Driving with no number plates

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Hey everyone I hope you’re all having a good day, I don’t know where to post this thread and if a mod feels like this is not a good place for a thread like this feel free to move it. I was wondering what is the fine of driving with no number plates in different states of the US, does the fine differe from state to state or is it all the same and what’s the cost of the fine? Feel free to share :)
Where I’m from (outside US) they charge the person with approximately $817 with 23 points (24 points to lose your license here) to the license and 90 days impound (extra $1,633 if the person wants to pay instead of letting the police impound the car), so a total of $2450.
 

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Are you weighing that option? Lol
 

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Are you weighing that option? Lol
Lol well not really, it was just out of curiosity I wanted to know if someone did that was would he get in terms of violation charges.
 

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As with most things, it’s different from state to state, but it’s universally frowned upon heavily and will undoubtedly result in a roadside chat.
 

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Personally, I hate running with a front plate. I do keep it in the car under the floor mat though.... Not sure if I could talk my way out of a ticket......
 

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In WI, the only exception is within 48 hours of purchasing a car. I believe that's true in many other states as well. As far as not running a front plate, they usually give warnings here but it's generally not worth running without one as it will give them an excuse to pull you over.
 

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The dealer doesn’t issue numbered temporary (paper) tags before you drive off the lot? I assumed that was universal.
The 48 hour exemption is probably to account for private sales.

Last truck I bought, I picked up from a private party in Illinois for $2500 and with no plates, proceeded to blow through the tolls all the way back while happily giving them the 1 finger salute.
 

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Don't need front plates in Delaware.
Not sure what the penalty is for running without a rear plate, but people here would be more likely to counterfeit a temporary tag I'd imagine. I saw one the other day written on white paper with a sharpie.
 

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When I got my kid’s car, the doggo decided to rip off the temporary plate. I think she got stopped twice in the first 24 hours it was gone.
 

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When I got my kid’s car, the doggo decided to rip off the temporary plate. I think she got stopped twice in the first 24 hours it was gone.
Damn that’s one of the most unluckiest situations I’ve ever heard
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As with most things, it’s different from state to state, but it’s universally frowned upon heavily and will undoubtedly result in a roadside chat.
Do you have a clue on how much would the ticket cost if someone gets caught?
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In WI, the only exception is within 48 hours of purchasing a car. I believe that's true in many other states as well.
I think we have the same law but 24 hrs exception.

As far as not running a front plate, they usually give warnings here but it's generally not worth running without one as it will give them an excuse to pull you over.
We have speed cameras everywhere and some of them are fitted with a live-time camera so if you drove past it you’re bound to get stopped and you would get the same charge as running with no plates which sucks
 
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In Utah, a front plate is legally required, but it is a secondary offense. That means that it alone isn't a primary reason to stop someone, they'd have to pair it with another secondary offense in order to stop you, or have a different primary offense to stop you for first.

I've run with no front plate on the last 9 cars I've owned... and never been stopped for it. When stopped, I've never even had them mention it to me. Since we don't have any traffic enforcement cameras here, it isn't really of much benefit to law enforcement to actually enforce it at all, nor worthy of their time to do so, in my opinion. When 50% of the drivers I see passing me are using their mobile phones as they drive -- it really makes you realize that there are better things for the police to enforce such as distracted driving, then trying to ensure you have your property tax identifier visible on the front of your vehicle.

The only time I have ever known or heard of anyone getting hassled over no front plate was 15 years ago. I had a friend who would drive without wearing his seatbelt. At that time, a seatbelt violation was a secondary offense (now it has since been elevated to a primary offense). The officer used these two secondary offenses together to become probable cause to stop my friend. The officer wrote him up for a seat belt ticket, then gave him a verbal warning about the front plate, but no citation for the front plate.
 

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I’m in NYC and had a front plate mount that was under the car. This ended up getting ripped off. I found the plate and haven’t mounted it yet. It’s still in my trunk on the broken mount. Figured that might be good enough to let me slide. If not, I think it’s $200 + fees and no points.

My wife got a parking ticket and the meter maid wrote her for not front plate. She had one so we just took pictures and sent them in. Ticket was dismissed.


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In Utah, a front plate is legally required, but it is a secondary offense. That means that it alone isn't a primary reason to stop someone, they'd have to pair it with another secondary offense in order to stop you, or have a different primary offense to stop you for first.

I've run with no front plate on the last 9 cars I've owned... and never been stopped for it. When stopped, I've never even had them mention it to me. Since we don't have any traffic enforcement cameras here, it isn't really of much benefit to law enforcement to actually enforce it at all, nor worthy of their time to do so, in my opinion. When 50% of the drivers I see passing me are using their mobile phones as they drive -- it really makes you realize that there are better things for the police to enforce such as distracted driving, then trying to ensure you have your property tax identifier visible on the front of your vehicle.

The only time I have ever known or heard of anyone getting hassled over no front plate was 15 years ago. I had a friend who would drive without wearing his seatbelt. At that time, a seatbelt violation was a secondary offense (now it has since been elevated to a primary offense). The officer used these two secondary offenses together to become probable cause to stop my friend. The officer wrote him up for a seat belt ticket, then gave him a verbal warning about the front plate, but no citation for the front plate.
Utah sounds like an awesome state for that, I never knew there’s something called secondary offense. LEO here a very lazy the cameras basically do everything for them and there’s barley if not any cop cars on the highway, they even have cameras on top of their cars to check every car they pass by, it really sucks lol you basically cant do anything on highways here, is secondary offenses laws in all US states or just a couple of states?
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I’m in NYC and had a front plate mount that was under the car. This ended up getting ripped off. I found the plate and haven’t mounted it yet. It’s still in my trunk on the broken mount. Figured that might be good enough to let me slide. If not, I think it’s $200 + fees and no points.


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$200 with no points actually sounds like a reasonable ticket.

My wife got a parking ticket and the meter maid wrote her for not front plate. She had one so we just took pictures and sent them in. Ticket was dismissed.
WTH, Meter maids can write those kinds of tickets?!
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No front plate isn’t the same as no plates at all.
Well, if someone drove a car with no front plates here they would get the same ticket as no plates for some reason lol
 
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I like the way the thread creator thinks. This is good. Weighing up the law on points vs fine ect helps know where you stand when doing something.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time so to speak.
I think running with no plate is a lesser offence than running a detector where I am. That said, you'll probably get away with a detector more often than getting away with no plate. What's the excuse for no plate though? It fell off haha!
What's the excuse for running a detector where it's illegal? That's a tough answer and might be best spoken through a lawyers mouth.
Ive always been on the side of plate covers over detectors. I don't run either but the plate cover is cheaper and more reliable where I am than a high priced detector (at this point in time).
Definitely search around for plate covers. You want to be seen with a plate with the naked eye, but not show the plate to a camera. Whether these devices are full proof and reliable though is for you to decide and research.
 

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I like the way the thread creator thinks. This is good. Weighing up the law on points vs fine ect helps know where you stand when doing something.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time so to speak.
I think running with no plate is a lesser offence than running a detector where I am. That said, you'll probably get away with a detector more often than getting away with no plate. What's the excuse for no plate though? It fell off haha!
What's the excuse for running a detector where it's illegal? That's a tough answer and might be best spoken through a lawyers mouth.
Ive always been on the side of plate covers over detectors. I don't run either but the plate cover is cheaper and more reliable where I am than a high priced detector (at this point in time).
Definitely search around for plate covers. You want to be seen with a plate with the naked eye, but not show the plate to a camera. Whether these devices are full proof and reliable though is for you to decide and research.
It’s really just out of curiosity lol. Plate covers are also illegal if an LEO somehow saw that there’s something that covers up the plate. There is also something that flips and moves the plate forward. Most of the speed cameras that we have here are only able to take pictures of the front plate.

If you have some time you can look at this video, it’s basically a device that moves the plate forward:
I don’t even know what ticket would that person get if he gets caught
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Ive always been on the side of plate covers over detectors. I don't run either but the plate cover is cheaper and more reliable where I am than a high priced detector (at this point in time).
Definitely search around for plate covers. You want to be seen with a plate with the naked eye, but not show the plate to a camera. Whether these devices are full proof and reliable though is for you to decide and research.
Have you ever encountered anyone with a plate cover? Or do you know someone that has some installed on his car? I feel like the offense of installing some would be way more worse than driving with no plates where I’m from and it would be so noticeable since our plates only have a black frame and we’re not allowed to put anything other than that
 
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Ohio, YES you read correctly OHIO is considering dropping the front plate requirement. Of course the police are against the idea. Why, the best reason I’ve read is they can charge the same amount of money and make 1/2 the number of plates.
If the proposal passes, I’ll have to find something unique to put on the front brackets. Have to see who wins the battle.
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Why, the best reason I’ve read is they can charge the same amount of money and make 1/2 the number of plates.
I’m all for it. Dropping the front plate requirement would be awesome. All the toll booths and such take pics of the rear plate anyway, probably because rear plate are universally required but not all states require fronts.
 

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Ohio, YES you read correctly OHIO is considering dropping the front plate requirement. Of course the police are against the idea. Why, the best reason I’ve read is they can charge the same amount of money and make 1/2 the number of plates.
If the proposal passes, I’ll have to find something unique to put on the front brackets. Have to see who wins the battle.
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Thats awesome! I hope it passes and I also hope someday they can make that universal.
 

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