At what point is a car TOO slow

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I can say this. I rode a Honda ruckus for years as daily urban commuter. 49cc scooter. It was slow I was WOT all the time. But that thing made realized how slow drivers were. When the light turned green. I was gone. Most of the time. Cars weren’t even close to me. Don’t get me wrong they could have easily ripped by me if they wanted to but they were just slow ass drivers.

Even now. My daily 2 wheeled machine makes only about 10hp. Top speed is about 120kmh. I take it everywhere in and around the city. I’m on the freeways and I have 0 problems merging,keeping up, passing traffic

It’s not that the car that is too slow. It’s the driver of the car that makes it slow
 

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Anything over 6 seconds to 60 is atrociously unbearable
 

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My tuned F150 Ecoboost is 420 hp and 500 ft/lbs torque.
It hauls arse to 60 mph right at 6.0 seconds.
How often do I do that?
Twice a year maybe?
But haul a 8000 travel trailer 6000 miles a year with double the time to reach 60, never in any danger of being slow or underpowered.
Just adjust to the conditions.
It's a matter of perception.
And some vehicles just give a sensation of more fun, power, speed, etc.
While others hide their true speed making it seem lazy or sleepy.
Just buy what makes an enjoyable drive and don't get hung up on actual drag times.
Which tuner package did you buy? Been thinking about this.
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Jsyk as well... if it was a brand new Subaru and it wasn’t broke in then it will drop about half to a full second to 60 once broken in. No clue why... I never pegged my car new but it was a dog when I first bought it...

I only pegged ones I didn’t like...
Good point. The Ascent same way. Took almost 8k mi before it showed this trait. Other cars are same way.
 

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Which tuner package did you buy? Been thinking about this.
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Good point. The Ascent same way. Took almost 8k mi before it showed this trait. Other cars are same way.
5 star tunes.
I wouldn't consider any other.
I went conservative and bought the performance towing tunes for various octane levels.
Plus I got the warranty tunes that I ran the first 5 years so if Ford denied warranty blaming the tunes I was covered by 5 star.
The newest trucks really move with the latest 5 star setups.
Lots on YouTube and Fast Lane Trucks about this.
I would still buy only the towing tunes as they are beastly but reliable.
Performance only tunes is for empty trucks only and not meant for prolonged heavy use like towing up hills and such.
 

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My wife is dealing with this same issue as well. New vehicle shopping, small/mid SUV and everything is grossly under powered for her. She has always driven 'sporty' vehicles so wants to retain that as much as possible. He current small SUV has the v6 and only 10 less HP than my larger SUV! Basically she does not bother too look at anything that is not a v6 or a Turbo as anything else is 'too slow'. If we are interested in the vehicle we just google its performance numbers to see if it is something worth looking at. She is not a speed demon, but being able to safety pass someone or merge on the highway without maxing out the vehicle is something of importance.
 

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My stock Golf R is about as slow as I would want to go. 60-120 matters more to me than 0-60 does and that is where I find real horsepower matters more. My main need is to be able to drop a gear and overtake long chains of left lane hogs quickly, and that requires power. I definitely have to readjust going from my tuned M2 back to the Golf.
 

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A lot of people say 250-300 hp is that magic mark from where you go from momentum car to quick car. I’d tend to agree with that but it also depends on weight.
 

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Really depends on your priorities and how you look at things. I am driving a 1998 Toyota Camry to work 4 times a week. It gets 31 MPG and gets to 60 MPH in about 10+ seconds. Mind you my priorities are to save on gas and maintenance costs with the commute car, not to go Mach 2 with my hair on fire on the way to work.

When I want to go Mach 2 with my hair on fire, I drive my ISF and that gets to 60 around 4.3.

Your lady friend has a few choices if she must get to 60 MPH quicker:

1. Look at a performance SUV (Cayenne Turbo, Jeep SRT 8)

2. Look at a different class of cars (not an SUV), an SUV is to haul kids and gear around................
 

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In my opinion the driver should be able to compensate for the lack of power, it's a skill. Whether the car is 5 second or 9 second is irrelevant unless your planning to tow. Is she planning to use it as a commuter car? The only thing I would consider is the RPM at highway speed. My wife has a Civic that is awesome around town, unfortunately, on the highway the little engine is revving pretty good (70 mph).
Shop instead for a safe car, miserly fuel consumption and reliability. If indeed the owner wants the quickness then that is more than just commuting and more hp is needed.
 

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Drove a stick '97 318ti for a while - 8.something on the best of days, for all intents and purposes 9-10 seconds. Never, ever felt unsafe, it's just that you're mashing the throttle while others are at 50% if you want to get ahead. I'm not complaining as the Ti is a characterful little thing that's fun to wring out, despite being slow.

Unsafe in highway commute conditions would start at like 15 seconds for me. Even so I've driven fully loaded Uhauls and wouldn't say it was unsafe - all in what you're used to and how you drive it. Frustrating because you can't bury the pedal and rip past traffic is a whole different argument.
 

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