old V1 (~15 yrs old) - want advice on firmware, upgrades, and ability

DanDaMan

Learning to Drive
General User
Joined
Oct 19, 2019
Messages
16
Reaction score
8
I have an old V1 which is about 15 years old and has never been upgraded. I haven't used it much in the last 8 years but want to start using it again regularly. Based on the firmware, I'd like to know what it can do in today's world of radar, and also if I were to upgrade what is involved? Are there any free firmware upgrades available which I can do myself, or does everything need to be sent to the company to upgrade? My serial is 4615450805

thx
 

InsipidMonkey

Premium Monkey
Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
Mar 22, 2017
Messages
6,103
Reaction score
12,520
Location
New England
Welcome to RDF!

A V1 that old might still be OK on Ka band, but has no K band filtering and will be unusable with K band enabled. The official upgrade path would have you send the detector in and they would send you a brand new detector, but V1s are currently out of stock so hardware upgrades are unavailable.

Where are you located? Depending on the region you drive in you may be able to get by with Ka only.

Your best bet is either to hold onto the detector to send in for an upgrade once V1s are available again, or sell your detector somewhere like eBay. Outside of North America the older V1s are still very popular and have held their resale value quite well.
 

DanDaMan

Learning to Drive
General User
Joined
Oct 19, 2019
Messages
16
Reaction score
8
I'm in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. What are the common bands used in Canada? Is K band the same as laser? I have been using it for the last few months and it still detects cops on the highway when the cars have their radar on, and when going through speed traps I find the radar will do a funny short beep when the radar is pointed directly at me (doesn't give me a huge heads up well in advance, but still detects). Here in Alberta they also use speed cameras on traffic lights and parked cars - the V1 also detects those.

But based on your reply, sounds like mine is quite outdated and not really that useful in North America. I'll look to see what the value is on ebay, though would rather hold onto it and see what I can do myself to upgrade (if anything)
 

BlueV1

We are all in this together.
Advanced User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
Feb 8, 2016
Messages
3,810
Reaction score
7,288
Location
Western NC
You might find that a different brand of detector would be better suited to your area. If you are looking at $289 or more for an upgrade anyway, you might spend that money on a unit that detects what you encounter there. :)
 

InsipidMonkey

Premium Monkey
Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
Mar 22, 2017
Messages
6,103
Reaction score
12,520
Location
New England

BaileyAB

Whats PSL? Autobahn bro, A.U.T.O.B.A.H.N.!!!!!
Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
May 31, 2014
Messages
1,657
Reaction score
3,123
Location
Alberta, Canada
Often:
Ka 34.7 Ghz
Laser

Less often:
Ka 35.5 Ghz
K 24.150 Ghz

Extremely rare Ka 33.8 Ghz

Never encountered X 10.5 Ghz (outdated)
Post automatically merged:

Is K band the same as laser?
Its completely different technology.
Post automatically merged:

when going through speed traps I find the radar will do a funny short beep when the radar is pointed directly at me (doesn't give me a huge heads up well in advance, but still detects).
Almost all speed traps today use laser only. If you get a short blip than thats a laser alert so it means cop already got your speed. Its not a heads up but a ticket notifier.
Post automatically merged:

Speed cams in calgary dont use radae nor laser based tech so your v1 is detecting something in vicinity. Photo radar vehicles use Redflex k band radar frequency n v1 can detects it but struggles in range just like every other detector.
Post automatically merged:

When paired with JBV1 app and updated to latest FW, V1 is a beast.
Highly recommend.
 
Last edited:

LouG

PSL +5
Intermediate User
Joined
Jan 2, 2014
Messages
2,777
Reaction score
3,007
Almost all speed traps today use laser only. If you get a short blip than thats a laser alert so it means cop already got your speed. Its not a heads up but a ticket notifier.
It can be, but but it could also be scatter, which I've had a couple of saves from. I don't rely on it, but it happens.
I've even had a save with Mk 1 eyeballs, I saw the cop tagging traffic and slowed before he tagged me.
Absolutist statements can be misleading.
 

DanDaMan

Learning to Drive
General User
Joined
Oct 19, 2019
Messages
16
Reaction score
8
so I checked the version, and I have 3.825 which looks like that means it has the latest hardware version of 1.8. Can someone tell me then what my version is good for, and what it is missing. Is the missing stuff valuable, or just fluff. Now that I know the version, I basically just want to know if it is good for detecting all the modern radar tools used by police, or is it missing something fundamental.

Also, someone mentioned that cops commonly use laser in Alberta for speed traps - my radar gives a short beep when I get hit, but it never gives me a heads up in advance - when it beeps it means the cops have my speed. Will a more updated version give me a heads up for laser? If not, is there any other make/model of detector that is good at laser?

Thanks
 

BaileyAB

Whats PSL? Autobahn bro, A.U.T.O.B.A.H.N.!!!!!
Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
May 31, 2014
Messages
1,657
Reaction score
3,123
Location
Alberta, Canada
my radar gives a short beep when I get hit
What kind of beep? Also why do you think or how do you know you get hit when you hear beep?
When you get a direct hit, V1 bars on any alert will always go full blast so a beep is something unfamiliar with me. Do you know what red light gets illuminated when you hear the alert on V1?
X, Ka, K, or L(laser)?

3.825 is not the latest hardware in 1.8.
check this link and see where your v1 stands. I would definitely update it and acquire Bluetooth module to pair it with JBV1.
V1 versions thru years

Its missing crystal tuning, yours might be out of tune, it doesnt have any sort of K band filtering (Junk K Fighter) so K band alerts are probably almost constantly going off. It does not have ESP, so it means you cant custom sweep it or connect it to your phone. Its basically a 50% in performance of an up to date V1 3.8952.
 
Last edited:

DanDaMan

Learning to Drive
General User
Joined
Oct 19, 2019
Messages
16
Reaction score
8
so looking at the update sheet, mine is missing Junk K Fighter, TMF2 for blind spot vehicles, ESP, Traffic Monitor Filter, and Crystal Tuning added.

I don't think I need the blind spot feature. I believe ESP is the ability to link to my phone which I don't think I need. Yes Junk K Fighter would be nice to eliminate all the nuisance alarms but I can live with the junk being when they are real they usually are stronger plus when on a highway (especially remote) there are few junk K warnings (most are real - cops). what is traffic monitor and crystal tuning?

Can someone also please let me know if my version detects laser, and if not does the udpated version detect laser.

I got a ticket about 6 months ago using the V1. I went through a radar trap - the V1 gave a short bleep (kind of like when you first turn it on if I recall). Didn't give me though any advance notice - so when it went off I was immediately being pulled over. I've noticed this same beep going through other radar traps - just gives me one short beep immediately as I get hit - I want to know if there is anything I can do with mine to actually give me an advance warning for these. If the V1 can't detect laser, is there any other make/model that can.
 

InsipidMonkey

Premium Monkey
Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
Mar 22, 2017
Messages
6,103
Reaction score
12,520
Location
New England
If your version is pre-crystal tuning, there is a very real chance it has gone out of tune and will need to be serviced. In this case, the detector may not alert to real threats within the frequency range it was designed to work, and/or only give short late alerts like you describe once the signal gets strong enough to overdrive the detector.

The fact that you don't see many K band falses with no filtering is another dead giveaway something is wrong with your detector.

Unfortunately since there are no V1s in stock, there are no current upgrade possibilities for your detector. I'd recommend finding something else in the meantime since it sounds like you are currently unprotected.

You could always give VR a call and see what they say.
 

BaileyAB

Whats PSL? Autobahn bro, A.U.T.O.B.A.H.N.!!!!!
Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
May 31, 2014
Messages
1,657
Reaction score
3,123
Location
Alberta, Canada
I went through a radar trap - the V1 gave a short bleep (kind of like when you first turn it on if I recall).
I think your short bleep is laser alert.
Anyway, any detector is good as their owners knowledge of it and understanding radar/laser principles and techniques used by police enforcement.
You can to the right place since I feel you need a lot of knowledge to gain regarding everything around radar.
Until you do and either update your V1 or get another unit, I would advise you not to speed because you are risking it a lot.

Here are some helpful links outside of RDF.


RDF:


cheers
 

DanDaMan

Learning to Drive
General User
Joined
Oct 19, 2019
Messages
16
Reaction score
8
OK, done some reading to get myself more familiar with radar in general. When I first got this 15 years ago I lived in Vancouver and thought it was a plug and play item (no need to know anything about radar - just plug in and be safe). After reading, I see that no radar detector will protect you from laser (including the V1 even with the latest firmware) - all will just beep once you have been hit by the light beam but then its too late. So that being said, my V1 works great for Ka and would save me from K except as mentioned I get tons of false alarms on my commute making it pointless. My question - without a firmware upgrade, is there any settings I can do to improve it at all - cause if I can't then I'll turn K off and just use it for Ka.

As for laser, I'm going to make some absorbent paint and look into making a diy jammer - I'll start a new post for advice on that.

Thanks
 

BlueV1

We are all in this together.
Advanced User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
Feb 8, 2016
Messages
3,810
Reaction score
7,288
Location
Western NC
Before you get into that, read up on current lidar stuff here. Paint no longer works. There is a lot more secret sauce involved in jamming lidar these days too. No point in re-inventing the wheel. :)
 

BaileyAB

Whats PSL? Autobahn bro, A.U.T.O.B.A.H.N.!!!!!
Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
May 31, 2014
Messages
1,657
Reaction score
3,123
Location
Alberta, Canada
OK, done some reading to get myself more familiar with radar in general. When I first got this 15 years ago I lived in Vancouver and thought it was a plug and play item (no need to know anything about radar - just plug in and be safe). After reading, I see that no radar detector will protect you from laser (including the V1 even with the latest firmware) - all will just beep once you have been hit by the light beam but then its too late. So that being said, my V1 works great for Ka and would save me from K except as mentioned I get tons of false alarms on my commute making it pointless. My question - without a firmware upgrade, is there any settings I can do to improve it at all - cause if I can't then I'll turn K off and just use it for Ka.

As for laser, I'm going to make some absorbent paint and look into making a diy jammer - I'll start a new post for advice on that.

Thanks
Congrats on reading up stuff and understanding what most dont understand even after few months. Way to go.
You can turn off K band and run Ka and Laser only. Try like this but if any of police cruisers run K band radar your V1 will not alert you.

Just to compare, updated V1 3.8952 paired with JBV1 will only give you 1-2 false k band alerts in 90-120 minutes of highway driving mostly on newest Mazda models. So silent with latest fw and JBV1. Driving in city, I am almost always amazed how silent it is even around tons of other cars on the road.
Check Vortex'es latest review about V1 + JBV1.
Incredible review, dead on what I think about V1 + JBV1. Just watch it and enjoy what kind of platform master piece you have in your hands.

Regarding laser jammer DIY, there s much more than simple over exposing lidar gun with return beam. Once you advance through RDF levels you will understand way more than at this point but you are on the great path to learn lots from this forum. Just keep interacting and reading up posts. I would advise you not to waste your time on LJ DIY stuff. Just go with any of top 3 laser jammer systems (ALP, TMG or Escort). I would personally suggest ALP since its proven to be the best for 5 years already, however TMG as a cheaper option is showing signs it overcame few obstacles in regarding jamming some of the toughest guns out there but more testing is needed to confirm this respectively and Escorts ZR5 jammers however Escort products can be very tricky to deal with like all of the sudden there s no customer support, no FW support, you need to buy new product in order to keep being protected etc.).

welcome
 

LouG

PSL +5
Intermediate User
Joined
Jan 2, 2014
Messages
2,777
Reaction score
3,007
I have to second the silence. It's unnatural, since I've started using lockouts. I can see the sods faintly, but not a peep.
 

FlyNavy

Learning to Drive
General User
Joined
Dec 26, 2018
Messages
16
Reaction score
6
The one thing you can do is send the unit to Valentine for tuning.

Prior to the latest models, I’d send my unit once a year for tuning. It made a huge difference in range detection.

I would send the unit in a box with a note asking for a tune. I think I added a prepaid return label as well. There was never a charge and Valentine was quick to tune it and get it back to me.

About a year ago I emailed Valentine if tuning was still available, they said it was, but, latest units (which I own) don’t require tuning.

Sorry if I’m repeating what someone else has already shared; I only had time to skim the post.
 

Discord Server

Latest threads

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
79,123
Messages
1,204,715
Members
20,088
Latest member
SVRftw
Top