are there any cheap or DIY options for laser jamming / shifting

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I'm new and learning lots. I have an older V1 but even with the newest I found that they (and no radar detector) will protect me from laser (in advance to slow down anyway). Here in Alberta (and other provinces) I find laser is the most common tool used for actual speed traps. So now I want to add something to my cars to reduce my reflection to laser (then my V1 will beep but give me time to slow down).

I don't want to spend $1000+ on a modern jammer. I also don't want to spend $100 on a small jar of absorbing paint. I'm quite handy and willing to experiment, so I want to make my own Veil paint, and even my own jammer. Anyone have some good advice on either? Or if not a diy jammer, another have some advice on an older make/model that still works which I can then try to find in the local craigslist or ebay?

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My brother made a laser jammer some years ago. We tested it against Pro Laser (I think). It did work even at very close range. But he gave up on it for packaging reasons and sourcing parts.
The parts issue might not be a problem now with Ali Baba. I'll see if he still has the details of what he did.
One thing that helps a bit is painting your car matt black and blacking out things like headlights and licence plates. But that will create a new set of problems with the law.
 

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I'm new and learning lots. I have an older V1 but even with the newest I found that they (and no radar detector) will protect me from laser (in advance to slow down anyway). Here in Alberta (and other provinces) I find laser is the most common tool used for actual speed traps. So now I want to add something to my cars to reduce my reflection to laser (then my V1 will beep but give me time to slow down).

I don't want to spend $1000+ on a modern jammer. I also don't want to spend $100 on a small jar of absorbing paint. I'm quite handy and willing to experiment, so I want to make my own Veil paint, and even my own jammer. Anyone have some good advice on either? Or if not a diy jammer, another have some advice on an older make/model that still works which I can then try to find in the local craigslist or ebay?

Thanks
Laser Interceptor (now called Laser Shifter Pros) used to be the king prior to the recent and still small nominal threat of VRP lidars. Another decent economy lammer would be Blinder Hp-905s, but i wouldnt get any jammers older than those.

Feel free to PM, for pricing on some older Laser Interceptors or even current used jammers for lower prices.
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I'm new and learning lots. I have an older V1 but even with the newest I found that they (and no radar detector) will protect me from laser (in advance to slow down anyway). Here in Alberta (and other provinces) I find laser is the most common tool used for actual speed traps. So now I want to add something to my cars to reduce my reflection to laser (then my V1 will beep but give me time to slow down).

I don't want to spend $1000+ on a modern jammer. I also don't want to spend $100 on a small jar of absorbing paint. I'm quite handy and willing to experiment, so I want to make my own Veil paint, and even my own jammer. Anyone have some good advice on either? Or if not a diy jammer, another have some advice on an older make/model that still works which I can then try to find in the local craigslist or ebay?

Thanks
I don't want to burst any bubbles, but honestly if there was a solution other than a proper jammer we would all have it. Sadly such a product doent exsist at this time, there have been attempts in the past but against modern lidar they don't work... newer guns can get a reading off any surface, not just headlights or plates so you would have to some how defend all surfaces which makes any coating very difficult. now depending on what guns you face you might be able to deal with an older laser interceptor or blinder system... but a lot of places in canada use dragoneye and other VPR which is not fully or not at all supported by older jammers (and is the reason many of them kinda stoppped updating the firmware). The modern lidar guns are not simple in any way, even some of the best jammers out there struggle to handle them consistently, building any DIY system will take a tremendouns amount of money as there are a ton of guns out there you would need to test and measure to make sure your jammer can work with them otherwise you will only have a partial protection and overconfidence. Trust me, I was there too... spending a lot of cash is tough, but after only one or two saves it will have paid for itself having a system that may or may not work doesn't give you any real comfort cause the "what if" is still out there. you can get deals in the for sale section here (which you can get into at 50 posts) you can geta deal on a TMG or used TMG or used ALP system and have something that is pretty capable for less than $1000. over time you can add more sensors as money allows and need dictates.
 

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In Alberta I would opt for ALP. There’s no point in buying something that won’t work in your area.

When you see stalker and dragoneye mounted on tripods, VPR protection is mandatory.
 

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They don't simply emit light. I'm not sure how much to elaborate at this level. There are videos that someone can provide I imagine.
 

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"are there any cheap or DIY options for laser jamming / shifting"
NO.
 

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I found a escort shifter zr3 locally for sale - it is new in box (never used) and guy wants $120 CDN. Would there be any benefit with this, or is this now obsolete tech much like me buying an dvd player today. I believe in Calgary they use Dragoneye (VPR), so I believe this ZR3 will be pointless but want some advice from others too. If it will add protection, is $120 good? Would I need any additional equipment to connect to the unit, or are these usually stand-alone?
 

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A used older system can be had for a few hundred. Escort LaserShifter Pro for $200 to $400, Laser Interceptor HP heads (v8.9 and v9.0) for $200 to $400, or used TMG A-15 systems for $400 to $800.

You will need to know what makes and models of LIDAR are used in the areas you drive. There are some LIDAR devices that the Escort LaserShifter Pro and Laser Interceptor won't be able to help you with. If such advanced LIDAR isn't used in your area, then it may be worth it to you to look into one of the above systems.
 

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If you you only face non VPR guns and want to buy one to play around with or mess with stuff just for fun, buying an older unit or whatever is fine but if you face VPR and actually want to protect yourself against that, especially where close distance shots are commonplace, you need to buy ALP.

I'm not in Canada, but many on the forums are, and we've all heard what they face. A jammer is truly your last line of defense after Waze, brake lights and your own eyes and situational awareness. Because of this, you need it to work when it's up to bat as if you've failed at all the other layers of defense, you're gonna get a ticket when a jammer doesn't work. In many cases, a jammer will pay for itself in 1 save. Mine did.

If it's about the money. Just wait and watch the classifieds to piece a system together. That's how I was able to afford my ALP's. I also have TMG which works great in my area, but for now I wouldn't recommend it where close range DragonEye shots are commonplace.
 
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I found a escort shifter zr3 locally for sale - it is new in box (never used) and guy wants $120 CDN. Would there be any benefit with this, or is this now obsolete tech much like me buying an dvd player today. I believe in Calgary they use Dragoneye (VPR), so I believe this ZR3 will be pointless but want some advice from others too.
I wouldn't buy the ZR3 at all. It's many generations out of date, and would be a waste of money. Escort later came out with the ZR4, then the Laser Shifter Pro, and now is on the ZR5, their branded variant of the Blinder HP-905 Compact.

Would I need any additional equipment to connect to the unit, or are these usually stand-alone?
The Laser Interceptor, TMG-A15, Blinder HP-905 Compact, can all be used standalone.
 

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Begin acquiring an ALP 2RX1TX front&rear setup if you are serious about this. Otherwise you’re buying “dvd players”

Their VPR guns will eat through the cheap stuff.
 

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If you you only face non VPR guns and want to buy one to play around with or mess with stuff just for fun, buying an older unit or whatever is fine but if you face VPR and actually want to protect yourself against that, especially where close distance shots are commonplace, you need to buy ALP.

I'm not in Canada, but many on the forums are, and we've all heard what they face. A jammer is truly your last line of defense after Waze, brake lights and your own eyes and situational awareness. Because of this, you need it to work when it's up to bat as if you've failed at all the other layers of defense, you're gonna get a ticket when a jammer doesn't work. In many cases, a jammer will pay for itself in 1 save. Mine did.

If it's about the money. Just wait and watch the classifieds to piece a system together. That's how I was able to afford my ALP's. I also have TMG which works great in my area, but for now I wouldn't recommend it where close range DragonEye shots are commonplace.
I second this. There is an ALP hw2 CPU for $100 from @BestRadarDetectors. I bought one and I'm going to slowly build a system up.
 

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@DanDaMan Where in Alberta?

If you only drive in Calgary then i believe it is mostly ultralyte, which can be jammed by many older jammers. but outside limits the RCMP has everything. You will need ALP to be 100% immune.

If you consider the cost of a decent Ticket at ~400CAD and increased insurance (thats how ICBC rolls atleast) A single ticket costs the entire price of a brand new ALP setup. Many of us have had our LJ's pay for themselves ten times over.

I dont mean to come across as rude, but
..I don't want to spend $1000+ on a modern jammer. I also don't want to spend $100 on a small jar of absorbing paint...
Then just dont speed. Or try and rely on VVaze / Highbeams.
 

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I found a escort shifter zr3 locally for sale - it is new in box (never used) and guy wants $120 CDN. Would there be any benefit with this, or is this now obsolete tech much like me buying an dvd player today. I believe in Calgary they use Dragoneye (VPR), so I believe this ZR3 will be pointless but want some advice from others too. If it will add protection, is $120 good? Would I need any additional equipment to connect to the unit, or are these usually stand-alone?
You have asked several times and gotten sound advice each time. You have also posted examples of "cheap" used jammers for sale hoping someone I guess will tell you what you want to hear. Here is the bottom line, GOOD JAMMERS AIN"T CHEAP...…...AND CHEAP JAMMERS AIN"T GOOD. That sums it up right there.

If it's just not in your budget now you might have to watch your speed and rely on WAZE. Then save up for like 6 months and find out what the most reasonably priced newer system is that covers your threats. This might be your best option if you face a lot of laser.
 

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