all now working correctly. They have been reprogrammed as above and if they act up again, I will report back.
I'm glad everything is working correctly! Were you able to test with the Ka band gun before factory resetting to verify there was an issue? I can't imagine what setting could have caused the detector to not alert to front Ka band. If it happens again, please take a video scrolling through the options in programming mode (or with the app via BT dongle)!
 

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Many Land Rovers have metallic windshields that block radar. Does yours appear to have a purple tint when viewed from outside in sunlight?


I'm glad everything is working correctly! Were you able to test with the Ka band gun before factory resetting to verify there was an issue? I can't imagine what setting could have caused the detector to not alert to front Ka band. If it happens again, please take a video scrolling through the options in programming mode (or with the app via BT dongle)!
Is anyone using athermic glass anymore? Not in any of my cars including a 2018 GLE 43 and 2019 S550 Mercedes. My 2016 LR4 does not have the electric windscreen defogger option either but my previous model did. There were never any problems in that vehicle. However, because all of these were working for quite some time in these vehicles, were programmed once when first received (I am very familiar with V1 programming, BTW) and then suddenly stopped, I can safely and emphatically say the vehicle and the programming are not the problem.

The malfunction was on K and Ka - no one using X out here and I have it disabled anyway. I was in front of a fixed radar (K band) sign with one of the malfunctioning units in my Rover. I reset it and it started working immediately. Once I confirmed this one was working with the Ka gun I got excited knowing I was not going to spend $2000 and reset the other two prior to doing a "before" test with the gun.
 

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Is anyone using athermic glass anymore? Not in any of my cars including a 2018 GLE 43 and 2019 S550 Mercedes. My 2016 LR4 does not have the electric windscreen defogger option either but my previous model did. There were never any problems in that vehicle.
The reason I asked was because Land Rovers are one of the vehicles that always pop up on the list requiring special positioning of EZ Pass transponders and the like. For example:
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However, because all of these were working for quite some time in these vehicles, were programmed once when first received (I am very familiar with V1 programming, BTW) and then suddenly stopped, I can safely and emphatically say the vehicle and the programming are not the problem.
That's why we're confused, because problems like you described with the V1 are almost always caused by external factors. I don't think I've ever seen a case where something went wrong with the detector to disable the front antenna, and it's even stranger that it was solved by resetting to factory defaults if it wasn't a programming issue.

Please let us know if you encounter the issue again, I'd be really interested to figure out what is causing it.
 

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Agreed with InsipidMonkey about the strangeness of a factory reset fixing this issue. @SquirrelMaster, since you are an established member that knows the kind of questions RDF comes up with;
Did you experience a failed Ka alert, see the V1 reset and then experience a successful alert in any of these units? It would be interesting to know of a unbroken controlled process such as that.

In 21 years, I've never had my V1s fail to alert from the front. (Or at all :))

I have spoken in the past of detectors measuring a noise-floor as they boot up and using that as the threshhold of whether an additional signal is present or not. Perhaps this is a result of some frequently present signal as the cars start. You wouldn't think that this behavior (if it had that much of an effect) would persist through a boot up sequence in a different car or location.
 
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FWIW, even when my V1 got cooked several years ago, it would still alert on Ka. Possibly with less range, because I had some marginal warning distances. But that is hard to be sure of in our driving environment.
 

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I'm glad he got them working because I don't think they have anything to trade up to or do the normal upgrade to a new unit right now. (unless this recently changed)
 

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Oh, I agree 100% that this is very strange.
I'm glad he got them working because I don't think they have anything to trade up to or do the normal upgrade to a new unit right now. (unless this recently changed)
Right. Called again today (I call every week or two because I have two more pre-ESP that need to be updated) and they are still waiting for parts.
 

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Oh, I agree 100% that this is very strange.

Right. Called again today (I call every week or two because I have two more pre-ESP that need to be updated) and they are still waiting for parts.
According to what they told Vortex last week, they have the parts.........they just don't know if they are any good yet. :laugh:


It will be interesting to see what the cost difference is between "upgrading" vs buying a new detector as I would be fairly certain only the power cord and windshield mount might (might) be carried forward into the new unit.
 

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Hi.
Im in New Zealand and having the same issue and another friend of mine is also having the same problem. We both drive differenttour busses.
Pretty weird how we both started complaining about it about 2 week's ago around the same time as this post started.
Anyhow I'll factory reset mine and get my friend to do the same.
Thanks for everyone helping out OP and efficiently myself aswell
 

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I need to followup on an earlier post. I complained about my V1 not picking up KA on front antenna, while KA was perfectly fine on the rear antenna, and K was fine on both front and rear. Last night my V1 suddenly started acting like it was brand new again, I picked up KA on the front horn from a Texas DPS trooper from about a mile away on Highway 96 in Kirbyville, Texas. This is very strange.
 
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