BUSTED. 98 in a 45 zone in florida

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Happened in the z06. Not on the bike. Officer was pretty cool considering the circumstances. I am a "safe" driver according to my license and I have hired one of the best lawyers I could find and have no prior criminal record or speeding convictions. The lawyer said he is confident he can get it thrown out. The citation says I was busted with a Stalker Radar gun but my top of the line escort max 360c radar detector never went off (until the officer was right there looking at my license and it was going off crazily right in front of him which looked so disrespectful). The officer said I will get a court date in the mail but the lawyer will go on my behalf. Violation of section 316.187 in the state of florida. Anyone else ever dealt with this before?
 

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You did the right thing to lawyer up.

It's definitely worth looking into how this happened. While I/O can get the best of us, there's a better than good chance this wasn't I/O if the officer left his gun on during the pullover.

Do you have video of the incident and what was the band/frequency of the gun?

Oh and see if you qualify for the poorly (or not so poorly) phrased "ticket guarantee" from Escort:

 
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Also in which county did this occur in? I had a similar issue in Polk County.
 

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Right near me actually! You should have a lot better luck getting out of that than I did. Polk is the worst county in the state to get such a ticket in from what I have seen.
It is definitely possible the LEO used I/O and the Escort did not detect it in time and then swapped it to C/O when engaging in pursuit (and even if he did not, he can claim as such). I would not bank on that technicality but rather hope your lawyer can make a deal or the officer does not show up (If the LEO is FHP, that is quite common).
 

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If he did indeed use radar, what settings are you running on the 360c (kband on, segmentation, filtering etc)? The terrain down here is pretty easy so it shouldn't have been a case of not seeing it. If you can post a copy of the ticket with your personal info covered, we may be able to tell.from any serial number info written which gun it was, it might have been stalker lidar too... I suppose it's possible this was the 360 sleeping bug showing up as well....
 

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my top of the line escort max 360c radar detector never went off (until the officer was right there looking at my license and it was going off crazily right in front of him which looked so disrespectful).
I think a lot of us would like to know more details about this exactly! When did the unit 1st start to alert? Based on what you said it sounds like it was silent then suddenly started to alert when the LEO was at your window with his vehicle behind you, correct?

Did you happen to notice the arrows/direction of the source?

Best of luck with the ticket.
 

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Unfortunately the Escort 360c has a known problem of sometimes falling "to sleep" & not alarming/Alerting to an incoming radar signal. Your best bet at this point is for the Atty to cut a good deal for you.
 

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Unfortunately the Escort 360c has a known problem of sometimes falling "to sleep" & not alarming/Alerting to an incoming radar signal. Your best bet at this point is for the Atty to cut a good deal for you.
Doubt it fell asleep. That’s my biggest fear with the 360 platform and hopefully latest firmware update took care of that. But reason it didn’t fall asleep is that he said it went off like crazy when he was pulled over. When folks reported a sleeping detector it remained sleeping until power was interrupted and the RD rebooted. That didn’t happen here.
 

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Sorry to hear that man. I'd call escort and send your detector in to them for an inspection. Including your power cord if you were using the original power cord.
 
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im surprised it was going crazy when you were stopped. Do you not have the speed setting set below a certain speed to mute?
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also, "Top of the Line" did you add that or does it really say that on the escort package?
 
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im surprised it was going crazy when you were stopped. Do you not have the speed setting set below a certain speed to mute?
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also, "Top of the Line" did you add that or does it really say that on the escort package?
That was a funny statement. I am assuming he means the most expensive windshield mount detector by Escort. I think it went a little wonky wonky and it missed the I/O shot. I think he needs a top of the line Uniden detector if he is getting a lot of I/O issues, but I don't know of his situation. Hopefully it will be thrown out.
 

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That was a funny statement. I am assuming he means the most expensive windshield mount detector by Escort. I think it went a little wonky wonky and it missed the I/O shot. I think he needs a top of the line Uniden detector if he is getting a lot of I/O issues, but I don't know of his situation. Hopefully it will be thrown out.
agreed, if he wants to replace a detector every 2 years go for the Uniden.
 

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But reason it didn’t fall asleep is that he said it went off like crazy when he was pulled over.
Actually that is NOT what he said - "escort max 360c radar detector never went off (until the officer was right there looking at my license and it was going off crazily right in front of him"

There is no way the OP would have not muted the RD as he was being pulled over or when he was walking up.

I inquired with a few additional questions. I am curious if it went from nothing to full blast when it did go off or if there was a ramp up. I would like to exclude the possibility of another LEO with C/O possibly driving past at the time he was getting his ticket.

We do not know exactly how this 'sleeping bug' behaves and Escort had been silent on it, even when I tagged them giving them details and asking if there was anything I could do to help - no public messages and no private messages.

I don't want to jump the gun and call this a sleeping issue yet as we do still need more info, but the way it acted seems very odd from the bit of information we do have as of now.
 

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agreed, if he wants to replace a detector every 2 years go for the Uniden.
Lol, I really wish Uniden went for denser plastic that was not squeaky. I think that would have made for a solid feeling detector. Hopefully this one lasts longer than 2 years. Hopefully there is a new V2 and I would definitely get that. Lets see what the future holds.
 

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Happened in the z06. Not on the bike. Officer was pretty cool considering the circumstances. I am a "safe" driver according to my license and I have hired one of the best lawyers I could find and have no prior criminal record or speeding convictions. The lawyer said he is confident he can get it thrown out. The citation says I was busted with a Stalker Radar gun but my top of the line escort max 360c radar detector never went off (until the officer was right there looking at my license and it was going off crazily right in front of him which looked so disrespectful). The officer said I will get a court date in the mail but the lawyer will go on my behalf. Violation of section 316.187 in the state of florida. Anyone else ever dealt with this before?
Unless you were out west on Lox Rd, or somewhere in extreme western Broward County, you deserve the ticket.
100mph in a 45mph in Broward is reckless, I don't care what you're driving.
 

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Unless you were out west on Lox Rd, or somewhere in extreme western Broward County, you deserve the ticket.
100mph in a 45mph in Broward is reckless, I don't care what you're driving.
On sample and 441 in coral springs
 

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@desibaba - I'm not sure when you bought your detector or if you bought it directly from Escort or not, but you may want to look into if you're covered by their ticket free guarantee. I'd wait until after your lawyer works on your case first, then afterwords see if Escort will cover any remaining fines.

 

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Actually that is NOT what he said - "escort max 360c radar detector never went off (until the officer was right there looking at my license and it was going off crazily right in front of him"

There is no way the OP would have not muted the RD as he was being pulled over or when he was walking up.

I inquired with a few additional questions. I am curious if it went from nothing to full blast when it did go off or if there was a ramp up. I would like to exclude the possibility of another LEO with C/O possibly driving past at the time he was getting his ticket.

We do not know exactly how this 'sleeping bug' behaves and Escort had been silent on it, even when I tagged them giving them details and asking if there was anything I could do to help - no public messages and no private messages.

I don't want to jump the gun and call this a sleeping issue yet as we do still need more info, but the way it acted seems very odd from the bit of information we do have as of now.
When my GT360 fell asleep on a prior firmware version- several times at that- I noticed it would not respond to K band (my Pocket Radar), known X-band spots in town, or laser falses from my iPhone. Didn't have Ka to confirm it wouldn't alert to that too, but suspect it wouldn't have picked that up, and FWIW I never received a Ka signal when it was eerily silent and asleep. So though I could be wrong, if he had his detector going off as he says, then it wouldn't be the same sleep issue most have reported here. Still, there could be a spectrum of different variants of RD "sleep disorders" to speak of, and for all we know, this was even the loud lockup type of issue- don't believe the OP said whether or not it stopped alerting on its own. Finally, I always thought one possible solution Escort could have had would be to post a subroutine that would automatically restart the unit if it sensed an internal error, eg fell asleep. In that case, if he was running such an updated firmware, I suppose it's conceivable it did fall asleep and then restarted itself after he was pulled over. But that's a stretch and would be an unfortunate coincidence. Too many unknown variables and would need to know more, from OP (e.g. when exactly did the RD start alerting) and from ER (e.g. what exactly was fixed in latest FW update).

And I have to say if OP was really going that fast- more than double the speed-limit- then he's lucky to have just gotten a ticket and that nothing else happened. Like jail time, or worse, a crash. At 100mph, with other cars going 45mph, it wouldn't have been good for anyone involved and reaction time would have been exceedingly short.
 
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