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Which Poliscan can´t it jam? It works for me. This is the one used in France and it is beeing jammed. "Laser Patrol / Poliscan / UltraLyte"
 

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Which Poliscan can´t it jam? It works for me. This is the one used in France and it is beeing jammed. "Laser Patrol / Poliscan / UltraLyte"
Do you have evidence it's actually JAMMING it or just detecting it? Have you drive by the Poliscan at PSL +15 to check?
 

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Positive, in France on a 130 km limit zone driving at 165 (or above, up to 180), no tickets arrived, I would have been stopped IMMEDIATELY. Usually being shot from the front and at distances up to 800m, severals shots up to the LEO. For sure it is jamming the laser. Saw the LEO with the gun, saw the VIP screen showing the shield was on. Several times. Driving by an autonomous LIDAR, no flashes while other cars were getting flashes, spped limit 90, driving over 100.
In Spain, had the gun in my hand and shot the car, no reading. This was during a visit from a Genevo representative. The error code was something like unable to get reading, not jam error.
I am positive that it jams that type of Laser, actually in Spain and France it jams all teh available LIDARs except Velolaser.
In France the grace margin is +4% and in Spain +7%.
 

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@Bichi I am fully confident in the Freedom to jam all hand helds, though last time Stinger was asked the question (2 weeks ago) can Freedom jam a Poliscan, the answer was NO.

Your post says you didn't recieve anything in the mail are you certain this was against a poliscan at the speeds you state?
 

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Just spoke with stinger technical support and yes it works on poliscan. Poliscan is a fixed 15,000 pps wide field and sharp angled dispersment unit. It will ignore a car with parking sensors transmitting back to it, as it cannot determine what lane its in etc, no jam codes.To have poliscan protection, you should use one rx and one tx on EACH SIDE PORT to achieve the best results against this off axis unit. Also ,older parking sensor units may work against this fixed pulse unit as well. I believe my laser interceptor alerted to this unit once a very long time ago. The technician said, stinger does not like to put which brands it works against, but ues the 15,000 pps fixed poliscans are in the units current software.
 
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Just spoke with stinger technical support and yes it works on poliscan. Poliscan is a fixed 15,000 pps wide field and sharp angled dispersment unit. It will ignore a car with parking sensors transmitting back to it, as it cannot determine what lane its in etc, no jam codes.To have poliscan protection, you should use one rx and one tx on EACH SIDE PORT to achieve the best results against this off axis unit. Also ,older parking sensor units may work against this fixed pulse unit as well. I believe my laser interceptor alerted to this unit once a very long time ago. The technician said, stinger does not like to put which brands it works against, but ues the 15,000 pps fixed poliscans are in the units current software.
Yeah LI can jam it fine. I was quite surprised to hear Stinger couldn't, glad to learn that's not the case.
 

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Poliscan is a fixed 15,000 pps wide field and sharp angled dispersment unit.
That's a new one on me unless Stinger know different ;

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Its always been around 100 pps with a bit of +/- due to the rotating mirror used to sweep the beam across the road way.
 

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Just spoke with stinger technical support and yes it works on poliscan. Poliscan is a fixed 15,000 pps wide field and sharp angled dispersment unit. It will ignore a car with parking sensors transmitting back to it, as it cannot determine what lane its in etc, no jam codes.To have poliscan protection, you should use one rx and one tx on EACH SIDE PORT to achieve the best results against this off axis unit. Also ,older parking sensor units may work against this fixed pulse unit as well. I believe my laser interceptor alerted to this unit once a very long time ago. The technician said, stinger does not like to put which brands it works against, but ues the 15,000 pps fixed poliscans are in the units current software.
Interesting, this goes against all information Stinger have told me, one thing I know for sure it operates at 100pps as @winterbrew has stated and provided a copy of the Vitronic manual proving it.
 

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Google search "poliscan 15,000 pps" . This site wont let me post the instruction manual for some dumb reason. But maybe 15,000 pps means nothing and the frequency does? Don't know lol. Its a fixed pulsed rate unit thought.
 
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Google search "poliscan 15,000 pps" . This site wont let me post the instruction manual for some dumb reason. But maybe 15,000 pps means nothing and the frequency does? Don't know lol. Its a fixed pulsed rate unit thought.
It's the same thing! @winterbrew correct me if I am wrong?
 

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Poliscan does shoot 158k pps. It measures 158 separate areas using a rotating mirror assembly and updates that info 100 times a second. That comes out to around 158k pps.
 

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I've seen a YouTube before which shows a Whistler RD on pps detect mode showing it floating between around 78 - 100 pps as it sweeps the roadway ahead.

The table from my post above is taken from the Vitronic operators manual, although as you say, it takes around 158k samples for the 3D lidar scene capture by nature of the rotating mirror, the lidar frequency is 100 Hz / pps.
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ALP in pro mode also sounds pretty much like a steady 100 pps sort of noise compared to some of those I've seen on one of the threads here for the the higher rate (TSS) or VPR guns
 
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Whistler will not be accurate enough to detect the PSS pulses, as it will miss some pulses.

With a more accurate device you can clearly see that the mirror is not rotating with an exact revolution (which is not necessary for speed measurement), which results in a "variable" pulse rate centred at 100Hz. Also when you get closer to the laser, pulses will overlap.
 

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I have asked singer to provide an official answer on redflex. We are getting it here in Ontario next week.
 

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I have asked singer to provide an official answer on redflex. We are getting it here in Ontario next week.
I can't wait to hear it! I wouldn't be surprised if they just flatly ignore the question!
 

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I can't wait to hear it! I wouldn't be surprised if they just flatly ignore the question!
Stinger technical support explained to me, thats poking the bear, to show a manufacturers brand and or firmware in the open, but the engineers base the software by the products used today.
 

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I'm still waiting for a response from them and have prompted them again. I did see that there is a test from April online that used the R7, R3, Radenso, 360, and V1. Some fared better than others but the range was inconsistent and short.
 

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