Crossing the Border

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I just had the Escort Max 360 ci installed on my new vehicle acquisition - this is the first time I have gone with a full custom install system. I'm coming from years with a V1 where I got used to conveniently pulling it off the windshield when faced with questionable situations which obviously is not an option with the new system. I am aware of the risk that I'm running with jammers installed, which in my state amounts to basically a fix-it citation.

Well it just occurred to me that I cross into Mexico several times a year. My understanding is that laser jammers are viewed with a much different and severe consequence under federal law than under state law.

Looking for some points of view or actual experiences as to what I can expect when I cross the border and deal with federal customs agents if they were to question me or point out the presence of the jammers? Is this a situation where I should just uninstall them before I find out the hard way?
 

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I believe the recommended action is just to turn them off at border crossings and if they ask, they're parking sensors.
 

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I've taken my car into Mexico several times with jammers, crossing at the Lukeville and Nogales ports with no issues. I wouldn't worry about it. With the amount of stuff cars have these days hanging from the grills they will go unnoticed.

I just had the Escort Max 360 ci installed on my new vehicle acquisition - this is the first time I have gone with a full custom install system. I'm coming from years with a V1 where I got used to conveniently pulling it off the windshield when faced with questionable situations which obviously is not an option with the new system. I am aware of the risk that I'm running with jammers installed, which in my state amounts to basically a fix-it citation.

Well it just occurred to me that I cross into Mexico several times a year. My understanding is that laser jammers are viewed with a much different and severe consequence under federal law than under state law.

Looking for some points of view or actual experiences as to what I can expect when I cross the border and deal with federal customs agents if they were to question me or point out the presence of the jammers? Is this a situation where I should just uninstall them before I find out the hard way?
 

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Cool, thanks guys!

Has anyone else had a different experience?
 

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Cool, thanks guys!

Has anyone else had a different experience?
I've crossed the US/Canadian border many times with LJ's without issue.

My cousin's husband was a US border patrol agent, he didn't know anything about RD's or LJ's.

Maybe turn the system off while at the checkpoint so there's 0 chance of it going off, but otherwise I wouldn't worry about it.
 

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Border agents are trained to catch contraband. I don't think they give a flying **** about laser jammers and radar detectors.
 

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I've crossed the Canada/U.S. border and never been questioned about CM's. Both sides are concerned with your citizenship, length of stay, possession of drugs, firearms etc.
Just turn everything off so they don't have to ask, "what was that noise?"
 

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I just had the Escort Max 360 ci installed on my new vehicle acquisition - this is the first time I have gone with a full custom install system. I'm coming from years with a V1 where I got used to conveniently pulling it off the windshield when faced with questionable situations which obviously is not an option with the new system. I am aware of the risk that I'm running with jammers installed, which in my state amounts to basically a fix-it citation.

Well it just occurred to me that I cross into Mexico several times a year. My understanding is that laser jammers are viewed with a much different and severe consequence under federal law than under state law.

Looking for some points of view or actual experiences as to what I can expect when I cross the border and deal with federal customs agents if they were to question me or point out the presence of the jammers? Is this a situation where I should just uninstall them before I find out the hard way?
When you say there’s a light state penalty and severe federal penalty I’m guessing you mean everything under the US?

In that case you might be mixing up that state laws group “radar jammers” as radar jammers, laser jammers or any such device all together in their statutes.

there is no federal law written anything like that. However, radio waves exist on the radio frequency spectrum and thus are regulated by the FCC. If you jam radio waves (including radar, not lidar) they will fine the hell out of you.

LIDAR for whatever reason falls under the FDA and they make sure all the devices follow specifications (class 1m laser products for example) but there is no restriction on jamming them on the federal level. That decision is left to the states, an idea they should follow more.
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What you do have to watch out for is using said devices in Mexico. I have no idea if the guns are similar or not meaning potentially different Ka sources and laser guns.
 
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As for crossing the border, they're not even paying attention to any CM's mounted in your grill. As @The Mighty Four Banger mentioned, there is no federal (US) law regarding CM's and they're looking for bigger things like drugs or weapons anyway.

In terms of Mexico, I believe RD's are illegal but likewise, they're not checking at a border crossing assuming they even know what those things mounted in your grill are. In terms of speed enforcement, lots of fixed speed cameras (K band), lidar is also used. Also keep in mind the ticket threshold is 10km/h (6mph) over. Ask me how I know.....
 

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