Installation advice for 30AE Miata

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I sold my fire-breathing '93 L.E. this spring in the expectation of taking delivery of a new 30th Anniversary Edition Miata. After six months of waiting, it finally arrived and was trailered to Auto Obsessed, my go-to detailer, for paint correction, full XPEL Ultimate coverage, plus naocoating. I was able to pick it up on Monday:

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So, I need to get an ALP system installed. What I currently have are the 5 Rx heads that came off the previously-sold Audi S6. I would love to incorporate Tx heads front and back, in order to properly deal with all the Dragon guns around these parts, but I'm concerned that all possible mounting places are just too darn low. Here are my thoughts:


The front fascia has two "indents" (circled in yellow):

Front (circled).jpg



As you can see, they're quite deep and I think something could be done to make a clean install in these two spots:

Front oblique.jpg



The 3rd (middle) head (whether Tx or Rx) could either be mounted flush with the bottom of the black strip (2) or inline with the other two heads (1) by cutting a hole in the fascia:

Front fascia (marked).jpg



The back would be a fairly standard install at the top of the license plate area:

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Thoughts, comments on the proposed head locations?
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Here I've taken measurements of the critical areas:

Front fascia - measurement to side inset.jpgFront fascia - measurement to top grill slat.jpgFront fascia center measurement.jpgRear bumper - measurement to top of license plate.jpg

As it is, I think it's already too low for a Tx head. There's also a good chance that the car will eventually be lowered about an inch in order to eliminate the unsightly wheel/fender gap that comes standard on all new Miatas. It's a small car (albeit very reflective), so would 3F/2R Rx be sufficient?

Any and all thoughts from the collective hive mind will be most welcome. Thanks all.
 
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that car is beautiful, great color and layout. I am having some of the same problems with my boxster figuring out where to stick radar antennas and sensors.
 

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Came to say "hot damn". Pretty car.
 

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I have a similar question on my 2019 MX5, I like and actually considered DeerHunter’s proposed install ideas but my problem is I have a platypus license plate relocation bracket on my (required) front plate (side note, yeah on FINALLY having a car that didn’t have the front bumper drilled by the dealership to install a front plate bracket!) that pretty much obscures all of the most reasonable locations for installing the jammer heads on the drivers side. Anyone have a brilliant idea I may be overlooking or am I down to abandoning the idea or move my plate to the factory location?
 

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I can't see any options for the driver-side front that don't involve either major bumper cap surgery or moving the plate. I suppose you could try the second-lowest slat in the grill but I suspect it'll put the heads too low and too far inboard.
 

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I sold my fire-breathing '93 L.E. this spring in the expectation of taking delivery of a new 30th Anniversary Edition Miata. After six months of waiting, it finally arrived and was trailered to Auto Obsessed, my go-to detailer, for paint correction, full XPEL Ultimate coverage, plus naocoating. I was able to pick it up on Monday:

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So, I need to get an ALP system installed. What I currently have are the 5 Rx heads that came off the previously-sold Audi S6. I would love to incorporate Tx heads front and back, in order to properly deal with all the Dragon guns around these parts, but I'm concerned that all possible mounting places are just too darn low. Here are my thoughts:


The front fascia has two "indents" (circled in yellow):

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As you can see, they're quite deep and I think something could be done to make a clean install in these two spots:

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The 3rd (middle) head (whether Tx or Rx) could either be mounted flush with the bottom of the black strip (2) or inline with the other two heads (1) by cutting a hole in the fascia:

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The back would be a fairly standard install at the top of the license plate area:

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Thoughts, comments on the proposed head locations?
Post automatically merged:
Here I've taken measurements of the critical areas:

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As it is, I think it's already too low for a Tx head. There's also a good chance that the car will eventually be lowered about an inch in order to eliminate the unsightly wheel/fender gap that comes standard on all new Miatas. It's a small car (albeit very reflective), so would 3F/2R Rx be sufficient?

Any and all thoughts from the collective hive mind will be most welcome. Thanks all.
I can't see any options for the driver-side front that don't involve either major bumper cap surgery or moving the plate. I suppose you could try the second-lowest slat in the grill but I suspect it'll put the heads too low and too far inboard.
yeah that’s the conclusion I’m arriving at as well from what I’ve been able to find. Was hoping someone else might have experience running heads low to the ground in spite of the obvious limitations that configuration entails. If it still gave a fighting chance on strait and level ground it would be acceptable risk to me as far as realizing limitations while cresting a hill and the like, but I’m afraid with the narrow grill already, it would place the transmitter too far from the headlight to be effective. Many thanks for the input.
 

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@Vortex Would be the best man for advice. Don't expect anything speedy he is busy on dad duty.
 

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yeah that’s the conclusion I’m arriving at as well from what I’ve been able to find. Was hoping someone else might have experience running heads low to the ground in spite of the obvious limitations that configuration entails. If it still gave a fighting chance on strait and level ground it would be acceptable risk to me as far as realizing limitations while cresting a hill and the like, but I’m afraid with the narrow grill already, it would place the transmitter too far from the headlight to be effective. Many thanks for the input.
@Vortex Would be the best man for advice. Don't expect anything speedy he is busy on dad duty.
I agree completely, and well understand the current situation with dad duty I made reference to my question here on the welcome new user intro page.
 

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Nice car! Yeah I think that placement setup should be fine. Probably best to skip the Tx sensors because of the height issue.

I had good luck with just two heads against many guns on the Miata, including the DE, but I only tested with a few variants of the gun. There's probably tougher newer versions that would greatly benefit from a third head up front.

As far as the center head placement, while mounting a little higher would technically be a bit better in some cases, if you don't want to cut the fascia which is totally understandable, I think the lower option would work well too.
 

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I'm a little late to this party, but figured I'd chime in with my 2¢

To back up your original thoughts, I would definitely run the two outers in the recessed provisions up high. For the center, I would recommend a TX, but in a custom plate mount that put the TX at the very top. That still keeps you about 18" off the ground. even if you lower the front end. Here's an example of what I'm referring to on the front end of a Tesla Model 3:

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That thin strip at the top is the perspex material and the TX is hidden underneath. I don't have many of the install or build photos, but this is one shot of the cast acrylic base structure. You can see the provision for the TX head in the center. The whole piece has a curve to it that allows for the whole assembly to look low profile but still have depth to fit the TX head.

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Of course, you'd need a fabricator capable of this type of work to pull it off. It's something we could "potentially" design and ship if it came down to it.

Hope that helps!

-Nick
 

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Yep, that was me that stopped by , yep, I am planning to have you guys install ALP as we discussed, (understanding this wasn’t a firm quote and prices may vary as it will be at least first of year before I can move forward), thanks Nick, was a pleasure to meet you. Thanks for taking a look and for your sage advice.
 

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Yep, that was me that stopped by , yep, I am planning to have you guys install ALP as we discussed, (understanding this wasn’t a firm quote and prices may vary as it will be at least first of year before I can move forward), thanks Nick, was a pleasure to meet you. Thanks for taking a look and for your sage advice.
Ah! Didn't put that together on my own, lol. Great meeting you, too, Chris! Looking forward to working with you down the road when you're ready for CM's!
 

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