Running the CR97 again...

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With the frustration subsiding from all the setting variables and all the experimentation, I slapped the CR97 back on my windshield. (My other detector that I was using is a Redline EX. I find it pretty solid). I seem to have the 97 working pretty well. Xk is 0, ka at 2, TFSR off, and the confounding FDsR (in silent mode). I shut off the GPS stuff. In 'city' mode its not bad at all. Not many k/ka mixups. Its k for the straight runs on my urban hiway. The thread about getting a silent Ka when in FDsR is a huge concern. I am watching it to see if it alerts if a Ka is detected while its on a FDsR #### alert. If I see that, I'll go back to regular FDSR. Anyone giving their CR97 a second try?
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I've been running my R1/Redline combo for several months now and have their set ups down to a science! My R1 is in the front on 1.50 with K block at 70% with TFS and K filter on with K band on wide. Ka filter is of course off, and segged to 2-5-8.Ka priority is on as well. My Redline-O is in the back running only 2-5-8. Everything else is off! This is the best set up I've ever run. It works so good that I'm also running another Ghetto-Arrow set up in my Boss 302 as well! Both sets are killing it! I haven't run my CR97 for a while, but I've thought about trying it again just for the hell of it, after all, I still have my kill switch wired up and tucked into the headliner of my drive to work Mustang for the Whistler! I think I'm going to try and wring my CR95 out since it has no gps functions and see how it goes!
 
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I run my CR97 1 week out of the month when I'm at my house in CT. Its on my beater car that I drive around when I'm there. For the other 3 weeks out of the month when I'm at my place in Idaho, I run Escort Max II. The Max II with the new IVT filter update is incredible at filtering out BSMs. In autoscan mode it even filters out Hondas. The CR97 is run in CT because it's a beast at picking up laser which is solely what is used there. It's the only radar detector I run that can legit pick up scatter. I know I need jammers, but there is something about Whistlers laser sensitivity that makes me happy. I still love my CR 97, if only they fixed the K/Ka band mix up I would run it every day!
 

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I am still using my CR97 occasionally. I run it mostly in the city close to home, and I use my R3 or Max360c for longer trips. I have been running my CR97 with TFSR off lately and bumping up the XK and Ka filters to 3 each. I always keep FDSr off. It seems to offer better performance for me with TFSR off.


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I am still using my CR97 occasionally. I run it mostly in the city close to home, and I use my R3 or Max360c for longer trips. I have been running my CR97 with TFSR off lately and bumping up the XK and Ka filters to 3 each. I always keep FDSr off. It seems to offer better performance for me with TFSR off.


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I've been playing around a little with my CR97 as well. I can't believe that I ever ran FDSR! What a joke and a pain in the @ss! I'm running Ka filter at 0, K filter at 2 and TFSR on or off depending on what mood I'm in. So far so good. I haven't thrown it out the window, not yet anyway!
 
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I recently started running my old Beltronics Vector 995 M4 with TSR on as it will actually filter out the majority of BSMs and notice that it too will occasionally BSM False as Ka Band to Hondas such as Pilots and CRVs. I think it was displaying 33.6. this is interesting, I think there is something inherently unique about the BSM system on Hondas that makes even my Beltronics false with Ka Band to them. None of my Beltronics models had issues with band confusion in the past but my Whistlers have, so this is a new finding.
 

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I recently started running my old Beltronics Vector 995 M4 with TSR on as it will actually filter out the majority of BSMs and notice that it too will occasionally BSM False as Ka Band to Hondas such as Pilots and CRVs. I think it was displaying 33.6. this is interesting, I think there is something inherently unique about the BSM system on Hondas that makes even my Beltronics false with Ka Band to them. None of my Beltronics models had issues with band confusion in the past but my Whistlers have, so this is a new finding.
i wonder if it has something to do with the sweeps. that's why the whistler cr97 alerts to KA when it's a k band alert according to Mike B
 

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I've been playing around a little with my CR97 as well. I can't believe that I ever ran FDSR! What a joke and a pain in the @ss! I'm running Ka filter at 0, K filter at 2 and TFSR on or off depending on what mood I'm in. So far so good. I haven't thrown it out the window, not yet anyway!
I am in full agreement with you on the FDSR/FDSr. It drove me crazy when I ran it on. I go back and forth on the TFSR on vs off. Sometimes it depends on my mood too. When I run TFSR on, I normally run both XK and Ka filters at 1. When I run TFSR off, I normally bump up the XK filter between 2-4 (normally 3), and the Ka filter to 2-3. I will normally use 2 for Ka filter on the Highway and Interstate, and 3 for the Ka filter in the urban/city environment. I haven’t abandoned or given up on the CR97 even though it does have a few quirks.


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I still seem to experience that with xk at 0, ka at 1 or 2 and TFSR off, the ka mixups are rare. TFSR on and filters at 1 its super quiet but the mix ups are plentiful. I don't know. The shared sweeps make it fast but maybe the cost is mixups if there is any delay from the filters. I am still running with the '97 from time to time....sort of like an old girl friend.
 

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I still seem to experience that with xk at 0, ka at 1 or 2 and TFSR off, the ka mixups are rare. TFSR on and filters at 1 its super quiet but the mix ups are plentiful. I don't know. The shared sweeps make it fast but maybe the cost is mixups if there is any delay from the filters. I am still running with the '97 from time to time....sort of like an old girl friend.
I seem to notice less K/Ka mixups with TFSR off, but my CR97 is quieter with TFSR on but at the cost off less sensitivity and warning range. Lately with TFSR off (and Ka Max ID on), it seems the main BSM offenders that give me a generic Ka or Ka33.8 with the CR97 are the Honda/Acura vehicles, and certain Dodge Chrysler Jeep vehicles including the Pacificas. I have noticed lately the GM BSMs like the Acadia/Enclave/Tahoe’s/Yukons/Cadillacs, etc are triggering K-band alerts as they should. I like your analogy of the CR97 being like an old girlfriend. Sort of like moving on to another girlfriend, but still wanting to occasionally hang out with your ex....lol.


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I have been using RSID with KA MAX and most of the Ka's falses are 33.8 or just "KA" on the display from the same vehicles you mentioned. I am not sure what the KA MAX actual benefit is. I notice more KA falses when its engaged. Haven't been able to get a real LEO Ka hit recently. Its like they are on vacation...I am not complaining about that.
 

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I flew back to CT from Idaho last evening, took my CR 97 out for a spin on a 170 mile loop of CT Rt 8 to I 95 S into NYC and then I-684 North back to CT. Was running XK filter 4 and Ka Filter 1 alternating between TSFR On and Off. With these filter settings, the CR 97 seems to reject most of the BSMs around congested southern CT and NYC. Also it did not 33.8 Ka band false to a brand new civic and brand new accord. It did once to a CRV when I was running TFSR off but it seems to stop when I turn it back on. I can live with this detector now. It is totally reasonable to run. I recently ran my old Bel Pro 300 with the convex lens that helps with off axis, but picks up every K band door opener for miles. Compared to my Pro 300, the CR 97 is much quieter. My Max II with the new IVT filter is the quietest, but this CR 97 is much better running higher filter settings.
 

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I flew back to CT from Idaho last evening, took my CR 97 out for a spin on a 170 mile loop of CT Rt 8 to I 95 S into NYC and then I-684 North back to CT. Was running XK filter 4 and Ka Filter 1 alternating between TSFR On and Off. With these filter settings, the CR 97 seems to reject most of the BSMs around congested southern CT and NYC. Also it did not 33.8 Ka band false to a brand new civic and brand new accord. It did once to a CRV when I was running TFSR off but it seems to stop when I turn it back on. I can live with this detector now. It is totally reasonable to run. I recently ran my old Bel Pro 300 with the convex lens that helps with off axis, but picks up every K band door opener for miles. Compared to my Pro 300, the CR 97 is much quieter. My Max II with the new IVT filter is the quietest, but this CR 97 is much better running higher filter settings.
What kind of K band performance do you see when applying these settings for filtering purposes? Connecticut is mostly Ka 34.7 from my time living there, and I used to neuter the crap out of K band to quiet things down on my Unidens. A few towns still have it (Orange, Southbury, Guilford, Wallingford, and Redding) from my experience. Nowadays, I see K band daily, and I do wonder how the CR97 would handle legit encounters at those high levels of filtering for those of us who see tons of K band.
 

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K band is still used in CT by the CT state police but it's rare. They almost always use laser, which the Whistler is a beast a picking up. It can actually pick up scatter and all VPR laser guns. K band is super rare in CT. I see it in maybe 5% of all my encounters. It's almost exclusively laser. Also when K band is used it's almost always C/O. In fact my best friend is a CT statie and when he was a rookie, they gave him a super old looking K band gun that he had to mount out of the window. I don't think he could even do I/O with such an old gun. Now that he has been on the CT state police for a while they gave him a Truspeed S. It seems like they are pretty much phasing out radar in CT. Time to get jammers.
 
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K band is still used in CT by the CT state police but it's rare. They almost always use laser, which the Whistler is a beast a picking up. It can actually pick up scatter and all VPR laser guns. K band is super rare in CT. I see it in maybe 5% of all my encounters. It's almost exclusively laser. Also when K band is used it's almost always C/O. In fact my best friend is a CT statie and when he was a rookie, they gave him a super old looking K band gun that he had to mount out of the window. I don't think he could even to I/O with such an old gun. Now that he has been on the CT state police for a while they gave him a Truspeed S. It seems like they are pretty much phasing out radar in CT. Time to get jammers.
Yeah the only time I see radar is around towns. I encountered one state trooper had 34.7 a year ago in Tolland County, but that's all from state police. A bunch of towns still have radar, and a few of them K band, but you're right that laser is the most prominent. Do you have any experience with K band encounters with the CR97 set up that way?
 

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Yeah the only time I see radar is around towns. I encountered one state trooper had 34.7 a year ago in Tolland County, but that's all from state police. A bunch of towns still have radar, and a few of them K band, but you're right that laser is the most prominent. Do you have any experience with K band encounters with the CR97 set up that way?
Unfortunately, no K band encounters with the CR 97 at all. I am trying to find some K band speed signs to test it against. No cops using K band around here though. I am also thinking of parking my car in front of the local Honda dealership and experimenting with the different filter modes to see if there is a way to set up the filtering to prevent Ka Band BSM falsing. Hopefully I don't get in trouble for trespassing at the Honda dealership. Could you imagine trying to explain to the cop why you are loitering at the car dealership ?
 

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What kind of K band performance do you see when applying these settings for filtering purposes? Connecticut is mostly Ka 34.7 from my time living there, and I used to neuter the crap out of K band to quiet things down on my Unidens. A few towns still have it (Orange, Southbury, Guilford, Wallingford, and Redding) from my experience. Nowadays, I see K band daily, and I do wonder how the CR97 would handle legit encounters at those high levels of filtering for those of us who see tons of K band.
I see a lot of K-band in the city where I live (mostly C/O). The CR97 is ok against K-band, but it isn’t entirely consistent against K-band in my experience. When I run TFSR on and X/K filter at 1, it does ok, but I prefer to run TFSR off with the X/K filter at 3 or 4. It performs better against K and Ka with TFSR off in my opinion, but I normally bump the filters due to the increased false alarms with TFSR off. Running the CR97 with TFSR on and the X/K filter at 3 or 4 will make the CR97 fairly quiet, but the CR97 does seem to take a performance hit with TFSR on especially on K-band in my experience.


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I am trying xk at 5 and ka at 3. No TFSR or FDSR and its real quiet in City mode with the gps redlight camera alerts back on. Also less k to ka mix ups. Really usable like this with respect to bsm and the reduced mis-id issue. Not much enforcement going on this week in Long Island so I don't know how numbed Ka is at 3. I am not worried about the xk at 5 as I haven't seen k here for about a year and a half. Generally I see loads of ka and occasional laser. Waiting to get hit with Ka to see if ka3 impacts range in a bad way. I think it may, but no real proof yet. I can't get over how much quieter it is like this but I am afraid I killed ka range.
 

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I am trying xk at 5 and ka at 3. No TFSR or FDSR and its real quiet in City mode with the gps redlight camera alerts back on. Also less k to ka mix ups. Really usable like this with respect to bsm and the reduced mis-id issue. Not much enforcement going on this week in Long Island so I don't know how numbed Ka is at 3. I am not worried about the xk at 5 as I haven't seen k here for about a year and a half. Generally I see loads of ka and occasional laser. Waiting to get hit with Ka to see if ka3 impacts range in a bad way. I think it may, but no real proof yet. I can't get over how much quieter it is like this but I am afraid I killed ka range.
As long as you have TFSR off, I don’t think the Ka filter at 3 will kill Ka range. Others may have different opinions on this. It would likely have more of an adverse effect with TFSR on based on my experience. You are fortunate that you don’t see any or much K to be able to crank that filter up to 5. I would just try Ka at 3, and adjust it up or down based on the results you see with it at that level (if needed). I have been primarily using my CR97 in the city when I use it, and I have tried using the city mode some too as my wife and daughter don’t like all the alerts in the city, and it does quiet down the CR97 especially with the filters cranked up some. My family (unfortunately...lol) are not counter measure enthusiasts.


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Still getting k/ka mix ups. A load of them today but it was pretty quiet. Switched back to xk=0, ka=1, FDSR, no TFSR....lowered the volume and nomix ups....for the congested ride home. It was alerting for every bsm, but I think its running at its most sensitive this way. I will have to look at running it lower on my windshield and try again to use the periscope leds with the volume off!. I still think the extra delay from filters or TFSR is compounding the mix up.
 

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