Stealth REDFLEX beats Redline EX

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Devonport (Auckland) was visited by a new Redflex mobile van this weekend. (Metallic green Volkswagen Transporter) and I followed it across two spots. .

Anywho, my recently replaced Redline Ex couldn't pick it up at any range! Excuse the amateur film taking.

...for the RD that was best able to spot Redflex... maybe they are using something new in these newer vans?!

What's the point? ...


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Devonport (Auckland) was visited by a new Redflex mobile van this weekend. (Metallic green Volkswagen Transporter) and I followed it across two spots. .

Anywho, my recently replaced Redline Ex couldn't pick it up at any range! Excuse the amateur film taking.

...for the RD that was best able to spot Redflex... maybe they are using something new in these newer vans?!

What's the point? ...


Keen for your thoughts

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Redflex is usually really low power kband. So I would try turning off some kband filtering, turn off TSF and make sure you have the kband sensitivity as high as possible (highway mode) and all kband segments enabled. Even with it wide open and maxed out on sensitivity you probably will only get a few hundred feet of alert at best. There was some testing against fixed pole mounted reflex cameras down there a few years back if I recall... If you dig around you might find it.
 

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Is this location not in Escort Live Database?
 

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Hmmmm.....
Hope this isn't the same as the new one that's arrived in Oz lately. Please test. You'll be doing a huge favour.
Try mounting the detector vertically as well.
 

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Redflex is usually really low power kband. So I would try turning off some kband filtering, turn off TSF and make sure you have the kband sensitivity as high as possible (highway mode) and all kband segments enabled. Even with it wide open and maxed out on sensitivity you probably will only get a few hundred feet of alert at best. There was some testing against fixed pole mounted reflex cameras down there a few years back if I recall... If you dig around you might find it.
Thanks yeah was on Highway with no filters on. Still ... nothing..

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There's no point. They move around, never more than 3 or so hours in one place.
Waze works better.
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Devonport (Auckland) was visited by a new Redflex mobile van this weekend. (Metallic green Volkswagen Transporter) and I followed it across two spots. .

Anywho, my recently replaced Redline Ex couldn't pick it up at any range! Excuse the amateur film taking.

...for the RD that was best able to spot Redflex... maybe they are using something new in these newer vans?!

What's the point? ...


Keen for your thoughts

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Was it transmitting? Did you see him do the set up when he stopped?
 
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There's no point. They move around, never more than 3 or so hours in one place.
Waze works better.
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Was it transmitting? Did you see him do the set up when he stopped?
Assume it was transmitting.

I checked first location twice over an hour. Nothing.

Second location 3 times in 5 minutes and a fourth time 30 mins later. All stealth.

Guy must have figured what I was doing.



Nah no visual on set up. Dude must have a toilet in there too... lol

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Ah ok. Mobile van. Yes that a tough one. You really need max sensitivity on for that and may still come up short.
I agree. Waze is really useless against mobile traps like that.
All our MRCD traps are like that. 2 hours max then move to another location.
The Pro-M does have speed camera locations downloaded into its data base, but the trap locations are so numerous where I am, it would never shut up.
I’d rather have the detector pick up the radar signal and let me know he’s there now, rather than alerting me that it could be there.

It’s more of a thing probably because of where I am and the amount of enforcement locations. Last report was there were 500 + advertised MRCD locations in my city of 1 million.

The R-EX has finished near the bottom end on most of my Low power modulated testing in distance between the Pro-M, R3, R7, R-EX, but it’s more consistent than the R3, and R7 on identifying it correctly.

The Pro-M is the top choice for these types of threats across the board. Even then, it’s hit and miss. Unfortunately I can’t test against Redflex...... yet. The way this city is run, having it show up eventually wouldn’t surprise me in the least one day.
 

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I agree. Waze is really useless against mobile traps like that.
All our MRCD traps are like that. 2 hours max then move to another location.
The Pro-M does have speed camera locations downloaded into its data base, but the trap locations are so numerous where I am, it would never shut up.
I’d rather have the detector pick up the radar signal and let me know he’s there now, rather than alerting me that it could be there.

It’s more of a thing probably because of where I am and the amount of enforcement locations. Last report was there were 500 + advertised MRCD locations in my city of 1 million.

The R-EX has finished near the bottom end on most of my Low power modulated testing in distance between the Pro-M, R3, R7, R-EX, but it’s more consistent than the R3, and R7 on identifying it correctly.

The Pro-M is the top choice for these types of threats across the board. Even then, it’s hit and miss. Unfortunately I can’t test against Redflex...... yet. The way this city is run, having it show up eventually wouldn’t surprise me in the least one day.
Yeah I'll give it to the Establishment.. the redflex is an effective tool we can't seem to detect accurately, with enough notice, to achieve the freedoms we are seeking.


But would be boring otherwise, right?!

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These Redflex vans in NZ use low power and low range Ka band. The only unit I have found that provides the low range and sufficient detection sensitivity against these is a Uniden R7. When these are (preferably) vertically mounted they will alert 200-300m before the kill zone.

After trying another capable DFR7 unit, whilst it can detect Reflex it isn't quite powerful/sensitive enough to save you in enough time, every time. Hope this helps.
 
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These Redflex vans in NZ use low power and low range Ka band. The only unit I have found that provides the low range and sufficient detection sensitivity against these is a Uniden R7. When these are (preferably) vertically mounted they will alert 200-300m before the kill zone.

After trying another capable DFR7 unit, whilst it can detect Reflex it isn't quite powerful/sensitive enough to save you in enough time, every time. Hope this helps.
This thing's just difficult.
Anything that warns is better than nothing I guess, even if it's half the time hit and miss. Shame the R7 isn't stealth.
Really sucks thinking about the people who've thought long and hard, saved their pennies to by a detector, ran it in the car and had zero luck against it and footed hundreds of dollars thinking they've got this one worked out. I've almost done this myself, teetering on the edge of buying something, but the results aren't quite there on this cam. Dfr7 is quite cheap compared to some though and has a go at least. Most people probably pass on it due to it not being expensive and a little older.
If I wanted to play around I'd still buy this though. I just wouldn't take it as gospel and be happy with what it can do as it is for its price point.
Someone will crack this cam one day. It's worth it just for the glory and stats.
Have to remember, the cam is probably worth thousands of dollars, and people want to get one over it for a couple of hundred.
 
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I don’t believe Redflex is Ka band? I’ve never heard of this. @dudeinnz ? @winterbrew ?

Another city close to me does use Redflex. It’s K band and it’s down low in the frequency scale. 24.090 and lower.

Redflex in Arizona was k band recorded at 24.029 by @Mad Hatter i believe

MRCT uses 3 low powered modulated K band channels.
MRCD uses 4
The Mesta Fusion has 6 rapidly changing K band frequencies that today’s detectors can barely catch, and mostly catch wrong.

Im not sure about the international DFR7, but I know the successor DFR9 can not scan below 24.050. Neither can the R3.

Any frequency of this Ka your seeing?
 

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Radenso sp xp pro M can as well. Redline is supposed to as well - AUS /NZ versions.
Detectors that hit the 23. range from my understanding are pickable, but even then, hit and miss, and add the fact you may want stealth leaves slim choice. I honestly cannot find anything I feel justifies me parting with money except possibly a number plate blocker of some sort. Probably get in less trouble if caught doing that as well.
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Lol wonder if radenso ticket free guarantee warrants them basically just sending me a free pro m and we'll call it payment in advance on this one haha! Wish they could sort this one out. Is the ticket free guarantee valid in New Zealand and Australia in Redflexville? I'd only be allowed 3 or 4 though then I'll loose my licence. That said, if I buy a pro m for $1000, in 4 fines I could clock up $2000 easy so therefore I'm getting a free detector and $1000+ right? Sounds like a sweet deal (I thought this was hilarious)! @Jon at Radenso :cashwallet:
 
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Thanks yeah was on Highway with no filters on. Still ... nothing..

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Not likely issue... double check and see if any cruise alert speed is on. should be off.
 

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I don’t believe Redflex is Ka band? I’ve never heard of this. @dudeinnz ? @winterbrew ?
Definitely K band only

Im not sure about the international DFR7, but I know the successor DFR9 can not scan below 24.050. Neither can the R3.
Apparently DFR7NZ firmware lowers the K band scan range (coming soon to a DFR7 US near you !)

 
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Not likely issue... double check and see if any cruise alert speed is on. should be off.
Will check.

How does cruise speed alert change sensitivity to redflex?

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Were you only using Seg1 for K band or scanning the entire band? Maybe this camera was set higher above 24.110 range and Seg2 was needed for detection.
 

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Assume it was transmitting.

I checked first location twice over an hour. Nothing.

Second location 3 times in 5 minutes and a fourth time 30 mins later. All stealth.

Guy must have figured what I was doing.



Nah no visual on set up. Dude must have a toilet in there too... lol

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OK, I misunderstood. I thought you followed him to the site.
Although I have passed vans that were not transmitting for some reason.
The old analogue cameras used to get turned off to save film, but that's not an issue with Redflex.
 

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