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While many are experiencing the over sensitive rear antenna the unit I just bought has a dead one. I have a separate thread on that issue but the end result is its less then 2 week old and going back to Uniden.
 

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Didn’t Uniden recently lose their main RD guy? Wouldn’t it make sense that it would take them some time to get reorganized?
Huh? I thought their R&D was Attowave...

They did lose a guy. From my understanding, he was the go between to get things done by Attowave.
 

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Huh? I thought their R&D was Attowave...

They did lose a guy. From my understanding, he was the go between to get things done by Attowave.
Correct, but from my understanding he was their motivating force that got them back into RDs in the first place. If the motivation to do the thing is gone...
 

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Correct, but from my understanding he was their motivating force that got them back into RDs in the first place. If the motivation to do the thing is gone...
$ is the motivating factor :)

I believe the R series is making them money.
 

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$ is the motivating factor :)

I believe the R series is making them money.
Oh I’m sure they’ll keep selling the R series, but I’m unsure of how frequent firmware updates for the existing detectors will be, much less new product development, from here on out.
 

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I just want a stable firmware update, let them take their time, if the next update is buggy, then we can assume we know where their priorities lie. Hopefully we see an update on what they are working on rather than an ETA, I don't care for ETA's as things can change and then people get upset because Uniden didn't release it by the ETA.
 

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Oh I’m sure they’ll keep selling the R series, but I’m unsure of how frequent firmware updates for the existing detectors will be, much less new product development, from here on out.
Aren't the R3/R1 fairly mature by now? The K notch (Honda's/Acura's) tells me they've probably done all they can for this platform for actual K filtering. As for the R7, since it is based on the same platform as R1/R3, it came out of the gate "fairly" mature. The delay in updates could mean the next one is fairly big, but your guess is as good or better than mine.
 

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Aren't the R3/R1 fairly mature by now? The K notch (Honda's/Acura's) tells me they've probably done all they can for this platform for actual K filtering. As for the R7, since it is based on the same platform as R1/R3, it came out of the gate "fairly" mature. The delay in updates could mean the next one is fairly big, but your guess is as good or better than mine.
I don't have any personal experience with the R3/R1 but I would not call the firmware on the R7 mature.
The K-block for Honda/Acura is an ugly hack.
MRCD/T detection is on par with their laser detection, ie worthless.
The arrows need work.
The rear horn needs independent sensitivity adjustment or at least a setting to use for direction only.
Volume levels of the custom tones are out of wack.
GPS lockouts on K band span a 70mhz block which is far too large.
BSM filtering in general could be improved.
 
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The K-block for Honda/Acura is an ugly hack. <<< It's the best it will probably get. Good news is the risk is very low it would actually block Police K band. It is still possible though.
MRCD/T detection is on par with their laser detection, ie worthless. << I thought they were working on MRCD/T? As for Laser detection, I turned it off like a lot of people. I don't need no stinking ticket notifier. Well, actually, it probably wouldn't notify me, but I'd still get the ticket :)
The arrows need work. <<< Actually, arrows are fairly close to perfect for me. My detector is up high, so there is nothing blocking the rear horn. It is level with the back and side windows.
The rear horn needs independent sensitivity adjustment or at least a setting to use for direction only. << I suggest this when the detector first came out, but was immediately shot down and poo poo'ed. Agree, it would be nice to have the extra control. I would turn down sensitivity of the rear horn a touch.
Volume levels of the custom tones are out of wack. << I've just used default, but sounds like a easy improvement though.
GPS lockouts on K band span a 70mhz block which is far to large. << I haven't heard much about this, but sounds reasonable to me. I have several lock outs around town, and they do fluctuate up and down some, but don't think it comes close to +-70Mhz. However, I haven't exactly been writing down the frequencies observed to confirm or deny.
BSM filtering in general could be improved. << Agreed, but would think that would have been improved some time ago. I'm not hopeful of much k filtering improvement on this platform.
 

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I have a thought for a workaround for auto-lockouts.

How about the R7 log & when parameters are met simply give an audible & visual alert or suggestion to do a "MANUAL lockout?"

Everytime the driver enters the area that would be normally autolocked "if were allowed", instead have the user do a manual lockout?

This would continue every time until the user entered the area until A. did the manual lockout or B. Cancelled the suggestion for just that one time or C. disabled the feature.

Is the patent to block activating the lockout or is recognizing and a mere suggestion to manually "mute" considered a violation also?

I wouldn't even call these "auto-lockouts", instead call the "manual lockout suggestions".

Verbage & implied use can be critical.
 

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The K-block for Honda/Acura is an ugly hack. <<< It's the best it will probably get. Good news is the risk is very low it would actually block Police K band. It is still possible though.

The Pro M does it properly.

MRCD/T detection is on par with their laser detection, ie worthless. << I thought they were working on MRCD/T? As for Laser detection, I turned it off like a lot of people. I don't need no stinking ticket notifier. Well, actually, it probably wouldn't notify me, but I'd still get the ticket :)

I've heard they are working on MRCD/T as well. Hopefully that comes in the next update. Regarding laser detection, I'll argue till the end of time that its not worthless to have good laser sensitivity on an RD. Its also embarrassing that the R series now no longer alerts to the Poliscan at all.

The arrows need work. <<< Actually, arrows are fairly close to perfect for me. My detector is up high, so there is nothing blocking the rear horn. It is level with the back and side windows.

This seems like a mixed bag with some people having issues and others not. My detector is mounted like yours and I'd say 70% of the time the arrows make sense and the other 30% leave me scratching my head

GPS lockouts on K band span a 70mhz block which is far to large. << I haven't heard much about this, but sounds reasonable to me. I have several lock outs around town, and they do fluctuate up and down some, but don't think it comes close to +-70Mhz. However, I haven't exactly been writing down the frequencies observed to confirm or deny.
Just to clarify, its +- 35Mhz resulting in a 70Mhz total block.
Back in the day the 9500ix did it with a 30Mhz total block and some people were up in arms about that being too much. I vote for 20Mhz total since digital detectors are more accurate anyway; alternatively just make it a user changeable option in settings.
 

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I have a thought for a workaround for auto-lockouts.

How about the R7 log & when parameters are met simply give an audible & visual alert or suggestion to do a "MANUAL lockout?"

Everytime the driver enters the area that would be normally autolocked "if were allowed", instead have the user do a manual lockout?

This would continue every time until the user entered the area until A. did the manual lockout or B. Cancelled the suggestion for just that one time or C. disabled the feature.

Is the patent to block activating the lockout or is recognizing and a mere suggestion to manually "mute" considered a violation also?

I wouldn't even call these "auto-lockouts", instead call the "manual lockout suggestions".

Verbage & implied use can be critical.
they should hire you, this is quite clever...
@UnidenSupport
 

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Can you elaborate on that? Not doubting, but the details could be beneficial.
I'm not sure how they do it, but from my understanding the Radenso Pro M and RC M are both capable of filtering out Hondas and Acuras without ignoring real threats in that 24.194-24.205 range.
 

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Can you elaborate on that? Not doubting, but the details could be beneficial.
It just filters them out, not sure how exactly. It has an additional modulated radar board (MR) for handling this stuff. Some ASIC that was developed and also used in the Genevo One M as far as I know. Its the smaller board in the center labeled as "MR".

But it will legitimately filter out the Honda/Acuras and FCA vehicles all other RDs currently can't. Its biggest offender is the second gen CX-5 which emits what appears to be CW K like LEOs.

I kinda wonder if this MR board is a high speed counting module. The reason I say this is because I think this board was a retrofit, and certainly the Pro M is an evolution of the Pro SE - not a from scratch design.

Anyway, you see this sort of thing when you need to count pulses at a frequency the scan rate of the PLC cannot reliably handle based on the Nyquist sampling theory. It's a module for this counting process. I wonder if they did something similar for a RD so that it can fingerprint modulated radar sources much better than most RDs currently out there.
 

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