Firmware 1.11/1.8 Released for MAX 360

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I've not had lockups, but I have to turn laser off on my 360c. It falses at least twice an hour.
 

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I've not had lockups, but I have to turn laser off on my 360c. It falses at least twice an hour.
Are you sure it isn't being caused by your phone?
 

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Are you sure it isn't being caused by your phone?
That's what I've been thinking for at least some of these reports. FaceID on iOS consistently sets it off. That said, I don't quite see all the angst about laser falses, I believe it draws attention from the primary problem with these detectors, and here's why I think that way.

Pragmatically, if I were getting false laser signals of any kind, I could make an argument for saying the path of least resistance is to just shut off laser detections. I say that because (1) most posts report windshield mounts being much less sensitive to true laser hits than dedicated jammers, (2) if you've been hit, well game over without jammers, and (3) a not insignificant number of these may be due to falsing from other sources including iOS devices and adaptive cruise control systems. I understand folks saying "well, it's supposed to do this and it isn't doing it the way it should." Fair enough. Or that if it picks up scatter from someone else it theoretically could allow them to slow down before they were targeted. That would be a good point, but I personally wouldn't rely on the slim chance of that happening regularly- if laser is a concern in your area, a jammer is the only way to provide more reliable protection. Anything else technology-wise is essentially worthless right now. It reminds me of how I would approach a medical test. If I were ordering one for a patient, and the test was not sensitive to the entity it was designed to pick up (say some malignancy) at all, but it did instead have a bunch of false positives (thereby putting people through unnecessary biopsies), then no way should that test be ordered.

So given that RD laser detection functionality is more marketing hyperbole than anything else, I would just argue that if folks are getting these laser falses, shut off laser detection. It honestly wasn't really helping and at this point it's just an annoyance. The same cannot be said for the sleeping or loud lockups. It's supposed to pick up radar signals with enough range to let you alter behavior, and it's supposed to do that consistently and reliably. We all expect it to do that, even when we don't expect the laser functionality of the RD to reliably help us. That's where I think we should be focusing our efforts- to pressure manufacturers to devote their firmware update resources. Radar detection is the legitimate purpose of these devices. Without THAT, it's more than a waste of money and time- it's a dangerously false sense of security. That's why I carry a Pocket Radar to detect when my GT360 has fallen asleep- thankfully it hasn't with the latest update, but it's too soon to say the problem's been licked for me with certainty. But I've never thought of carrying a laser to test out the RD's laser detection abilities.
 

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That's what I've been thinking for at least some of these reports. FaceID on iOS consistently sets it off. That said, I don't quite see all the angst about laser falses, I believe it draws attention from the primary problem with these detectors, and here's why I think that way.

Pragmatically, if I were getting false laser signals of any kind, I could make an argument for saying the path of least resistance is to just shut off laser detections. I say that because (1) most posts report windshield mounts being much less sensitive to true laser hits than dedicated jammers, (2) if you've been hit, well game over without jammers, and (3) a not insignificant number of these may be due to falsing from other sources including iOS devices and adaptive cruise control systems. I understand folks saying "well, it's supposed to do this and it isn't doing it the way it should." Fair enough. Or that if it picks up scatter from someone else it theoretically could allow them to slow down before they were targeted. That would be a good point, but I personally wouldn't rely on the slim chance of that happening regularly- if laser is a concern in your area, a jammer is the only way to provide more reliable protection. Anything else technology-wise is essentially worthless right now. It reminds me of how I would approach a medical test. If I were ordering one for a patient, and the test was not sensitive to the entity it was designed to pick up (say some malignancy) at all, but it did instead have a bunch of false positives (thereby putting people through unnecessary biopsies), then no way should that test be ordered.

So given that RD laser detection functionality is more marketing hyperbole than anything else, I would just argue that if folks are getting these laser falses, shut off laser detection. It honestly wasn't really helping and at this point it's just an annoyance. The same cannot be said for the sleeping or loud lockups. It's supposed to pick up radar signals with enough range to let you alter behavior, and it's supposed to do that consistently and reliably. We all expect it to do that, even when we don't expect the laser functionality of the RD to reliably help us. That's where I think we should be focusing our efforts- to pressure manufacturers to devote their firmware update resources. Radar detection is the legitimate purpose of these devices. Without THAT, it's more than a waste of money and time- it's a dangerously false sense of security. That's why I carry a Pocket Radar to detect when my GT360 has fallen asleep- thankfully it hasn't with the latest update, but it's too soon to say the problem's been licked for me with certainty. But I've never thought of carrying a laser to test out the RD's laser detection abilities.
Agree with that, although I am glad I haven't had to turn my laser detection off. Not that I think it will protect me much. But it might keep me from speeding even faster after I'm targeted but before I'd see the LEO without an alert. I've had a situation like that where if my RD hadn't gone off, I might have speed up before noticing the LEO. But yes, if it was falsing all the time, I'd just turn it off.
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I forgot I was going to post a video of a recent Ka alert with fw 1.1. It wasn't too bad, but it was an easy detection. Between .8 and 1 mile.

 
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I forgot I was going to post a video of a recent Ka alert with fw 1.1. It wasn't too bad, but it was an easy detection. Between .8 and 1 mile.
Nice. Watching your video made me remember one thing I noticed with the latest firmware update....my bogey tone seems to have returned! I noticed after the prior update I was not getting my tones, even though they were enabled. I would see many signals and still no tone where it normally would. After this latest update I noticed they are back again in the normal areas. I tried everything with the prior firmware to get them back but just gave up, glad to see they as working again. (then again the unit was at Escort so they could have found and issue and corrected it as well as that is an unknown).
 

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As a whole, the company just needs to admit to everybody that they cannot fix the lock-up problem and that it is just going to be a fault of their detectors until they can engineer a completely refreshed board. Stop releasing "fixes" for all current hardware unless you're actually taking the time to consider what's wrong. Or reverse the firmware and base it off of 85xxx 1.2/79xxx 1.5 which was the last firmware that didn't have any lock-ups. 1.6 is what introduced all these bugs. What do I know though?
 
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Marked them both myself, including on EL. BTW, agree with you that maybe EL no longer seems to automatically update alerts? Seems they have to be manually sent though honestly I haven't checked if that's the case every time.
One of the major flaws with the new app. It almost like they don’t have enough faith anymore in Ka or laser detections to auto post locations.
Update: Auto-upload should be an on / off option in the setup if ecort doesn’t want the function to be automatically ON.
Posted from my iPhone using the RDF Mobile App!
 
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Well, two days of driving since the lockup. So far, no repeat. No silent lockups. I get enough K-band false alerts (strange, I thought I remembered it being a little quieter, but they are usually short in duration) and I have the Bushnell with me just in case. I had forgotten how much I dislike the Max 360's display in the daylight. It's nearly impossible for me to read the frequency. It's just too small and the display isn't that bright, even set to max brightness. At night I can read it fine.

EDIT: And still no laser falses
 
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Since the last couple of laser falses, I haven’t experienced any others. I’ve been driving pretty heavily.


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Well, two days of driving since the lockup. So far, no repeat. No silent lockups. I get enough K-band false alerts (strange, I thought I remembered it being a little quieter, but they are usually short in duration) and I have the Bushnell with me just in case. I had forgotten how much I dislike the Max 360's display in the daylight. It's nearly impossible for me to read the frequency. It's just too small and the display isn't that bright, even set to max brightness. At night I can read it fine.

EDIT: And still no laser falses
I must have jinxed myself with that edit. I got my first laser false driving to get lunch today. I don't remember ever having a laser false with the 360 before.
 

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I must have jinxed myself with that edit. I got my first laser false driving to get lunch today. I don't remember ever having a laser false with the 360 before.
I had another laser false yesterday driving home.
 
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Funny, I had one too today. Don’t recLl having one before but I did have the iPhone on at the time. Will keep an eye on it and if it recurs with or without the iPhone, likely will just turn off laser alerts. They’re pretty useless anyway. Aside from letting me know the RD hasn’t fallen asleep!
 

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Funny, I had one too today. Don’t recLl having one before but I did have the iPhone on at the time. Will keep an eye on it and if it recurs with or without the iPhone, likely will just turn off laser alerts. They’re pretty useless anyway. Aside from letting me know the RD hasn’t fallen asleep!
I didn't have my phone anywhere near my detector when either laser false happened.
 

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I had a laser false yesterday as well. I noticed mine happened when I restsarted my dashcam. Before I knew my cam was fine I kept restarting it trying to reload software and firmware. Each time I restarted it I had a laser false. So that makes me wonder that maybe our dashcams are one of the reasons this is going on, besides faulty firmware updates by Escort. I just wish we could get this issue resolved as does every other Escort owner. Common Escort help us loyal customers out :eek:)
 

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I had a laser false yesterday as well. I noticed mine happened when I restsarted my dashcam. Before I knew my cam was fine I kept restarting it trying to reload software and firmware. Each time I restarted it I had a laser false. So that makes me wonder that maybe our dashcams are one of the reasons this is going on, besides faulty firmware updates by Escort. I just wish we could get this issue resolved as does every other Escort owner. Common Escort help us loyal customers out :eek:)
Interesting. I see some dashcams have Parking Mode with motion sensors (not just impact/G sensors) to detect motion and start recording prior to any impact. I'm not sure how this works or if it gives off and IR source but your observations are interesting.
 

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Interesting. I see some dashcams have Parking Mode with motion sensors (not just impact/G sensors) to detect motion and start recording prior to any impact. I'm not sure how this works or if it gives off and IR source but your observations are interesting.
yes it got so annoying that I had to shut the 360c off to deal with my BlackVue issue, which turned out wasn't my cameras fault at all. Ugg all these toys and half of them don't work after spending so much mula. The wife wants to have me put on medication and sent out to the funny farm as I tell her these are fun toys and that I must have them.
 

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Well, 3 days driving with the new firmware on my Max360. I didnt have a laser falsing issue before. But i sure do now! I have not witnessed any lock ups so i guess thats a plus?
 

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I've had three more laser falses since my last post. No rhyme or reason to it. Has anyone pinned it down to a source or is it just the usual suspects like sunlight and certain vehicles?
 

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