Any hope for Android Auto?

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I will be getting a new car next year with a head unit that supports Android Auto. Is there any hope that I would be able to use Android Auto to interact with JBV1 on the head unit? The only reason I would need a phone mount is to use JBV1. Otherwise I would keep it in the console.
It is a Chevrolet so it will have MyLink but I'm assuming it would be a pipe dream to be able to use that directly.
 

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Apps for Android Auto are approved by Google humans on a per-app basis. They must fit into predefined classifications (e.g. music player, messaging) and have specific user interfaces depending on the classification. There's no classification yet for this type of app, and I can't justify the time required to try to fool them, only to fail in the end.
 

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Apps for Android Auto are approved by Google humans on a per-app basis. They must fit into predefined classifications (e.g. music player, messaging) and have specific user interfaces depending on the classification. There's no classification yet for this type of app, and I can't justify the time required to try to fool them, only to fail in the end.
As they should be...the last thing you want is some rogue app having access to your car's central processing....i.e. recall the car hacks that occurred (to I think Jeep) a few years ago?
With more and more cars becoming fully automatic, I really don't want a rogue app from ever being near the central car processing...regardless if it's audio related or not.

I mean humans are smart and they find ways to hack into things...I mean recently there is that "unremovable" android malware that survives factory reset.
 

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I looked into this a little. I'm not a programmer so I realize a little knowledge can be dangerous :).
Android Auto does have a Custom App option:

Again, I'm not a programmer but if there is anything I could do to help make this happen let me know.
 

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Sterling, have you used Android Auto yet?

I've looked through the info you provided. I wonder if JBV1 would have to be severely simplified in an Android Auto situation. There's a definite lack of options available through AA compared to the native Android app interfaces.

I use Waze (and possibly will have to use GMaps one of these days) in my Android Auto screen with JBV1 in full screen below it.
 

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I looked into this a little. I'm not a programmer so I realize a little knowledge can be dangerous :).
Android Auto does have a Custom App option:

Again, I'm not a programmer but if there is anything I could do to help make this happen let me know.
From that page,

"Android Auto is currently working with specific partners to develop custom apps."

I'm 100% certain that niche apps like mine aren't gonna be worth their time or consideration. Besides, I can provide a much better interface outside of the confines of AA guidelines.
 

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I've used Android Auto but not much. I don't currently have a car that supports AA on the in dash display. There are better options if you are just using your phone.
The main advantage (for me) would be the ability to have JBV1 show on the car display and be able to do all of the interfacing there. The phone could be placed in the center console or somewhere else out of sight. I realize that the JBV1 display would probably need to be simplified on AA but the sacrifice would be worth it to me to not have to have a separate mount in an accessible location for the phone.
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I think the biggest problem would be that Google may not want to take the flack for having a police deterrent and they probably don't like the back door access to VVaze.
My main objective is to have a less cluttered cockpit.
 
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My perspective is that I don't want JBV1 on my info screen.
For one thing, it's not in line of sight, then there's the issue of using the various screens VAG provide in the system. Some are quite cluttered and an overlay would be hard to read.
Lastly, if AA disconnects for no known reason, as it has a habit of doing, what am I going to do?
Dig out a w/s mount, hook up a power supply? Certainly not while driving.
I'll stick to the dedicated phone. Licence protection is too important to take risks with.
That's why I use V1's to start with.
 

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Since I had some spare time on my hands this week....:bang:
I got JBV1 workin on the car screen!
(Using a rooted phone running AAMirror)
Can't get the Waze overlay to work though... and I seem to have lost the map in JBV1... (still learning :D).

THIS is cool!

IMG_0839.JPG
 

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@Mystic330 please keep us informed of your progress! If you think it's stable-enough, let us know how we can try it!

Understood the big requirement is a rooted Android phone...but if you can tell us how to set it up, it looks awesome!
 

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Good afternoon Officer.
Good afternoon Sir, say what's that on your info system? It looks just like a radar detector display.
You wouldn't have one of those illegal things would you?:(
 

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Only illegal here in a few jurisdictions. Plus, if it were, and you were running your V1, wouldn't you already have tried to hide it before the officer stepped alongside your vehicle??? :)
 

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Only illegal here in a few jurisdictions. Plus, if it were, and you were running your V1, wouldn't you already have tried to hide it before the officer stepped alongside your vehicle??? :)
I was taking the michael. But, to be serious, if a clued up cop sees the display, that means the V1 is still connected and he'll go looking.
 

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@Mystic330 please keep us informed of your progress! If you think it's stable-enough, let us know how we can try it!

Understood the big requirement is a rooted Android phone...but if you can tell us how to set it up, it looks awesome!
I've got a MotoG5 - There's lots of online resources, but in a nutshell you unlock the bootloader, install TWRP to phone, wipe phone, copy Magisk to phone, run Magisk script, install Android Auto, install AAMirror, install AA Phenotype Patcher and give permissions, install JBV1, plug it into car and click AAMirror... You are then mirroring everything on the phone screen to the car screen.
Both JBV1 and Waze work, but if you click the Waze icon within JBV1 to get the overlays, Waze doesn't launch... not sure what's going on.... I might try the split screen method as well...
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I was taking the michael. But, to be serious, if a clued up cop sees the display, that means the V1 is still connected and he'll go looking.
Yeah - You've gotta be aware enough to stash the V1 before the LEO gets behind you (assuming the stop is because of something other than them seeing the detector) - It's gotta be quick and discrete! Practice it! Take the whole thing - Unclick the RJ11, Grab the little bar between suction cups, and take the whole thing down in one fluid motion...
 
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Not being argumentative (truly not); but perhaps some people can throw out some scenarios where this would be preferred in daily use.

AAMirror is not touch capable. (Unless I'm wrong) so if you do need touch screen access, you still have to have access to the phone anyway. Then there are two screens showing the same thing only one works better at the moment and it's not the AA screen. :-(

I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this. :)
Currently I have my phone right below my AA screen anyway and I can see two different things at once. JBV1 on the phone, Waze for navigation on AA.

Interesting project!

Oh, almost forgot. My V1 is hidden up against the headliner and all I have to do is turn off the phone and stuff it next to the seat if stopped. (And use the kill switch or turn the car off)
 
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Getting an app to run on the headunit, without using AAMirror is possible. I use an app by Emil Borconi Szedressy called "OBD2 for AA" that allows me to run and control the Torque app on my factory AA headunit. You get it here on XDA Labs.
I wonder if JB could partner with him to get an implementation that works, because having JBV1 running on my headunit would be amazing.
 

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AAMirror is not touch capable. (Unless I'm wrong) so if you do need touch screen access, you still have to have access to the phone anyway. Then there are two screens showing the same thing only one works better at the moment and it's not the AA screen. :-(
It IS touch capable on my setup (VW factory head unit) - Wonder if it's dependent on the headunit capabilities?

I think it's just a preference type of thing - In a cramped hothatch cockpit, I'd rather have everything on the main screen where it's nice and big.
 

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It IS touch capable on my setup (VW factory head unit) - Wonder if it's dependent on the headunit capabilities?
I gladly stand corrected then!
Just to be clear, although you are not getting everything working entirely yet, you can interact with JBV1 on the Android Auto screen as if you were interacting with the phone? (Just clarifying what you just said. :))

That changes my whole impression of this. :)
 

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It IS touch capable on my setup (VW factory head unit) - Wonder if it's dependent on the headunit capabilities?

I think it's just a preference type of thing - In a cramped hothatch cockpit, I'd rather have everything on the main screen where it's nice and big.
I smiled at this, after my GT86 (Scion to you) my GTi clone seems like a limo.
 

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I gladly stand corrected then!
Just to be clear, although you are not getting everything working entirely yet, you can interact with JBV1 on the Android Auto screen as if you were interacting with the phone? (Just clarifying what you just said. :))

That changes my whole impression of this. :)
Yes Sir! Slick as @#%^!
(I have AA Phenotype Patcher running on the phone before I plug it in - I think this has something to do with it)

(If you notice, when I click the Waze button within JBV1, nothing happens... ??? Still working on this.
Waze works fine alone, but not from JBV1, which I think gets you the screen overlays....)
 

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