2019 Camaro ZL1 Install Question

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Hi all,

I know there have been some discussions around this car, but the two threads that I was able to find regarding this particular car did not have a definitive conclusion. Some knowledge background regarding this car, the front is pretty wide and not necessarily flat, by that , I mean the larger grill is not in the same line as the lower (vertical) DRLs (Pictured). The reason I mention this is that I used to have the same generation Camaro SS and it was JTG with 3 heads up front mounted in the lower grill, but that car had a relatively flat front end.

Im planning on installing 2RX and 1TX in the front and 2 RX in the rear. Im located in CA, so based on my research, the DE guns are not used here, mostly TSS and Pro-lasers in the Bay Area based on my experience. Therefore, I think, please correct me if Im wrong, the above set up should be sufficient for this car.

With that said I saw both this and more recently this one, which was followed up with some testing. However, the last update on the second one reported some PTs at 500ft. Im not sure how significant that would be in the real world, and whether it would apply to CA since the OP in the said thread is in FL.

Now here are my options:

1. Install both of the RX andTX in the lower grill as shown below. I would have them stick out past the middle white part of the bumper but not the lower splitter. would that be an issue?
In this scenario the TX is about 21 inches off the ground and the the RXs would be just under 30 inches apart.

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2. Install the TX in the Chevy emblem (it is hallow) in the upper grill and install the RXs in lower grill.
In this scenario the TX would be about 25 inches off the ground and the RXs would be just under 30 inches apart.

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As I mentioned earlier the front is not completely flat therefore,Im not sure how protected the lower daylight running lights would be, you can see the side view of the car below.

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and here is the plan for the rear, which should be straight forward, but I welcome any alternative suggestion.

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Sorry about the long post, but I wanted to make sure I cover all the angles of the car as well as the possible options.

thank you all in advance for your help.
 
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I would do Option #1--that would be a very strong install, but always get it checked after the install. I would NOT put the TX in the Chevy emblem, that will do you know good as the hood and bumper overhang would block the TX firing pattern--they "All" need to be sticking out a hair as you said. Rear install looks good
 
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The Tx is actually probably overkill for CA. Cool if you are going to travel or just want the extra protection for future-proofing though. Rx placment front and rear looks fine to me. I agree with @Holla about putting the Tx in the bowtie, if you do use it. I think inside the bowtie would work depending on how far you stick it out.
 
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The Tx is actually probably overkill for CA. Cool if you are going to travel or just want the extra protection for future-proofing though. Rx placment front and rear looks fine to me. I agree with @Holla about putting the Tx in the bowtie, if you do use it.
I said DO NOT put in the emblem lol cause its recessed and the firing pattern will be blocked! I changed up my wording now a little hahaaha!!
 

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Sorry, my bad. I think it would be fine considering the height of the emblem off of the shelf in the grill. Depends on how far you stick it out and what the angle is.

Edited my reply above.
 

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I said DO NOT put in the emblem lol cause its recessed and the firing pattern will be blocked!
Thank you both for responding. @Holla, that is a great point, I did not think about that. Basically took both options from other threads that I mentioned.
 

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Now how fast is that bad boy? I cannot imagine having 650Hp to play around with!
 

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Sorry, my bad. I think it would be fine considering the height of the emblem off of the shelf in the grill. Depends on how far you stick it out and what the angle is.
I think it would have to stick out quite a bit to pass at least the first part of the bumper (the white part directly underneath it)
 

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I did read the second thread you posted and actually had been involved in that one as well. It was only DE where they were getting PT's and his heads were a bit too close. You'll be good in CA with your head spacing IMHO, even without the TX. Have your install tested though of course, and report back!
 

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Now how fast is that bad boy? I cannot imagine having 650Hp to play around with!
It only goes 65 MPH!!!! In all seriousness, it definitely goes, but surprisingly, it is very refined and does not have a lot of drama, which makes it a perfect candidate for CMs.
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I did read the second thread you posted and actually had been involved in that one as well. It was only DE where they were getting PT's and his heads were a bit too close. You'll be good in CA with your head spacing IMHO, even without the TX. Have your install tested though of course, and report back!
Thank you. In the second thread, do you remember how much the TX was pushed out from the logo? pretty hard to see in the posted pics.
 

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I tested that zL1 that had the pts, and it was only against de at close range on the vertical foglights, every other gun was JTG. And hitting those fog lights further out didn't have an issues it was just the foglights super close with DE. You should be fine in CA with this setup , probably would be fine with a dual RX.
 

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I tested that zL1 that had the pts, and it was only against de at close range on the vertical foglights, every other gun was JTG. And hitting those fog lights further out didn't have an issues it was just the foglights super close with DE. You should be fine in CA with this setup , probably would be fine with a dual RX.
Great, appreciate the response. do you remember how much the TX was pushed out from the logo? or was it flush with the grill?
 

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Great, appreciate the response. do you remember how much the TX was pushed out from the logo? or was it flush with the grill?
He had the tx a little more flush than I would have suggested.. if stick it out a tiny bit. Basically make sure that going out from the head up and down 30 degrees has a clear shot to be safe. I would also aim the tx up about 3 degrees off level as I have found that helps a little bit... But again thats all about DE performance, for the fixed rate and stalker XLR it will be very solid
 

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Hi all,

I stopped by the shop to check the progress on the car and I’m a bit concerned with the placement of the fro RX sensors. Looking at the pictures closely, I think the front RX sensors are too tucked In and need to be pulled forward as they are completely covered by the top section of the bumper. I think from what I have read the sensors should at leas line up with the edge of bumper.Am I correct on this?

think the TX - mounted inside of the Chevy logo- is good, if you look closely on the 3rd pic, you can see that it is pulled out passed the logo’s top edge.

Thank you gain for all your help.


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TX is good imo, As far as Rx, With the testing ive done, You have more leniency on Rx placement with the TX.

I would make sure the Angle of the Rx gets addressed. And while bubbles dont matter, Its worth keeping it symmetrical.

See if you can discuss getting the install tested before the job is over. I knew a guy that had his jammers professionally installed, got tested, PT galore, and the shop took the car back in and made sure it was JTG.
 

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TX is good imo, As far as Rx, With the testing ive done, You have more leniency on Rx placement with the TX.

I would make sure the Angle of the Rx gets addressed. And while bubbles dont matter, Its worth keeping it symmetrical.

See if you can discuss getting the install tested before the job is over. I knew a guy that had his jammers professionally installed, got tested, PT galore, and the shop took the car back in and made sure it was JTG.
Thank you. The pictures dont show it well, but they actually had the angle correct, ie both sensors are on the same plane and and tilted to be pointed straight. My issue was that compare to my last car, the sensors were to tucked in, I know its hard to see in the picture, but lets put it this way, if you stand in the front center of the car, very close to the bumper and look directly down, you will not see the RX sensors, or ever the bubbles as the entire unit is tucked in under the bumper edge.
 

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