MAX 360c updated to v1.11 - adds Multaradar CD

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Can confirm based on Escort's own words on their forum... this is meant for users in Canada which is beyond me, as the 360 can only be used in limited areas. It's not stealth and RDs are illegal in many areas.

Also, the international Ci already has multaradar capabilities from videos I've seen. How can we be "looking into this" when it's already being done in the company.

I get that international units are different, although I've never seen meaningful information as to how, just "hardware differences".

This is a very confusing release, honestly.
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I dont recall the Escort rep stating is was 🇨🇦 only, it said MRCD is a type of radar in Canada...plus that makes no sense...
 
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I dont recall the Escort rep stating is was 🇨🇦 only, it said MRCD is a type of radar in Canada...plus that makes no sense...
From what others have said MRCD is used in Canada, but not yet in the US. MRCT is currently in use here, but no way to detect it with the 360. We can update, but unless we live in Canada there is no point.
 

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MRCD is used in some provinces in Canada but not all and not where I live thankfully. Its used in Edmonton...of course!

Here is an older link about MRCD in the US

 

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I dont recall the Escort rep stating is was only, it said MRCD is a type of radar in Canada...plus that makes no sense...
In my post above you the pic shows the rep saying this was geared towards Canadian users, hence why it's off be default

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The lockup/sleeping issue was resolved in a previous firmware update. It appears that those reporting this are using Bushnell guns in their testing. Bushnell guns are noisy, similar to false alert signals. MAX detectors attempt to filter Bushnell guns out so they should not be used to judge any MAX detector's performance.

There are no updates coming for MAX 360c INTL that I am aware of.

We are looking into adding AutoJTK to select windshield mount units. There is no ETA at this time.

Enabling MRCT detection also causes additional alerts to vehicles with CAS. MRCT is used in the USA only on pole mounted cameras, our weekly updated Defender database reliably alerts to these cameras without causing additional CAS based alerts. Having said that, MRCT detection may be added at a later time. It's a possibility.

Beginning immediately, units sold to Canada will include MRCD detection out of the box.
@EscortRadar, Question: when will the 360c have ability to save multiple individual wifi hotspot +WiFi AP passwords? I have several vehicles with WiFi hot spots, plus AP reachable by vehicles at work and home. Kind of PIA when moving 360c from one vehicle to another. Or using in rental car while traveling (using phone hot spot). Changing password is clunky even with EL running. Being able to save multiple SSID and passwords, would be big help.

If the 360c models already do this, mine does not.

thank you for MRCD support. What is average time to update database once new MRTC device in the field is installed?
 
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I don't think they really know what they are doing with any of the software as of late.

They don't answer questions or address issues posted here. It clear they don't care about prior customers issues and are just looking for the next sale.

Form a buyers perspective they care more about suing other detector makers and keeping negative reviews off their forum. They don't care what we think or about any of our problems with their poor products.

ZR5s cannot jam dragon on launch (but don't tell the consumers), EX is the longest range detector made (sure it is), you have to go to an authorized installer for the Max 360ci (so we can screw you over for more $$), Max Series filters out Bushnells!! (ya right, good excuse Escort), The new Revamp of Live has a Find your Car Function!! (no one asked for it and the new version is crap for most of us)

Have they added the auto JTK for the jammers yet?

For what you get, their products are overpriced, they don't address or admit any problems.

How long does anyone believe their BS?

Seem like the way K40 operated in the past....... Just make the sale for as much as we can and sue everyone else., who cares of the product works as advertised or is worth the price, who cares if the customers are out there JTG with no auto kill.

All in all they have become a lackluster company at best with loads of corporate arrogance, and we would be better off without them in the industry suing everyone and holding up innovation.

I am sure to get a card in the mail soon to offer me $30 off a dash cam :rolleyes:
 
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I don't think they really know what they are doing with any of the software as of late.

They don't answer questions or address issues posted here. It clear they don't care about prior customers issues and are just looking for the next sale.

Form a buyers perspective they care more about suing other detector makers and keeping negative reviews off their forum. They don't care what we think or about any of our problems with their poor products.

ZR5s cannot jam dragon on launch (but don't tell the consumers), EX is the longest range detector made (sure it is), you have to go to an authorized installer for the Max 360ci (so we can screw you over for more $$), Max Series filters out Bushnells!! (ya right, good excuse Escort), The new Revamp of Live has a Find your Car Function!! (no one asked for it and the new version is crap for most of us)

Have they added the auto JTK for the jammers yet?

For what you get, their products are overpriced, they don't address or admit any problems.

How long does anyone believe their BS?

Seem like the way K40 operated in the past....... Just make the sale for as much as we can and sue everyone else., who cares of the product works as advertised or is worth the price, who cares if the customers are out there JTG with no auto kill.

All in all they have become a lackluster company at best with loads of corporate arrogance, and we would be better off without them in the industry suing everyone and holding up innovation.

I am sure to get a card in the mail soon to offer me $30 off a dash cam :rolleyes:
Yea, it’s horrible.... quick trigger and I/O K band shots were killed with updates, limited mute memories, whole swath of frequency killed in order for FW update to handle MRxx, displays fading from color to B/W then dark, beta firmware no one has access to, firmware delays, hopeless BSM, repaired devices coming back with well worn used replacements, minimal RDF involvement when wine parties were norm before, people leaving, firmware updates delayed, reported poor quality components cases cords, arrows that have problems, odd sleeping urban legend stories when next to other vehicles w/RDs...

Anti laser patents will not be licensed to others to help the community and ecosystem, GPS chaos and frustration some RDF members express. :)


Yea, it is bad.... Oops, you @samq45 were not talking about Uniden (or ALP). My mistake.. :)

I own both platforms (R and Max360), and models. I run them. Do you?

mods... NOT bashing a vendor. I am trying to show the Absurdity of the attacks. They all have their issues. I still run all the time, brand I mentioned above.

for me, I hope this will end (at least for a time) when Rai platforms come out.
 
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I don't think they really know what they are doing with any of the software as of late.

They don't answer questions or address issues posted here. It clear they don't care about prior customers issues and are just looking for the next sale.

Form a buyers perspective they care more about suing other detector makers and keeping negative reviews off their forum. They don't care what we think or about any of our problems with their poor products.

ZR5s cannot jam dragon on launch (but don't tell the consumers), EX is the longest range detector made (sure it is), you have to go to an authorized installer for the Max 360ci (so we can screw you over for more $$), Max Series filters out Bushnells!! (ya right, good excuse Escort), The new Revamp of Live has a Find your Car Function!! (no one asked for it and the new version is crap for most of us)

Have they added the auto JTK for the jammers yet?

For what you get, their products are overpriced, they don't address or admit any problems.

How long does anyone believe their BS?

Seem like the way K40 operated in the past....... Just make the sale for as much as we can and sue everyone else., who cares of the product works as advertised or is worth the price, who cares if the customers are out there JTG with no auto kill.

All in all they have become a lackluster company at best with loads of corporate arrogance, and we would be better off without them in the industry suing everyone and holding up innovation.

I am sure to get a card in the mail soon to offer me $30 off a dash cam :rolleyes:
So you cannot point out the issues with Vendors any longer? This was not a malicious attack with false accusations or name calling. Its all accepted issues - and other members - like Jon at Radenso have posted similar items.

I can understand if I did something malicious, but moderating like this makes me think I should limit my participation here.
 

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For anyone in the US that drives in Canada - that wants this update, I can confirm if you configure your PC to use a VPN server in Canada and then you start Detector Tools, it will install the update for you while in the US.
 

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I don't know if this is related to the latest fw update, but a day or two ago I suddenly got a quick burst of like 6 bogies all alerting at 33.4 or 33.5. I reminded me of a pretty classic Cobra false and only lasted a couple seconds. I don't think I've seen that before with the 360c.
 

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I don't know if this is related to the latest fw update, but a day or two ago I suddenly got a quick burst of like 6 bogies all alerting at 33.4 or 33.5. I reminded me of a pretty classic Cobra false and only lasted a couple seconds. I don't think I've seen that before with the 360c.
Yikes. I was going to update this weekend. Did not last weekend. Think I will hold off. Thanks for the report!
 

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I’m in the process of sourcing a 360 since my request from Escort have gone unanswered.

I’m interested myself, but not interested enough to plunk down $1000.00 Canadian for it.

@EscortRadar

Where exactly did you field test this new FW against MRCD?
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Thankfully, due to a generous RDF member, I’ve be able to secure a 360C for testing.

Thank you from the others for the offers. I guess we’ll have an answer to how it works.
360C showed up this morning.
Im
A little busy this weekend, but I’m going to get after it this week.
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Here’s a quick look.
it’s not a test, and you can’t see the RC-M display, but you can hear it.
The Max is running Auto noX and TSF off.
It did pick it up, but quite a bit later than the RC-M.
A better test will be something I can better control and against other WS detectors.

Just thought you’d guys would like a quick look.

The rig is the white Ford F-150 on the left side road about 4 seconds from
The end of the video.
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Moving my 360C findings over to the testing section so I don’t clutter this thread up.
 
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The lockup/sleeping issue was resolved in a previous firmware update. It appears that those reporting this are using Bushnell guns in their testing. Bushnell guns are noisy, similar to false alert signals. MAX detectors attempt to filter Bushnell guns out so they should not be used to judge any MAX detector's performance.

There are no updates coming for MAX 360c INTL that I am aware of.

We are looking into adding AutoJTK to select windshield mount units. There is no ETA at this time.

Enabling MRCT detection also causes additional alerts to vehicles with CAS. MRCT is used in the USA only on pole mounted cameras, our weekly updated Defender database reliably alerts to these cameras without causing additional CAS based alerts. Having said that, MRCT detection may be added at a later time. It's a possibility.

Beginning immediately, units sold to Canada will include MRCD detection out of the box.
Sorry but your explanation on Max360C Filtering Or trying to filter a Bushnell are false.

No matter the setting, the Max360C alerts to the Bushnell just fine.


So you have a problem with your credibility, my detector or your FW. You pick.

Pretty easy test for anyone to recreate. I’m sure the results will be the same no matter.

There’s more videos with different settings in the testing section.

If you have any settings you’d like me to try to support your claim, I’m willing to try it and video document it if you’d like?

I do also have multiple Bushnell’s so there’s that too.
 

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The lockup/sleeping issue was resolved in a previous firmware update. It appears that those reporting this are using Bushnell guns in their testing. Bushnell guns are noisy, similar to false alert signals. MAX detectors attempt to filter Bushnell guns out so they should not be used to judge any MAX detector's performance.
I said it will attempt to reject the Bushnell gun. I never said it would absolutely filter them out.

It did not detect your Bushnell gun well at all. It missed your first trigger pull completely. Bushnell guns are noisy, not like police radar. This is far worse performance than it will provide against real police radar in a real world setting (not from inside the same car which is overdriving it). It will not alert to noisy extremely powerful sources quickly as it will to police radar in a real world setting. It is attempting to filter them out.
 

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Overdriven at first, sure. Probably if I did the same with a Stalker or my Talon HR there would be hesitation. That’s not exactly why the Bushnell was placed there.

The others were done as well without issue.
I could open the garage door and do it over and over again without hesitation if you’d like?
Even with the door closed, I could shoot the Bushnell out the window or between my legs into the drivers seat to avoid overdriving the detector. Still it alerted.

You could put a 6 pack of full water bottles in front of the Bushnell to knock it down. That’s a @hiddencam trick.

It’s not like I did it only 3 times. The videos with it on auto and highway were also done in the truck with the garage door closed. I probably did it 50 times trying different settings, and adjustments.

I did that beside the detector for video purposes.
1. Yes that was a Bushnell
2. It did alert to the 360C
3. The Bushnell was in fact shooting 24.124 as you seen in the other videos according to the 360C.

I could probably get the same hesitation from all of the detectors in my arsenal with all the guns I own. It’s not like I can’t do that as I have multiple Escorts, Radenso’s, and Uniden’s.
I also have multiple radar guns and Lidar. If I don’t have something specific, I can definitely source that as well.

The 360C wasn’t attempting to filter the Bushnell. TSF or MRCD off and on had zero influence.
Nether did any of the sensitivity settings.

Really, go spend $100 on Amazon and try it yourself. It’s not hard to do. In fact I encourage others to do it as well.

Tell me how you can do it and I’ll try it myself and retract my statement or adjust it to make it correct. I proved the statement is wrong and showed it.

Your just telling people that they’re wrong and that’s not right. Even ATTEMPTING is inaccurate.

We have the time, manpower, and resources to test everything here. That’s why people, and some manufactures, come here. To tap into the resources we can provide.

It’s not like giving a detector to Bob “The Veil Guy”, and using him as your sole source as a beta tester.

I appreciate that EscortRadar is here, and starting to participate, but we do test out claims from any manufacture and either confirm or deny, especially if they seem outlandish or out of the norm.

I’ll give props where it’s due. There’s a lot I like about the 360C and the Redline EX. You can look though all of my past comments or tests.

I’m looking forward to testing the 360C against MRCD. It looks pretty good so far. It might have alerted in the feeler video I did and was later than the RC-M, but it’s not a fair comparison. It’s also not something you can say was an accurate assessment of its capabilities.
 

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I said it will attempt to reject the Bushnell gun. I never said it would absolutely filter them out.

It did not detect your Bushnell gun well at all. It missed your first trigger pull completely. Bushnell guns are noisy, not like police radar. This is far worse performance than it will provide against real police radar in a real world setting (not from inside the same car which is overdriving it). It will not alert to noisy extremely powerful sources quickly as it will to police radar in a real world setting. It is attempting to filter them out.
So when the Max 360 detected the Bushnell gun 3 miles away in this test, for example, it was malfunctioning?
 

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Sorry but your explanation on Max360C Filtering Or trying to filter a Bushnell are false.

No matter the setting, the Max360C alerts to the Bushnell just fine.


So you have a problem with your credibility, my detector or your FW. You pick.

Pretty easy test for anyone to recreate. I’m sure the results will be the same no matter.

There’s more videos with different settings in the testing section.

If you have any settings you’d like me to try to support your claim, I’m willing to try it and video document it if you’d like?

I do also have multiple Bushnell’s so there’s that too.
The 360c reacts to Bushnell different from inside the car pointed away, standing still or moving. That is what fooled me Until you guys told me to look out for the Bushnell. In my “driveway testing” inside car or out, Bushnell work 100% for me. On the road while moving with GPS features and other features designed for moving RD turned on, was when the problems picking it up about 10-20 percent of time happened. Especially in heavy traffic with BSM and fix door openers. NOT making excuses for ER. I want to be fair. I do believe based on my experience, inside a moving vehicle, the Bushnell can create false sense of sleeping.
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Overdriven at first, sure. Probably if I did the same with a Stalker or my Talon HR there would be hesitation. That’s not exactly why the Bushnell was placed there.

The others were done as well without issue.
I could open the garage door and do it over and over again without hesitation if you’d like?
Even with the door closed, I could shoot the Bushnell out the window or between my legs into the drivers seat to avoid overdriving the detector. Still it alerted.

You could put a 6 pack of full water bottles in front of the Bushnell to knock it down. That’s a @hiddencam trick.

It’s not like I did it only 3 times. The videos with it on auto and highway were also done in the truck with the garage door closed. I probably did it 50 times trying different settings, and adjustments.

I did that beside the detector for video purposes.
1. Yes that was a Bushnell
2. It did alert to the 360C
3. The Bushnell was in fact shooting 24.124 as you seen in the other videos according to the 360C.

I could probably get the same hesitation from all of the detectors in my arsenal with all the guns I own. It’s not like I can’t do that as I have multiple Escorts, Radenso’s, and Uniden’s.
I also have multiple radar guns and Lidar. If I don’t have something specific, I can definitely source that as well.

The 360C wasn’t attempting to filter the Bushnell. TSF or MRCD off and on had zero influence.
Nether did any of the sensitivity settings.

Really, go spend $100 on Amazon and try it yourself. It’s not hard to do. In fact I encourage others to do it as well.

Tell me how you can do it and I’ll try it myself and retract my statement or adjust it to make it correct. I proved the statement is wrong and showed it.

Your just telling people that they’re wrong and that’s not right. Even ATTEMPTING is inaccurate.

We have the time, manpower, and resources to test everything here. That’s why people, and some manufactures, come here. To tap into the resources we can provide.

It’s not like giving a detector to Bob “The Veil Guy”, and using him as your sole source as a beta tester.

I appreciate that EscortRadar is here, and starting to participate, but we do test out claims from any manufacture and either confirm or deny, especially if they seem outlandish or out of the norm.

I’ll give props where it’s due. There’s a lot I like about the 360C and the Redline EX. You can look though all of my past comments or tests.

I’m looking forward to testing the 360C against MRCD. It looks pretty good so far. It might have alerted in the feeler video I did and was later than the RC-M, but it’s not a fair comparison. It’s also not something you can say was an accurate assessment of its capabilities.
Look, what I experienced with the between 10-20% Bushnell failed alerts happened from inside the vehicle, pointed not directly at the 360c (mostly to the side or back windows) while moving. I have not seen issues with any “in the driveway or garage” testing with Bush inside or out of vehicle. No making excuses for ER. Something is different when moving.

AND not one Kustom HR or Stalker Ka (both version one and two guns) test in moving vehicle has my 360c slept or locked up. I carry one or both evey day I use the 360c. Clients have asked what the heck they are when spotted in back seat. :)
 
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Put it between your legs and fire it into your seat so you don’t overdrive the detector.
Close your thighs around it too.

Sounds dirty, but this works.
 

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