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So...I like quirky detectors. I wanted this since the minute I saw it. I've had a V1 since 2012 and...idk. I'm just bored with it. I've never updated it. I did get the little Bluetooth dongle thing and app but it was so cumbersome I stopped using it. At any rate, I took advantage of the $50 off and bought this last Sunday. I've driven 2 days with it. On the highway, it's a nice quiet detector. I had one impressive Ka encounter off axis with a Texas DPS that really shook me. I thought the unit was falsing but there he came across the wooded intersection I was approaching.

Today I drove into the city....Ummmm....yeah. I don't know if I have learned to tune out my V1 or what but this thing seemed waaay more chatty on automatic doors and vehicle systems. I have a 9200 I bought on sale as a backup and I don't recall it being this hyper. If anyone can aim me to what I need to turn off in iRadar...I would appreciate it. I already have TSR off. But all K and Ka on. I had one Ka false on an Acura but lots of K popping up in urban commercial heavy traffic. At any rate, if I can get that ironed out and get the unit properly mounted, it'll be a keeper. I do want a dash cam but don't want to clutter up my car. If this has comparable range to my V1, which was always sufficient, I'm fine with that. If not, I can always get the Dual Pro and add-on camera.
 

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Suggest leaving TSR filtering on. Does this have cruise alert feature? Set it between 30-50mph, your choice. That helps. If it has AutoNoX setting or ability to knock out X band do that. Not sure what ER features ended up in this model.
 

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Sorry, meant to say I have TSR on, not off. X is off. It is set to mute at 20 and below. Another question, do the iRadar programmed settings revert to stock when iRadar is not on? Maybe a stupid question.

One observation from my drive, there's a highway intersection that has a strong K source of some sort on my daily drive, that I suspect is some sort of drone. It's not a redlight camera. At any rate, Both my V1 (not updated and purchased in mid 2012) and my backup Cobra 9200BT alert at almost the exact same spot at least a half mile away from this intersection, as soon as it becomes line of sight. This new Road Scout does not alert to K until I am maybe 4-5 car lengths from the intersection.

Other complaint...the lack of adjustability on the EZ Mag mount. It seems no matter where I place the thing, the detector is always a little off level and there's no way to lift/drop a side.
 

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Settings made in the app are applied to the detector immediately and are not dependent on the app being open.

Auto mode progressively changes sensitivity of X and K radar based on your speed. The slower you travel, the lower the sensitivity (detection range). At about 55 mph it is detecting X and K at maximum range. Ka sensitity is not affected, it is always at maximum. I use Auto mode exclusively and notice hardly any false alerts.

Road Scout does not have AutoLearn but you can store stationary false alerts by pressing a MUTE button 3X. The radar signal will then display in grey but not alert audibly.

You can store X false alerts so you may want to turn X on.

Road Scout has more advanced filtering than the DSP9200BT. That source may be a modulated signal that Road Scout is trying to reject. Also be aware that testing detector's side by side causes interference which affects performance. You should operate detectors one at a time.

Don't forget to update with the latest firmware. Thanks to its robust processor, updating Road Scout takes seconds.
 

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Settings made in the app are applied to the detector immediately and are not dependent on the app being open.

Auto mode progressively changes sensitivity of X and K radar based on your speed. The slower you travel, the lower the sensitivity (detection range). At about 55 mph it is detecting X and K at maximum range. Ka sensitity is not affected, it is always at maximum. I use Auto mode exclusively and notice hardly any false alerts.

Road Scout does not have AutoLearn but you can store stationary false alerts by pressing a MUTE button 3X. The radar signal will then display in grey but not alert audibly.

You can store X false alerts so you may want to turn X on.

Road Scout has more advanced filtering than the DSP9200BT. That source may be a modulated signal that Road Scout is trying to reject. Also be aware that testing detector's side by side causes interference which affects performance. You should operate detectors one at a time.

Don't forget to update with the latest firmware. Thanks to its robust processor, updating Road Scout takes seconds.
Yeah I always have X off. What would be the advantage of storing those false alerts???

Maybe I'll switch to Auto. 99% of what I see is Ka and the only "real" K I see is pretty much at interstate speeds anyway.

Thanks for the insight on the K source. I didn't mean to imply I was testing side by side. I DO know that can cause issues. I just sometimes in the past took down the V1 and put up the DSP9200BT for the sake of comparison and b/c I like the alert tones better. I just know from past experience that my DSP9200BT and my V1 both alert to this K source the second I top a hill that puts it in visual range. Are you implying you think it's some sort of MCRD/T? What's weird is the Road Scout completely filters out a lower powered K band "Your speed is" sign that is just down the road from this intersection. But whatever this signal is would light up any previous detector like Christmas.

I'm glad you brought up the quickness of the update. I was worried it just updated the defender database because it literally lasted a few seconds. A firmware update is THAT quick???
 

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Yeah I always have X off. What would be the advantage of storing those false alerts???

Maybe I'll switch to Auto. 99% of what I see is Ka and the only "real" K I see is pretty much at interstate speeds anyway.

Thanks for the insight on the K source. I didn't mean to imply I was testing side by side. I DO know that can cause issues. I just sometimes in the past took down the V1 and put up the DSP9200BT for the sake of comparison and b/c I like the alert tones better. I just know from past experience that my DSP9200BT and my V1 both alert to this K source the second I top a hill that puts it in visual range. Are you implying you think it's some sort of MCRD/T? What's weird is the Road Scout completely filters out a lower powered K band "Your speed is" sign that is just down the road from this intersection. But whatever this signal is would light up any previous detector like Christmas.

I'm glad you brought up the quickness of the update. I was worried it just updated the defender database because it literally lasted a few seconds. A firmware update is THAT quick???
Although I do not use this platform yet, I believe the advice given is sound. I may differ on the X advice. IF you know for sure that X is not around your drive routes turn it off. However, he does make a point about leaving it on and locking out the false locations. IF you drive to nearby state or area that uses X band, you might forget to turn it back on. I have done that with competing brand detectors that do not show it is off (and does not remind me with the display X is off). Next door Ohio runs X band occasionally. My Escort and Bel Max series do show this when I leave X off using the “autoNoX“ setting. Does the Cobra Road Scout platform have a setting like that? If so, easy to be reminded as needed.

”Your speed is” signs: Assuming the Cobra Road Scout has some roots of the Max series, what you see does not surprise me. Most/many of those speed signs are filtered out (but real radar on all bands still work fine). One of the many little life savers for me. I get annoyed by other detectors going off at this false alert or non LEO radar like this. Especially when on conference call, or have a engineer with me on the way to a client. This good trait is not 100%. Some “speed signs” are using old LEO or newer LEO based platforms which look to the detector as real radar (unless locked out by the lockout database) will alert.

finally, I run Auto mode (or NoX version) just about 24/7. It really does a good job of managing the various methods of BSM and fixed false locations attempting to get through. I find using Auto helps keep the Max platforms quiet while still getting good range for K band. Around here it is the opposite, K band is becoming more in use by local LEO. Less so on the highway. Auto provides good range in town for what is needed.

I will be interested in hearing more reports on the Road Scout. I like the quirky look, and especially built in dash cam Feature. Too bad Escort does not build in a front and rear cam built into their 360c product (and keep a smaller 360c form factor). Maybe some day. :)


Hope this helps
 

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Hah, yeah, the thing is quite large. It's hard to find an inconspicuous place to mount it. I'm almost tempted to swap it for a Dual Pro 360. Regarding X, yeah, I have never ever seen X in all my daily commutes in the 13 years or so since I started running reliable detectors (first modern good one was a Bel v965 S7 horn).

Yeah, I guess I just don't trust quiet detectors that still give the occasional blurp when your close to the source. It just makes me think they aren't working well, lol. It will take some getting used to. Rationally, I should have bought an R7 but I having been impressed with the 9200 I picked up (on Woot!), I figured the Road Scout would be decently capable. Like I said, I may still sneak in a Dual Pro just to see what the Escort/Bel/Cobra take on arrows is.
 
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Hey if you are able can you post some videos of it in action? Would be curious to see...
I was about to say that would be complicated but then...I remembered.... :)
 

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Hah, yeah, the thing is quite large. It's hard to find an inconspicuous place to mount it. I'm almost tempted to swap it for a Dual Pro 360. Regarding X, yeah, I have never ever seen X in all my daily commutes in the 13 years or so since I started running reliable detectors (first modern good one was a Bel v965 S7 horn).

Yeah, I guess I just don't trust quiet detectors that still give the occasional blurry when your close to the source. It just makes me think they aren't working well, lol. It will take some getting used to. Rationally, I should have bought an R7 but I having been impressed with the 9200 I picked up (on Woot!), I figured the Road Scout would be decently capable. I may still sneak in a Dual Pro just to see what the Escort/Bel/Cobra take on arrows is.
Ok, let’s assume the Dual Pro is the same as the former Bel GT360... It should be. I love mine. Taking the WiFi connection of the 360c aside, GT360 is my fav 360 platform. I like its slight different sized case, and the discrete but easy to read arrows. Also, I swear it has the best range and BSM filtering of my 360 platforms. I have never upgraded its firmware. 1.0 works most great. No laser falses, no bad habits of any kind. I have the companion M1 dash cam.

also, my R7, sticky mount is same/close enough copy to use the M1 dash cam with it, works great, I have a picture of it Posted several places. R7 can be a range beast, however, based in some of your comments, and if you want arrows, you should be happy with DP or any of the 360 platforms. Better watch out... You fo buy the DP, keep the RS, aand then one day the R7 goes on sale... you end up with three. :)
 

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It was time for some new toys. 7 year old V1? But it's always saved me. And wifey has a similar vintage Bel GX-65 that she's coped with. We traded in her old installed Escort w her previous car. But despite having a Civic Si, Mustang GT and a VW GTI in this timeframe, I have had zero tickets... But the R7 WAS on sale last week. I've just fixated on this Road Scout for some reason. I do like having iRadar and Waze running simultaneously. That gives me some extra comfort.
 

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It was time for some new toys. 7 year old V1? But it's always saved me. And wifey has a similar vintage Bel GX-65 that she's coped with. We traded in her old installed Escort w her previous car. But despite having a Civic Si, Mustang GT and a VW GTI in this timeframe, I have had zero tickets... But the R7 WAS on sale last week. I've just fixated on this Road Scout for some reason. I do like having iRadar and Waze running simultaneously. That gives me some extra comfort.
Yea, I run both EL and Waze at same time too. With car play, on dash display for Waze, phone display for Escort Live. nothing like diverse product redundancy. :)
 

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X is used where I am so I must leave it on. I suggest turning X on because if you ever travel you may forget to enable it. I very rarely get an X band false because they are stationary and I have stored all of them in my area.

I'm interested if DualPro 360 or an Escort detector ignores this "your speed is__" sign. These detectors filter out most of the ones that I come across. Let me know if you ever try one. Also be aware that at some intersections, modulated radar signals are now being used to trigger stop lights instead of inductive loops under the pavement. Our modern detectors filter these out as well whereas other detectors may alert to them. Occasionally, or when extremely close to the source, these may cause our detectors to alert.

Road Scout has a potent processor. Downloading and updating are done very quickly.
 

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X is used where I am so I must leave it on. I suggest turning X on because if you ever travel you may forget to enable it. I very rarely get an X band false because they are stationary and I have stored all of them in my area.

I'm interested if DualPro 360 or an Escort detector ignores this "your speed is__" sign. These detectors filter out most of the ones that I come across. Let me know if you ever try one. Also be aware that at some intersections, modulated radar signals are now being used to trigger stop lights instead of inductive loops under the pavement. Our modern detectors filter these out as well whereas other detectors may alert to them. Occasionally, or when extremely close to the source, these may cause our detectors to alert.

Road Scout has a potent processor. Downloading and updating are done very quickly.
Didn't know that about the redlights! And just to be clear, I was referring to the intersection/redlights that gave a strong alert on previous detectors. The "your speed is" sign gave an alert but it was always maybe just 5-7 seconds out, cruising at 70-75 mph.
 

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X is used where I am so I must leave it on. I suggest turning X on because if you ever travel you may forget to enable it. I very rarely get an X band false because they are stationary and I have stored all of them in my area.

I'm interested if DualPro 360 or an Escort detector ignores this "your speed is__" sign. These detectors filter out most of the ones that I come across. Let me know if you ever try one. Also be aware that at some intersections, modulated radar signals are now being used to trigger stop lights instead of inductive loops under the pavement. Our modern detectors filter these out as well whereas other detectors may alert to them. Occasionally, or when extremely close to the source, these may cause our detectors to alert.

Road Scout has a potent processor. Downloading and updating are done very quickly.
I confirm that most newer “your speed is” signs, any of the 360 products below I use are filtered out. Old combo construction signs that have radar broadcasting as a warning, which use standard radar transmitters (the radar heads can be seen below, or side of the sign) are not blocked out. I am ok with that. Not much can be done for those at this moment.
 
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Man, I'm really loving this unit after those tweaks. It's a pretty quiet commute! And I am loving the iRadar/Escort Live integration. I can't believe how many people use it around me. The only activity I had from my detector on my afternoon drive was two iRadar-based Ka alerts on that weren't even on main roads.

I need to see more actual LEO radar! But I guess I should be careful what I wish for!
 

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Man, I'm really loving this unit after those tweaks. It's a pretty quiet commute! And I am loving the iRadar/Escort Live integration. I can't believe how many people use it around me. The only activity I had from my detector on my afternoon drive was two iRadar-based Ka alerts on that weren't even on main roads.

I need to see more actual LEO radar! But I guess I should be careful what I wish for!
I find the live apps have Plenty of users running them. I think Escort and a Cobra apps reports are combined so we see each other‘s reports by the detectors or person manually reporting seeing LEO.
 

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I think Escort and a Cobra apps reports are combined so we see each other‘s reports by the detectors or person manually reporting seeing LEO.
iRadar and Escort Live alerts are shared. If you report an alert on Escort Live or iRadar, Escort Live and iRadar users will receive it.
 

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OK, so, some updates and a comparison to the DP360...I LOVE how quiet this detector is. On "Auto" mode, I get pretty much nothing except genuine police radar hits. I had a couple of K band falses other day coming from a Cadillac that puzzled me but I realized I had switched to "High." In Auto, I may get two quick beeps and then nothing.

The stuff I'm not so sure about. Maybe nothing. Maybe something. I just have NOT seen a lot of police radar over the past week or so. But on my drive home yesterday, I had two 34.7 hits. Maybe it's just the way the ramp and voice alert is setup on this detector. The voice announces the alert first then you get the tones. But it made me feel like there was little warning. Both were C/O sources. The first was a LEO coming at me. I picked him up maybe 0.8 miles away. While adequate, I feel like the second I would have turned onto this stretch of road, another mile back, I would have gotten an alert from my V1 or even my DSP9200BT. So, that was curious. Then, later on the drive, while on the interstate, I got my second 34.7 hit. I got it as I was approaching a known speed trap area and, at first I was pleased with what I thought was comparable performance to my V1 or any other good 34.7 detector. However, As I was looking ahead for the source, the LEO came down an overpass ramp and merged beside me. So, yes, he was initially probably 90 degrees off-axis and may very well have been completely pointed away from me. I just can't be certain. But it spooked me. However, I will point out that said LEO was on his way to his favorite hiding spot on the road shoulder. After he parked, I continued to receive alerts from him, even though he was behind me, for what I measure as about 1.75 miles.

A third situation occurred earlier in the week on the same stretch of road but by a different agency. I didn't have frequency display enabled at the time so not sure if it was 34.7. There was a wreck and the LEO had his car almost 90 degrees but pointed slightly toward oncoming traffic and running C/O Ka. There was a slight bend in the road and a small hill between us and I didn't detect him until I almost got in line of sight. Again, it seems like it was about 0.8 miles away.

Theoretically, I should have video from the camera to support at least the two incidents from yesterday. I would definitely help in the second incident I mentioned where the LEO merged. I don't know if I've over-written the 3rd, earlier incident from last week or early this week, whichever it was. When I get some time, I'll have to look and see if I can determine the actual range.

In the meantime, I had decided to buy my wife a DualPro 360 to replace her aging but still very adequate GX-65. I decided I would give it a try this morning to see if it performed similarly or better than the Road Scout. I ran it in Auto Mode and tried to keep it configured roughly the same as I had the Road Scout. Interestingly, it disregarded the K band speed sign I pass (just like the road scout) and completely ignored the intersection I mention earlier in this thread. Same intersection at least gave momentary alerts from the Road Scout before I locked them out. The DP360 DID alert to a set of K band doors on my route that the Road Scout had been ignoring. So I don't know if we are seeing the difference in K false reduction strategies of reducing sensitivity verses actual filtering or what? Later in my morning commute, I got a 34.7 alert from an LEO parked facing away from the road at a gas pump. I don't know exact range but it was about 0.5 miles away.

I like the Road Scout and knowing it's based off the DSP9200BT, which has always impressed me, I've been willing to give it a chance. But these 34.7 encounters....IDK.... Am I just favoring the DP knowing it's based off the Max360???
 

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Keep testing. I've had the Cobra DP 360 since June & happy to say: no lockups, no screen freeze & never used iradar/Escort Live & never updated the software/firmware. I use auto- lockouts & have great range city/highway & BSM filtering is on point! Remember....road side speed signs don't give tickets.....I still love the arrows!!! :cool:
 

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