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If we decided to make the NR DSP a stand alone remote unit......

What would you want for a controller?
What would you want for a display?
What would you want for features?

Just considering options for future products since we feel there is a market for a high performance budget stand alone radar system. We are not looking to compete against the Radenso Theia platform (We expect that to be the new flagship system) but there is certainly a market for some entry level systems with very good performance. Right now we are using the ALP for control of the NR and we have been asked many times if there was a radar only solution. We are pretty happy with the integration at this point and we are very happy with the DSP radar performance. There is always room for improvement and being tied to the ALP we have to rely on AntiLaser to implement improvements and because their main focus is on laser support for woldwide customers sometimes radar improvements take longer than we would like them to take. (I know I am still waiting for that ALP Display myself)

Again this is just a brain storming thread trying to get an idea of what you guys prefer. Is an OLED Display like an R3 or R7 preferred or do you prefer a larger screen like the Stinger Display? How many buttons would you want on a controller? Do you like the size and buttons of a 360ci controller or the K40 Controllers, etc. I know you guys want integrated BT and open source so you guys can play and create your own stuff so some stuff is a given.

Again this not something that I have committed to doing but just brain storming things we could do to improve the user experience in the future.
 

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Controller/DIsplay 3x2 display, similar to the Stringer, with smaller version of the current HiFi system. Quick removal screen to hide or shutdown.

Features, ablitiy to turn on and off function/features like the site. Set lockouts, and able to show more than just than one threat, this would allow that easy lockout vs toggling. Faster BT 5.0 if we are to use other devices and apps like JBV1 style.
 

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A smaller screen provides more placement options and is easier to conceal or blend in. After all part of the rationale for remote systems is concealment.
I prefer buttons for frequently used controls, such as muting, profiles etc. because I can memorize their position by feel (rather than having to look at the screen) for safer use while driving.
Appreciate your asking for our input BRD. Thanks.
 

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Great idea Tom.
Alway great to see more competition in the market and get ideas from the community.

I’m use to the RC-M so there’s I think could be improved or expanded on.

I like the magnetic base. I’d prefer some color options Maybe along the size of the MaxCi?
The ability to run without a phone and still keep functionality would be a huge benefit.

Ability to scan lower than 24.050
 

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Controller/DIsplay 3x2 display, similar to the Stringer, with smaller version of the current HiFi system. Quick removal screen to hide or shutdown.

Features, ablitiy to turn on and off function/features like the site. Set lockouts, and able to show more than just than one threat, this would allow that easy lockout vs toggling. Faster BT 5.0 if we are to use other devices and apps like JBV1 style.
I was originally thinking of an LCD display but dealers prefer normal smaller displays similiar to the Escort 360ci so that they could put displays in rear view mirrors, ash trays, etc. Its much harder to work with larger displays. There is no easy solution that works for everyone. :(
 

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I was originally thinking of an LCD display but dealers prefer normal smaller displays similiar to the Escort 360ci so that they could put displays in rear view mirrors, ash trays, etc. Its much harder to work with larger displays. There is no easy solution that works for everyone. :(
Small is nice, but limits what can be placed on the screen. I do not like the Escort screen. Now more can be done with Uniden R7, but isn't.... and too much going on it not needed. A waste of real estate if you ask me. Maybe you can do something that size?
 
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A display thats similar size to the RC M would be ideal, specially for individuals that are in areas where CM are prohibited.
 

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Something thats similar size to the RC M would be ideal, specially for individuals that are in areas where CM are prohibited.
Never was a fan of the display, though like that you an detach. Thick that was a nice idea.
I live in such banned areas, so, I can understand. Problem is, too much info by an RD system with limited user input.
 

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Never was a fan of the display, though like that you an detach. Thick that was a nice idea.
I live in such banned areas, so, I can understand. Problem is, too much info by an RD system with limited user input.
What things did you not like about the RC M display? And yes having the ability to detach the display is a great feature. I would have also liked to see different colour available for the display, as it can be hard to read depending on the lighting.
 
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Big displays are nice but really hurt the concealment, And there's already a massive shift to putting giant displays in cars further cutting down a lot of center console area real estate. If we were to go mini TV route it would really help to see a separate pad for buttons over a touchscreen. Touchscreens are way worse when it comes to distracted driving compared to tactile buttons. That being said, a split display and button pad similar to escort style would be perfect. I like the small display because I can hide it better and I like the split control pad because it allows for more options on where to hide the display and I can crack them open and hijack car OEM buttons. Further on the display, OLED would be preferred so we can get a color choice. Speaker doesn't really matter as long as it gets ear-piercing loud. Remote LEDs would also be awesome and help visualize alerts better which minimizes drawbacks of a smaller display.

Doing this would definitely split me between a NetRadar or theia when upgrade time rolls around. Having a more radar focused interface would probably also help combat other remote systems.

I am pretty indifferent on Bluetooth especially if updates can be done over an extended USB cable. However, the capability might attract a nice app development and followers for that.
 
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I've come to like having a larger display like the Stinger VIP, but I understand why installers would prefer the MaxCi style controllers and displays. If you did offer a larger LCD display, make sure it's polarized properly so it can be read while wearing polarized sunglasses. Being detachable is a cool feature too.

Whether a large or smaller display, I really like how the Max360 can use LED lights to indicate not just direction, but color code the band. For many of us, LED's are much easier to see during the daytime over OLED's. Maybe an OLED display that also contains multi-color LED's could be done, like a mash-up of the Max360 and MaxCi360 (which I believe is only blue colored arrows).

An open API would be great, even if you only provided documentation on the NetRadar DSP antenna serial protocol so that someone could build there own RD system around the antenna that you sell and profit from. Manufacturers don't have the resources to make everyone happy, but an open source project could...
 

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Display size doesn't matter to me. I have an STiR, Max 360ci, and RC M and can't say that I prefer one display over another - but a remote detector MUST have a display in order for a lot of us to consider it. I can only speak for my family but my wife and kids aren't going to use a detector that requires a phone. I'm just happy if I can get them to put gas in the car when it's on empty.
 

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What are you thoughts on the controller? I like a size of something between the Escort and K40 but again just getting ideas on size. I was thinking something in the middle. I have been dealing with the ALP with two buttons for so long I dont know what I would so with so many buttons :)

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I was originally thinking of an LCD display but dealers prefer normal smaller displays similiar to the Escort 360ci so that they could put displays in rear view mirrors, ash trays, etc. Its much harder to work with larger displays. There is no easy solution that works for everyone. :(
Escort 360ci would be a good format for me.
 

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What would you want for a display?
I like the size of the multicolor OLED display used in the Max Ci.

I don't like the single-color OLED displays used in the Whistler CR, Radenso, and Genevo detectors.

If a single-color OLED display were to be used, I'd rather see an HP LED display used like in the Escort RedLine. I think it is referred to as an HP AlGaAs 280 LED Matrix display. I prefer it because one doesn't have to worry about OLED burn-in affecting the screen quality.
 

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I like the size of the multicolor OLED display used in the Max Ci.

I don't like the single-color OLED displays used in the Whistler CR, Radenso, and Genevo detectors.

If a single-color OLED display were to be used, I'd rather see an HP LED display used like in the Escort RedLine. I think it is referred to as an HP AlGaAs 280 LED Matrix display. I prefer it because one doesn't have to worry about OLED burn-in affecting the screen quality.
If we go with an OLED display it will have to be a color display. Too many dealers tell me their customers want to be able to customize the colors and its so much easier having one display and let them choose a color. I think the size of the R7 Display is about as large as I would want to go. R3 size is too small and R7 size once housing is adding and some electronics are added it might become too large. We are looking at many options but I would love to find a screen that already exists in format because tooling a complete new custom display could cost as much as $100k.
 

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What things did you not like about the RC M display? And yes having the ability to detach the display is a great feature. I would have also liked to see different colour available for the display, as it can be hard to read depending on the lighting.
Way basic in detail. I am a techie, and would like more info. I get too that having a small display for concealment is great, but if you compare the detail of V1 display to the RC-M you have a better grasp of info.. now yes all red and others have modified the LEDs to ID the threat in Band, not had that problem. If you make the RC-M display only and fill the unit with Display only, keeping the controls like the 360ci, then it would say win. OLED would be nice as well like the 360ci/R7. Something in between R3 - R7 ?
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What are you thoughts on the controller? I like a size of something between the Escort and K40 but again just getting ideas on size. I was thinking something in the middle. I have been dealing with the ALP with two buttons for so long I dont know what I would so with so many buttons :)

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I like that control pad

Also for a display

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When not detecting

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It would be cool if whatever control box that is developed could be run "headless" (ie no display or control pad), instead using only a phone (and maybe a concealed mute button) like the SmartRadar. There must be a market for a simple, high performance remote system, and as long as the API was documented installers could come up with all sorts of custom display/control solutions.
 

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Tom, I'm not a NR user but for your controller:

A user programmable button that is a "hot key" for scrolling through whatever setting I've set to it.

The hot key labeled "*" on the controller would come with something dummy proof tied to it, or just disabled in general. The only limitations are it can't be set to a function another "hard coded" button is.

So for example, I set the "*" key to the K setting: k off, k wide, k narrow. If I tap that key at anytime it scrolls to the next K setting. That's all it does. Holding it for five sec let's you scroll through the settings and set a category to it.

Just a weird idea. I think It'd be a slick trick that would really make a difference.

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