Mobile radar and cameras start tracking work-zone speeders next week in Pennsylvania

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Pennsylvania’s new statewide Automated Work Zone Speed Enforcement program goes online next week, eventually leading to violations and fines being sent automatically to the owners of vehicles caught speeding through road construction. ... The state transportation officials chose Arizona-based Redflex Traffic Systems Inc. for the five-year, estimated $30 million contract. The deal comes about three years after the subsidiary of Melbourne, Australia-based Redflex Holdings Group resolved a multi-state pay-to-play scandal.
The writer of the article actually did their homework and details some of the many bribery and corruption cases in RedFlex's recent past.

Work zones monitored under the new program will be listed at workzonecameras.penndot.gov. They will be selected by a data-driven process to maximize the effectiveness of the systems and will be marked with signage in advance of the enforcement area. That data will include traffic volume, average work zone speeds and incidents of crashes, said DeFebo, from the Turnpike Commission.
 

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Good info. Thanks for posting. I've been dreading seeing more Redflex based on what I've read from our members in NZ and other locations. Looks like a real tough one for most RDs.
 

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Ugh, more low powered K band cameras coming to the US, great
 

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Ugh, more low powered K band cameras coming to the US, great
Yep, and it will get worse I suspect. Better detection of these low power sources needs to be one of the next necessary advancements right up there with BSM filtering.
 

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Passed this White Jeep Grand Cherokee on my way into work today. Was parked in construction area on I476 North between Harleysville and Quakertown exists.

Tailgate was open with large device in rear. Likely the Radar unit. Two cameras appear to be mounted to roof racks facing both front and rear.

I also happened to pass it on my way home tonight, took a couple crappy photos without looking.

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Isn't Redflex the radar that can be picked up better by turning the detector vertical... I will have to go find the testing VG did in Arizona from back in April.

I haven't seen any testing with detectors and BSM falses with vertical setups, I know it effects range of the typical radar we see but it may be at least an option for these Redflex systems?
 

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I'll keep an eye out and see if these are setup on the 95 prior to the 295/95 split to NJ
 

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This is going to suck big time. Hopefully they have to abide by the same notification rules with speed signs and such. I’ve been dreading seeing redflex cameras.
 

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This is going to suck big time. Hopefully they have to abide by the same notification rules with speed signs and such. I’ve been dreading seeing redflex cameras.
I think that's what the law requires with them being used actively. Warning signs ahead of the enforced area.
 

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Likely the LIDAR unit.
Much thanks for the recon, but I can confirm that Redflex is radar based.

Isn't Redflex the radar that can be picked up better by turning the detector vertical... I will have to go find the testing VG did in Arizona from back in April.
I haven't seen any testing with detectors and BSM falses with vertical setups, I know it effects range of the typical radar we see but it may be at least an option for these Redflex systems?
From my understanding Redflex is horizontally polarized which means we generally get better detections when mounting our RDs vertically. This does cause a loss of sensitivity to other threats so maybe hold off until they start venturing out of the construction zones.

This is going to suck big time. Hopefully they have to abide by the same notification rules with speed signs and such. I’ve been dreading seeing redflex cameras.
Yes I serendipitously ended up talking to one of the attorneys that works at the law office the state government contracts to handle some aspect of these things; there must be notifications and they can only be operational while work is going on. For now...
 

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I will be checking this out shortly. A drive out to Western PA is coming soon. A new Toy :happyanim:
 

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Passed this White Jeep Grand Cherokee on my way into work today. Was parked in construction area on I476 North between Harleysville and Quakertown exists.

Tailgate was open with large device in rear. Likely the LIDAR unit. Two cameras appears to be mounted to roof racks facing both front and rear.

I also happened to pass it on my way home tonight, took a couple crappy photos without looking.
Yeah, so much for the entire "only to be used when it's a active work zone" bit, huh? You're not going to convince me that PennDOT crews were working on the Northeast Extension after the sun went down.

FWIW, I had to head down I-476 on Saturday, and I was keeping my eye out for a RedFlexMobile. Didn't see one, and actually slowing down to 55 MPH (the posted Work Zone speed limit) would have gotten me killed. Nobody was going anything even remotely like 55 MPH.
 
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Yeah, so much for the entire "only to be used when it's a active work zone" bit, huh? You're not going to convince me that PennDOT crews were working on the Northeast Extension after the sun went down.

FWIW, I had to head down I-476 on Saturday, and I was keeping my eye out for a RedFlexMobile. Didn't see one, and actually slowing down to 55 MPH (the posted Work Zone speed limit) would have gotten me killed. Nobody was going anything even remotely like 55 MPH.
Yeah sorry, I wasn’t clear. I passed the vehicle twice that day. On the way to work in the morning around 8AM it was set up, parked, and likely tagging people. Work zone was active.

The photos that I attached were on my way home from work around 9PM going southbound. Driver of red flex vehicle was also likely traveling home.

I do not run a radar detector in my winter beater at the moment so cannot confirm if it was running radar. Sounds like these red flex vehicles run radar and not LIDAR so I will correct my earlier post.

Hope this clears things up. It appears that the website is accurate since the day I saw the vehicle, it was marked as being on I476 in the active work zone (which it was).

Also, as someone who drives this stretch every day, can confirm that you cannot go safely below 65MPH in the work zones. Having the protected work zone makes it a bit low of a speed limit in my opinion. From my experience, 90th percentile speed on this road is 80MPH. And work zone is prob 70MPH.


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FWIW: I setup a webpage monitor using "controltower.com" (free for low volume use). It notifies me anytime they change the posted locations of these work zones.

That's good information, but what to do about it is another story entirely.
 

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FWIW: I setup a webpage monitor using "controltower.com" (free for low volume use). It notifies me anytime they change the posted locations of these work zones.

That's good information, but what to do about it is another story entirely.
Link is broken for me.
 

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