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Hello All,

This is my first post and could use some help on a new system. Since i'm moving from one of the most relaxed states in the US to one of the most enforced states, I figured it may be wise to join the forum to receive some helpful advise! I've been reading up on the forum looking for useful info and have found a good bit. However, i'm still stuck on how to best prioritize my purchases and am overwelmed with the options and unique situation of the MD/VA/DC area. I've had a 9500ix for about 5 years now but i know this will not be enough where i'm headed so I purchased the RL-EX and am waiting for it to arrive. I'm surprised to see the lack of good reviews for the detector so now i'm nervous it wasn't a good buy. Everything i've seen with MD seems to heavily Recommend LJ's but I'm not sure if i have the adaquate budget to go for a complete custom install in one go. So i guess my questions are:

1. I'd like a unified system so i'm assuming the best one i've seen would be the RC-M with ALP? Or would an RL-EX with the ZR5's be enough?
2. Which counter measures would you recommend purchasing for the MD/VA/DC area?
3. If you could only budget around $1500 at a time, which components would you consider the top priority?
4. What other things should i be considering that i'm not?
 

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If you are looking for an install I would do the rcm, and the alps are the best, they are a little pricey once you get all the stuff it needs. If you want a windshield detector I would go with the prom and if you want the I guess " 2nd best " good against all the guns except DE under 300 to 400 ish feet the TMG system. The redline is ok and stealth, but the pro is almost stealth and has better performance imo.
 

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Yea if i went with the ALP, i'd have to start out with a barebones system with the 2 front sensors and part of me feels that wouldn't be enough.
 

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Yea if i went with the ALP, i'd have to start out with a barebones system with the 2 front sensors and part of me feels that wouldn't be enough.
could get something that will be enough protection to get you buy until you can save up enough money to upgrade or until maybe a fw update comes out to get you the 99% protection. There will always be some way to beat any system. I think @PY004 and @RedRocket can just about punch thru any system made, but in reality those scenarios dont happen much if any
 

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Going to MD myself soon and afraid that I might bring my FL driving habits with me so I’m a little concerned as I will have zero protection other than Waze.
 

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I live in MD. My advice is to spend your money on a good RD first and use VVaze. Do the jammers later if you feel the need. Your biggest issue here is going to be all the MRCD camera systems.
 

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Welcome. Def the speed cameras are a pain.

Esp around school zones and two lane + two lane roads that seem to 55, but everyone is going 35 for a reason.
 

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welcome to the forum
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welcome to the forum
 

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Living here in the Devil's Triangle (MD/DC/VA), I can attest to the upcoming change for you in much heavier enforcement. Personally, I'd suggest getting a good and stealthy detector first (esp for DC/VA). Laser is less encountered, but still used, so I'd prioritize that second. Remote install for radar is advised, since heavy traffic makes any windshield mount susceptible to being seen by others as well as Spectre. A full remote install is many $$$, but if it's in your future, remember that a windshield mount RD can't generally be integrated later so consider resale loss when buying and future proofing.
 

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If I lived in or frequented a banned state, I’d run hidden NRDSP and ALP under perspex. TMG is also an option.

For those rare rear encounters at night, I’d also like to have an automated system control my brake light function automatically based on speed.
 

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there are lots of great options for a stealth install, you can get a decent ALP install with a netradar DSP antenna and two or three RX heads for your car to start with. For most cars a dual head will solidly cover you against everything except DE (which two heads will cover until up to a certain distance and then the PT's will start happening). Honestly a dul head ZR or ZW5 would also do ok against the bulk of laser up that way and if you paired it with the redline EX you would have a fully spectre undetectable system, having a couple rear heads might be a good idea as I have heard of and seen setups for some rear shots there as well. There are a lot of speed and redlight cameras, Waze should help you with a lot of them, they do use portable Poliscans, which ALP should alert you to, it's ability to jam them depends on the steepness they have the poliscan setup across the road if it's way off axis it may be out of the transmitting angle of ALP heads mounted stright and level but again those are mainly in construction zones or school zones. if you want MRCD detection to help more with the speed cameras and redlight camers then you would want either the RCM or the ProM as they are the best at MRCD right now. If your car has a good tint strip up top and you can hardwire a detector up there then that should be pretty good for stealthyness, especially if you keep the display dim and choose a unit that isn't very spectre detectable.
 

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You will have no issues with a windshield mount RD if thats the direction you want to go. I drove for years with a V1 in MD/VA/DC and had no issues and now I use an R7. There are plenty of options that are stealth enough with either a windshield mount or installed system. In fact if you're unsure about what jammers you want and you ultimately want a fully integrated installed system, you could just get a windshield mount for now and then sell it later when you decide what to do and save up. Maybe you even keep it as a backup or for another car. I think the the ProM and R3 are great options and I bet you could even find a used one to save a little more.
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In regard to the MRCD issue here, they are all permanent locations with the exception of the highway construction zones with Poliscan so a GPS RD with database and user marks is frankly more helpful than specific MRCD detection. The Poliscan is easy enough to spot.
 
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there are lots of great options for a stealth install, you can get a decent ALP install with a netradar DSP antenna and two or three RX heads for your car to start with. For most cars a dual head will solidly cover you against everything except DE (which two heads will cover until up to a certain distance and then the PT's will start happening). Honestly a dul head ZR or ZW5 would also do ok against the bulk of laser up that way and if you paired it with the redline EX you would have a fully spectre undetectable system, having a couple rear heads might be a good idea as I have heard of and seen setups for some rear shots there as well. There are a lot of speed and redlight cameras, Waze should help you with a lot of them, they do use portable Poliscans, which ALP should alert you to, it's ability to jam them depends on the steepness they have the poliscan setup across the road if it's way off axis it may be out of the transmitting angle of ALP heads mounted stright and level but again those are mainly in construction zones or school zones. if you want MRCD detection to help more with the speed cameras and redlight camers then you would want either the RCM or the ProM as they are the best at MRCD right now. If your car has a good tint strip up top and you can hardwire a detector up there then that should be pretty good for stealthyness, especially if you keep the display dim and choose a unit that isn't very spectre detectable.
This is very informative thank you!
- Stealth will be of great concern since if i take any road trips back home, i'll be in VA for about a third of the trip plus it would be nice not having to take down my detector for those random trips into the district.
- It seems the pro's of the rc-m are MRxx detection, BSM and ALP integration but lack stealth and radar range which the 360CI have. Would the prevalence of the MRxx in MD be high enough to outweigh the extended range and stealth?
- Since i've had the 9500ix with direct wire above the rearview, i've been spoiled with the low mute button. It seems if i went with the Pro-M I would lose that feature? Reaching up to mute a detector that high can be alarming and distracting imo.
- I like the price point and integration of just adding the ZR5's but may need some reassurance on it's performance. I haven't heard that many good reviews with regards to PT's. If the PT's only happen closer to the gun and are not intermittent that may be ok but instant PT's obviously defeat the purpose of the CM. I'm assuming the majority of laser in MD is from cameras and not LEOs? I'm not an aggressive driver or excessive speeder so my time to decelerate shouldn't be long.
 

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I'm assuming the majority of laser in MD is from cameras and not LEOs?
No. The fixed cameras are MRCD/CT. With the exception of some possible outliers, the only laser cameras are the mobile Poliscan in construction zones, which as I noted above are easy to spot.
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The state police use laser and Ka and on occasion you might find a local using laser but that’s more rare.
 

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This is very informative thank you!
- Stealth will be of great concern since if i take any road trips back home, i'll be in VA for about a third of the trip plus it would be nice not having to take down my detector for those random trips into the district.
- It seems the pro's of the rc-m are MRxx detection, BSM and ALP integration but lack stealth and radar range which the 360CI have. Would the prevalence of the MRxx in MD be high enough to outweigh the extended range and stealth?
- Since i've had the 9500ix with direct wire above the rearview, i've been spoiled with the low mute button. It seems if i went with the Pro-M I would lose that feature? Reaching up to mute a detector that high can be alarming and distracting imo.
- I like the price point and integration of just adding the ZR5's but may need some reassurance on it's performance. I haven't heard that many good reviews with regards to PT's. If the PT's only happen closer to the gun and are not intermittent that may be ok but instant PT's obviously defeat the purpose of the CM. I'm assuming the majority of laser in MD is from cameras and not LEOs? I'm not an aggressive driver or excessive speeder so my time to decelerate shouldn't be long.
I tested a pair of ZW5's on my minivan and they were JTG on all but Dragoneye where I got some Punch throughs on the lower corners under about 500 feet, pretty typical performance from a two head system.And i do think even NRDSP/RCM are relatively stealth, range of detectability is pretty short and only head on so in the real world they would likely be fine. you could also go with a Uniden R3, It's pretty stealth, hardwired it can still have a remote mute button and it has a nice dark display and top shelf range, several folks have used them in VA with no issue... and even if for some really odd reason they caught you in VA, it's a cheap fix it ticket with no points and they don't confiscate the detector anymore, far better than a speeding ticket. R3's MRCD performance is not the best but again most MRCD cameras are fixed and will be marked in the detector database and Waze. MD uses a mix of radar and laser in my experience so having at least some laser protection would be a good idea. ALp is the top performaer with a long track record, TMG is newer to the market but does solidly against all but DE, and it does decently there as well but close range PT's are still an issue 9that said DE is not super common out there so chances of seeing it with no other warning of the trap and getting a PT on a really short shot are very low). Escort is pretty solid, though their track record for updates is not stellar. I personally have ALP and a Uniden R1 and it's solid and not a terribly expensive combo to have.
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No. The fixed cameras are MRCD/CT. With the exception of some possible outliers, the only laser cameras are the mobile Poliscan in construction zones, which as I noted above are easy to spot.
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The state police use laser and Ka and on occasion you might find a local using laser but that’s more rare.
I ran across Kband from an unmarked Explorer on my last trip to MD so K is still in use in places it appears.
 

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