FW 1.10 has been released for the Max360c

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My 360c never had falses until FW ver 1.9 and now its worse with 1.10! Im so disappointed. This issue was never a concern with my 360c. Now Im in the same boat as others that have the problem!
Didn’t you send it in to Escort for service for laser false alarms while under firmware 1.9? Did it help with the laser false alarms until you updated to 1.10?

An unfortunate example of "if it ain't broke don't fix it" when it comes to Escort fw updates since Escort will not allow users to go back to previous fw. It's similar with my Max 360. It had never falsed to laser before updating to fw 1.11.
I agree, “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”. Too bad that Escort doesn’t give you the option to go back to a prior firmware version.




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Didn’t you send it in to Escort for service for laser false alarms while under firmware 1.9? Did it help with the laser false alarms until you updated to 1.10?



I agree, “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”. Too bad that Escort doesn’t give you the option to go back to a prior firmware version.




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Hi Ron, No I did not send it in cause I actually just purchased my Max360c a week befor the 1:10 Fw update. I’m starting to feel I made a mistake and should have stayed with the R7. My wife kept telling me to just slow down and shut the R7 off cause of all the rear false k bands every few seconds. Been an Escort user for years and I also missed the auto lock outs and switched after two weeks. Been running a 9500ix for 10 years almost and knew it was time for an upgrade. Had the R7 for two weeks and just to many false seven with k filter and 30% k and ka segmentation and no lock outs I just went back and bought the best escort that’s available. And now I have laser alerts if my phone is anywhere within 12”. I now drive with it in my cup holders in the armrest and it stays quiet with no false lasers. Hopefully they will figure it out or I’ll just wait for the next best thing to come.
 

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I have the samsung s10.
Same here. I know the Samsung's can cause falsing issues, it did to my Pro M. I'll run the 360c with my Samsung turned off for a while to see how that impacts the laser falsing.
Yea, fw 1.10 still falses on my samsung phone, but I cant duplicate it willingly. But it usually happens when my phone is on my lap from falling off. but then again I have a lot of variables from when i was able to recreate laser falsing on 1.9 vs 1.10. My old 360 wouldn't false to tv remote when my new 360c did on fw1.9.. I'll test them both again when I get the chance.
 

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My laser false's seem to have disappeared with 1.10.
That is good. The laser false alarms on my Max360c been reduced with 1.10 compared to 1.9, but I am still getting more laser false alarms on 1.10 than I did with firmware 1.8. I have counted five laser false alarms over the last 3 weeks on firmware 1.10. I have also noticed under firmware 1.10 that I am getting random 33.640 false alarms in different areas that I haven’t experienced before. I may segment mine on Ka to get get rid of that issue.


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Its so odd. Last time I complained about 2 laser faults within 2 days two weeks ago, its been silent since then. My 360c acts like it was intended to and is actually out performing my R3 on K band right now - I just don't understand it. The R3 still outperforms it on KA band but my 360c is still quieter. No laser faults in 2 weeks. Wow.
 

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Its so odd. Last time I complained about 2 laser faults within 2 days two weeks ago, its been silent since then. My 360c acts like it was intended to and is actually out performing my R3 on K band right now - I just don't understand it. The R3 still outperforms it on KA band but my 360c is still quieter. No laser faults in 2 weeks. Wow.
Now you've gone and done it! :laugh:
 

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Its so odd. Last time I complained about 2 laser faults within 2 days two weeks ago, its been silent since then. My 360c acts like it was intended to and is actually out performing my R3 on K band right now - I just don't understand it. The R3 still outperforms it on KA band but my 360c is still quieter. No laser faults in 2 weeks. Wow.
Its really odd, when I first went to the new firmware I had quit a few laser falses. But this week I havent had any! I think its possessed
 

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I just had my first sleeping/silent lock up on my Max360c today under firmware 1.10. This is maybe my 22nd day on this firmware. My Max360c had been on for about 25-30 minutes and responding to radar just fine before it went to sleep. No Escort Live. As usual, once power cycled, it works again. I had hoped that maybe firmware 1.10 would address some of issues that I have had with my Max360c, but firmware 1.10 is not the solution for my detector. I sent my detector in to Escort in August to have it serviced for this issue. This is my 3rd sleeping/silent lock up since getting it back from Escort. Two on firmware 1.9 and one on firmware 1.10. This is so disappointing that I have a $649 radar detector that works very well 97-99 percent of the time, but just randomly goes to sleep with a silent lock ups with no warning.

My observations with firmware 1.10 for 22 days or so :
1) One silent lock up / sleeping incident today
2) Six laser false alarms
3) I recently started having random Ka band false alarms for the first 2-3 minutes after turning on the detector. This happens in different locations that normally do not trigger my detector. Normally 33.640, sometimes 34.580, and I had a 35.780 then 35.820 (I think) last night in my driveway after turning on my Max 360c before running an errand. I had planned on segmenting my Max360c today like I have my R3 on Ka.
4) As I was about to turn back on my street last night after my Max360c had been on maybe 30 minutes or so I received a visual “live” Ka band indication with the distance to the source, and I wasn’t even running Escort Live. When I pulled into my driveway, my detector indicated my driveway was where the live Ka had been reported. Escort Live app was not on or running in the background. So very strange. I was liking firmware 1.10 in the beginning, but after spending three weeks or so with it, I am ready to try the next version.

I have owned the original Escort, the original Passport, the Escort DSP, several Escort/Passport 8500 x50s, an Escort iX, and now this Max360c. I have never had any sleeping / silent lock up issues (or any significant performance issues) with any of those aforementioned detectors except for the Max360c. My iX’s BSM filtering wasn’t great, but it always responded to radar with no problems.






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I just had my first sleeping/silent lock up on my Max360c today under firmware 1.10. This is maybe my 22nd day on this firmware. My Max360c had been on for about 25-30 minutes and responding to radar just fine before it went to sleep. No Escort Live. As usual, once power cycled, it works again. I had hoped that maybe firmware 1.10 would address some of issues that I have had with my Max360c, but firmware 1.10 is not the solution for my detector. I sent my detector in to Escort in August to have it serviced for this issue. This is my 3rd sleeping/silent lock up since getting it back from Escort. Two on firmware 1.9 and one on firmware 1.10. This is so disappointing that I have a $649 radar detector that works very well 97-99 percent of the time, but just randomly goes to sleep with a silent lock ups with no warning.

My observations with firmware 1.10 for 22 days or so :
1) One silent lock up / sleeping incident today
2) Six laser false alarms
3) I recently started having random Ka band false alarms for the first 2-3 minutes after turning on the detector. This happens in different locations that normally do not trigger my detector. Normally 33.640, sometimes 34.580, and I had a 35.780 then 35.820 (I think) last night in my driveway after turning on my Max 360c before running an errand. I had planned on segmenting my Max360c today like I have my R3 on Ka.
4) As I was about to turn back on my street last night after my Max360c had been on maybe 30 minutes or so I received a visual “live” Ka band indication with the distance to the source, and I wasn’t even running Escort Live. When I pulled into my driveway, my detector indicated my driveway was where the live Ka had been reported. Escort Live app was not on or running in the background. So very strange. I was liking firmware 1.10 in the beginning, but after spending three weeks or so with it, I am ready to try the next version.

I have owned the original Escort, the original Passport, the Escort DSP, several Escort/Passport 8500 x50s, an Escort iX, and now this Max360c. I have never had any sleeping / silent lock up issues (or any significant performance issues) with any of those aforementioned detectors except for the Max360c. My iX’s BSM filtering wasn’t great, but it always responded to radar with no problems.






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This may be a dumb question, but how do you know when your detector has the silent lock up? I have a 360C so I’d like to know.
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This may be a dumb question, but how do you know when your detector has the silent lock up? I have a 360C so I’d like to know.
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The silent lock up is dangerous because you don't know when the detector has gone to sleep. Many have resorted to carrying around radar guns to periodically test their detectors. Do you have any false signals on your normal drive you can confirm the detector is alerting to? eg speed signs or door openers? It is more difficult to tell whether the detector is locked up when running in Auto mode, as it has a tendency to silently filter these falses out regardless.
 

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The silent lock up is dangerous because you don't know when the detector has gone to sleep. Many have resorted to carrying around radar guns to periodically test their detectors. Do you have any false signals on your normal drive you can confirm the detector is alerting to? eg speed signs or door openers? It is more difficult to tell whether the detector is locked up when running in Auto mode, as it has a tendency to silently filter these falses out regardless.
I don’t because I’ve turned off K band for my normal route. If I drive somewhere other than my normal route i turn it back on. I do have a Bushell gun I can carry I suppose, but I thought shooting too close to the detector was bad for it?
 

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This may be a dumb question, but how do you know when your detector has the silent lock up? I have a 360C so I’d like to know.
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I don’t think this a dumb question. It is easier for me to tell when my Max360c has a sleeping/silent lock up when I am in the city as my Max 360c stops alerting to the normal K-band door openers and several nearby K-band speed signs where I live. I run my Max360c in Highway mode all the time in the city and highway, and I have auto lockouts disabled. I personally do not like or trust GPS lockouts. I have a K-band speed sign not too far from my home that causes all of my detectors to alert including my Max360c. I always drive by that sign coming home. If my Max360c doesn’t alert to it (normally it does), I have 4 to 5 K-band door openers at several stores and the post office that normally set off my Max360c. I drive by several of those when it is “sleeping”, and the Max360c is silent. I then come home, and get my R3 or Whistler CR97, and my Bushnell K-band gun, and my Max360c is silent when sleeping on the Bushnell too until I power cycle the Max360c. I try my other detectors one at a time, and they always alert to the Bushnell.

I just bought a small K-band pocket radar which I plan on keeping in my glove box or center console for longer highway trips. I should get it this week. I also plan on buying a Stalker ATR 34.7 Ka band gun soon.

It is more difficult to tell when my Max360c goes to sleep on the interstate unless I encounter a lot of LEOs actively shooting radar periodically. That is why I just ordered the pocket radar as it is so small and easy to put in my glove box. I think my Max360c likely is working properly somewhere between 97-99 percent of the time (that figure is a guess). Other than when I got it back from Escort for service when it had sleeping / silent lock ups on back to back days during Labor Day weekend I normally have noticed a sleeping / silent lock up every 3-4 weeks.

I just had one (sleeping / silent lock up) recently on the new firmware 1.10 which was disappointing.




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This may be a dumb question, but how do you know when your detector has the silent lock up? I have a 360C so I’d like to know.
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Up until this latest update, all my 360 platform models were immune to the narcolepsy disease. I have reports in another post started by someone on the Max 360. my 360c upgrade (over the air on WiFi) into a snoozing machine. @RoadDogg is correct, it works well into the high nineties percentile. But.. when driving 1200-1500mi, that is a bunch of time exposed. I took the Bushnell with us. Used it to test. The 360c BSM filtering is so good, hoping for random BSM false to check operation does Not work. Waiting until driving through a metro area to pick up some random X or K band false, leaves wide open spaces unknown if it went to sleep.

So, use the Bushnell. and will start using the Falcon HR for testing (one member suggested that the Bushnell looks like a falsing device to the 360 platform and could be showing false sleeping. I have not experienced this). previous in other posts I noted different settings and conditions here it slept (using EL, or not, whatever). One thing I will be trying today.. turning off the auto sleep mode. This puts portion or the radar detector to sleep when the car sits for a time, but the RD is powered. Maybe by some freak chance, there is a bug in this, causing the weird combo of display showing but the detection section shuts down even when moving.

As noted until I updated the 360c I had zero sleeping. Was testing extensively during all the reports. Same for the GT360 (the best 360 platform I own) and the Max 360 original I own.

Last week on way back from conferences, I switched to the R7. of course never any sleeping issue. Performed very well. But.... I had person with me that was annoyed by the all too often BSM based falsing. Even with the best of advanced setting, plus k block on. Went back to the 360c for majority/rest of trip back. It never went to sleep. 360c Worked flawless with great range for the accidental 10-20 over PSL.

After some more testing, will switch to the 360 on its latest FW to test. I expect it is now broken too. If proven so, they both go back to ER to be lab rats. Will use the GT360 and R7 as daily devices.

on side note.... This trip both directions was on busy interstates. Escort Live worked much better than Waze to report and track actual LEO, plus actual radar sniffed reports by people devices. More accurate and more populated with solid LEO reports. Waze was a mess For this. I suspected cops fiddling with the reports, plus crazy reporters, limits on ability to show moving or hidden LEO, let alone no ability for detector reporting of actual radar transmitting. Waze was great on traffic reporting. On way there, had us off road on gravel roads (part of time) bypassing huge back up in smokey mountains of TN. Live showed the red traffic mess, but rerouting not part of the game. Waze did great on the reroute suggestions based on accurate real time Waze and other sourced traffic data. I bet saved us two+ hours stuck not moving. Funny thing. Many had been using Waze. A caravan of vehicles were driving (mostly behind us) on those gravel roads. Landscape at night was like some Burt Reynolds Deliverance movie. I am sure the few people in trailers and houses did not appreciate all the dusty traffic.
 

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This morning I put the Bushnell in my car, 360 didn’t go off, but the gun was saying 18mph when I was pointing it at the floor, so I’m pretty sure the gun is messed up.

I did also get a KA hit on the way to work.

What are these pocket k guns being talked about?
 

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This morning I put the Bushnell in my car, 360 didn’t go off, but the gun was saying 18mph when I was pointing it at the floor, so I’m pretty sure the gun is messed up.

I did also get a KA hit on the way to work.

What are these pocket k guns being talked about?
My Bushnell will do the same when pointed in the exact manor. Being so confined the 'wave' bounce all around and it will give a false reading. It can also overdrive the RD as well and cause it not to alert. I have found the most reliable way is to roll the window down (and if you can) hold your arm out and trigger it. When driving I usually roll the window down and rest it on the sill and pull the trigger, usually facing out and rear a bit to help minimize the signal strength (at that range there is plenty for it to catch).

There really seems to be something odd with the Bushnell and the way these 360's alert and do not alert to it. Since you received a Ka hit I would assume it was not sleeping, just not alerting to the Bushnell. Mine was selectively alerting to the Bushnell (depending on the day) but catching the Falcon HR every time without hesitation.

I know it has been reported that the K-band signal coming from the Bushnell is very clean and should not be missed by the 360, but for some reason there must be more to it than that as it does filter it out.
 

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There really seems to be something odd with the Bushnell and the way these 360's alert and do not alert to it. Since you received a Ka hit I would assume it was not sleeping, just not alerting to the Bushnell. Mine was selectively alerting to the Bushnell (depending on the day) but catching the Falcon HR every time without hesitation.

I know it has been reported that the K-band signal coming from the Bushnell is very clean and should not be missed by the 360, but for some reason there must be more to it than that as it does filter it out.
I suspect it has to do with the strength of the signal. If memory serves, the Rx capabilities of the Bushnell aren't great and to compensate it has a very strong Tx and just blasts massive amounts of K band. The Falcon HR OTOH is a low power gun by design. I don't think anything is weird about the Bushnell's signal other than its much stronger and likely overdriving the 360s.
 

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This morning I put the Bushnell in my car, 360 didn’t go off, but the gun was saying 18mph when I was pointing it at the floor, so I’m pretty sure the gun is messed up.
For fun, point it at your AC vents and then change the speed of the fans. :)

Once you see what happens, it’ll make more sense why officers have specific places where they can and can’t mount their antennas.
 

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I suspect it has to do with the strength of the signal. If memory serves, the Rx capabilities of the Bushnell aren't great and to compensate it has a very strong Tx and just blasts massive amounts of K band. The Falcon HR OTOH is a low power gun by design. I don't think anything is weird about the Bushnell's signal other than its much stronger and likely overdriving the 360s.
I have stepped out of my vehicle, walked a considerable distance (to where I could still hear the 360 alert, if it did) and there was still no response no matter where I pointed the Bushnell - yet the HR triggered it to alert immediately. Over-driving the 360 with the Bushnell (at least for mine) is not the reason why it ignores it. Since it picked up the HR k-band it is not 'dead' to k-band either. Really comes down to filtering I have a feeling - however as others have said it should not really filter it out.
 

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I have stepped out of my vehicle, walked a considerable distance (to where I could still hear the 360 alert, if it did) and there was still no response no matter where I pointed the Bushnell - yet the HR triggered it to alert immediately. Over-driving the 360 with the Bushnell (at least for mine) is not the reason why it ignores it. Since it picked up the HR k-band it is not 'dead' to k-band either. Really comes down to filtering I have a feeling - however as others have said it should not really filter it out.
That's interesting that you're getting different results with different guns. The 360 should alert to the Bushnell... Speaking of filtering, I have seen weird things like the Pro M / RC M filtering out the Pocket Radar when set to TS Rej High. When it's set to Off (and I also believe Low), it will alert to the gun. So filters can affect detection or not, but a Bushnell should be pretty straightforward, especially at a distance.
 

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