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Jon, we are definitely discussing two completely different issues and different thread scenarios.

Think this stuff has gotten the best of everybody.

Actually, no. My post saying that screwing with "inspect element" was not hacking and that I am surprised Valentine's website let that through was reported as bashing a manufacturer and triggered a petition to ban Radenso and oust Vortex and replace him with johnboy for some reason.
 

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No the criticism was specifically aimed at one person suggesting he had inside information that the company was on the verge of being shut down.

You're perpetuating myths that it had anything to do with criticism of Mike V and contributing to a bad vibe.
But that entire thread was conjecture. And the V1 apologists would lambast anyone that dared to suggest anything other than that a new awesome V1 is right around the corner. I didn't see anything in that thread to suggest that Turbofish was posting in anything other than good faith. And the not-so-veiled legal threats were just another way to try and silence those that didn't conform to the V1 hive mind. And when Jon expressed an unpopular opinion he got reported and a petition started against him.
 

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But that entire thread was conjecture. And the V1 apologists would lambast anyone that dared to suggest anything other than that a new awesome V1 is right around the corner. I didn't see anything in that thread to suggest that Turbofish was posting in anything other than good faith. And the not-so-veiled legal threats were just another way to try and silence those that didn't conform to the V1 hive mind. And when Jon expressed an unpopular opinion he got reported and a petition started against him.
Conjecture? You mean when someone said they had an actual conversation with Mike's nephew and those conversations indicated the business was to be closed?

You are making broad, unsupported accusations to perpetuate a false narrative based on your recollection of the events that doesn't align entirely with the actual posts.

Just more drama for no good reason.
 

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But that entire thread was conjecture. And the V1 apologists would lambast anyone that dared to suggest anything other than that a new awesome V1 is right around the corner. I didn't see anything in that thread to suggest that Turbofish was posting in anything other than good faith. And the not-so-veiled legal threats were just another way to try and silence those that didn't conform to the V1 hive mind. And when Jon expressed an unpopular opinion he got reported and a petition started against him.
I think it's amusing that people are getting bent over Jon saying anything. The fact that Escort has been using "DNA" bull**** since what 2013. And claiming they use AI is ridiculous. The guys at Radenso can say nothing and make no waves and Escort will continue with their BS. The stuff they claim is complete lies, you can't put it any other way.
Yeah and nothing wrong with Jon pointing that out. But Jon has been in the Valentine threads bashing as well...

I have bashed the V1 and it’s rudimentary display and all it’s shortcomings... there are many. But Jon has bashed the company as a whole... but what’s also odd is he has commended them as well? While it’s fine for me to do that having a company on here doing that is wrong.

Sometimes it’s hard to understand what Jon is doing. Sometimes I agree with him and other times I do not. I think he needs to take a step back and look at the whole picture.

He needs to realize that the current crop of the detectors out there are still good. His new one will be better. Sit back and watch us enthusiasts point out that his new product will be better... instead of name calling and conjecture. Use facts rather than hate to push his own agenda...

And as long as his product delivers we’ll push his product and further his agenda...
 
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Not sure, but I think the “conjecture” referred to was about the substance of the entire 2000 or whatever post thread, and not just the one section of discussion.
 

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Yeah and nothing wrong with Jon pointing that out. But Jon has been in the Valentine threads bashing as well...

I have bashed the V1 and it’s rudimentary display and all it’s shortcomings... there are many. But Jon has bashed the company as a whole... but what’s also odd is he has commended them as well? While it’s fine for me to do that having a company on here doing that is wrong.

Sometimes it’s hard to understand what Jon is doing. Sometimes I agree with him and other times I do not. I think he needs to take a step back and look at the whole picture.

He needs to realize that the current crop of the detectors out there are still good. His new one will be better. Sit back and watch us enthusiasts point out that his new product will be better... instead of name calling and conjecture. Use facts rather than hate to push his own agenda...

And as long as his product delivers we’ll push his product and further his agenda...
I just went back and searched all of my posts ever in the Valentine section (less than 50 over three years, so roughly one post every 22 days), and I am genuinely curious which one you think was bashing them as a company. If you don't mind, would you post it here?

Sept 9, 2018: "I have a huge amount of respect for the V1"


March 25th, 2019: "If they do come out with something new, I have no doubt it will be a quality unit."


And tons of other posts of mine saying that he has enough money where he is not going out of business.

The only thing I can think of was relating the story of how Radenso started, with the previous owner of Radenso getting annoyed at Valentine for not returning his rightfully purchased detectors. But I hardly see how relating a historically accurate and historically relevant (origin story) of a company is bashing, and it was even on-topic since it was Valentine that caused Radenso to spring into existence.


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Perhaps Escort can give us a small display of how they apply AI/machine-learning, like Jon and Vortex did?
They better call Disney for help. Escort, what trash!
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I just went back and searched all of my posts ever in the Valentine section, and I am genuinely curious which one you think was bashing them as a company. If you don't mind, would you post it here?

Sept 9, 2018: "I have a huge amount of respect for the V1"


March 25th, 2019: "If they do come out with something new, I have no doubt it will be a quality unit."


And tons of other posts of mine saying that he has enough money where he is not going out of business.

The only thing I can think of was relating the story of how Radenso started, with the previous owner of Radenso getting annoyed at Valentine for not returning his rightfully purchased detectors. But I hardly see how relating a historically accurate and historically relevant (origin story) of a company is bashing, and it was even on-topic since it was Valentine that caused Radenso to spring into existence.


Thanks
Jon could not have been more gracious to Valentine. He has always given Valentine respect. I don't know where you guys are coming up with this s... Or is it an ESCORT mole. LOL. Trash.
 
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I just went back and searched all of my posts ever in the Valentine section (less than 50 over three years, so roughly one post every 22 days), and I am genuinely curious which one you think was bashing them as a company. If you don't mind, would you post it here?

Sept 9, 2018: "I have a huge amount of respect for the V1"


March 25th, 2019: "If they do come out with something new, I have no doubt it will be a quality unit."


And tons of other posts of mine saying that he has enough money where he is not going out of business.

The only thing I can think of was relating the story of how Radenso started, with the previous owner of Radenso getting annoyed at Valentine for not returning his rightfully purchased detectors. But I hardly see how relating a historically accurate and historically relevant (origin story) of a company is bashing, and it was even on-topic since it was Valentine that caused Radenso to spring into existence.


Thanks
The RCM sale thread comes to mind... it may not be in valentine section but...


so you criticize one second and yet also applaud their past work... that’s why I’ve said... I don’t understand you sometimes...
 
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The RCM sale thread comes to mind... it may not be in valentine section but...


so you criticize one second and yet also applaud their past work... that’s why I’ve said... I don’t understand you sometimes...
If you can't figure out that I was being sarcastic there to make a point than I would suggest your inferencing is worse than Theia's.

Note that you called me a two year old as your incredibly substantive response to my post, yet I didn't report you!

Mostly that's because I actually consider you intelligent, even if you are a bit of a dick.
 
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People are just too emotionally invested in Valentine. I mean, there's nothing posted in that thread that's wrong. I've seen over and over how people talk about the mean old lady and how you can't order accessories without giving them your SN.
 

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If you can't figure out that I was being sarcastic there to make a point than I would suggest your inferencing is worse than Theia's.

Note that you called me a two year old as your incredibly substantive response to my post, yet I didn't report you!

Mostly that's because I actually consider you intelligent, even if you are a bit of a dick.
Yeah and I still got reported and infracted... snowflakes...

either way though your sarcasm there is pointing out all of valentines flaws / issues... though tbh there are more...
 
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When I read radenso posting in other vendors forums. And pointing out obvious things. And then other posters taking exceptions to their posts

Immediately the movie “a few good men” popped into my head with the scene of tom cruise and Jack Nicholson


“I want the truth!!!!”

“U can’t handle the truth!!!!!!!!!”
 

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When I read radenso posting in other vendors forums. And pointing out obvious things. And then other posters taking exceptions to their posts

Immediately the movie “a few good men” popped into my head with the scene of tom cruise and Jack Nicholson


“I want the truth!!!!”

“U can’t handle the truth!!!!!!!!!”
Here’s Johnny

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I just went back and searched all of my posts ever in the Valentine section (less than 50 over three years, so roughly one post every 22 days), and I am genuinely curious which one you think was bashing them as a company. If you don't mind, would you post it here?

Sept 9, 2018: "I have a huge amount of respect for the V1"


March 25th, 2019: "If they do come out with something new, I have no doubt it will be a quality unit."


And tons of other posts of mine saying that he has enough money where he is not going out of business.

The only thing I can think of was relating the story of how Radenso started, with the previous owner of Radenso getting annoyed at Valentine for not returning his rightfully purchased detectors. But I hardly see how relating a historically accurate and historically relevant (origin story) of a company is bashing, and it was even on-topic since it was Valentine that caused Radenso to spring into existence.


Thanks

My thoughts are this. V1 has its hardcore supporters. (I used to be one)

the V1 has trailblazing features but The V1 relentless gets slammed for being “ancient”. And rightfully so. Even though the V1 has changed over the years. A lot things that ppl want as the industry shifted. The V1 didn’t. The hardcore V1 doesn’t like it and take exception to it

The V1 website is exactly what the V1 is. I’m surprised that you are surprised that a user changing the desktop code can break VR code in this day and age. By taking a shot at VR site is like taking shots the V1 so hardcore V1 users will take exception to that as well. But the comment about a 10 year old being able to “hack” VRs site was probably over the top

I’ll add this. Even though I would think the V1 site is dynamically created with a database (has to be for users entering their serial number and getting info)

It wouldn’t surprise me if I saw the rest of the site code and see it’s all static coding

An example is this. In this day and age. Especially at the size of VR and control VR has.internally. Product inventory should be in a database and clearly it is (again user serial number input) if the product inventory is 0. Todays sites would dynamically change to “out of stock”. But not V1s site
 

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I just went back and searched all of my posts ever in the Valentine section (less than 50 over three years, so roughly one post every 22 days), and I am genuinely curious which one you think was bashing them as a company. If you don't mind, would you post it here?

Sept 9, 2018: "I have a huge amount of respect for the V1"


March 25th, 2019: "If they do come out with something new, I have no doubt it will be a quality unit."


And tons of other posts of mine saying that he has enough money where he is not going out of business.

The only thing I can think of was relating the story of how Radenso started, with the previous owner of Radenso getting annoyed at Valentine for not returning his rightfully purchased detectors. But I hardly see how relating a historically accurate and historically relevant (origin story) of a company is bashing, and it was even on-topic since it was Valentine that caused Radenso to spring into existence.


Thanks
False flag effort trying to point at V1 users. This is about you. Not them. Or anyone else. Please, I want to buy Rai based Theia. Send your massive energy 100% that way. One second speaking about all this is Wasteful.


You and company are so far ahead, keep extending that lead and don’t turn back on stuff that distracts anyone at Big R for one second.
 

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I would rather be tied up watching the Kardashians and have a lit sparkler shoved up my dick hole than read the pre-teen bullshit complaining about Jon here.

who cares.
 

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I would rather be tied up watching the Kardashians and have a lit sparkler shoved up my dick hole than read the pre-teen bullshit complaining about Jon here.

who cares.
So then don’t? Why the **** post here then? Your post is useless...
 
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