Radar DFR7 Fail, Constant Owned by Park Ranger with 35.5

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Just a week after I pull in a 3+ mile 35.5 detection, I get constant owned. Very disconcerting.
What do you think went wrong?
 

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I agree the terrain, curves, and vegetation didn't help you at all. My parents are park hosts for several of the local state parks. I've never encountered park rangers running radar but now I know to be on the look out! Thanks for sharing!!!
 

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I'm not sure anything necessarily went wrong. That appeared to be a pretty sharp turn right into the ranger. I'm guessing the 3+ mile detection was over a pretty flat terrain. Terrain and geography are important variables to consider.
Yeah I totally get that, I wouldn't expect any crazy long distance detection in this case, but at least a few seconds of warning would be expected?
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I agree the terrain, curves, and vegetation didn't help you at all. My parents are park hosts for several of the local state parks. I've never encountered park rangers running radar but now I know to be on the look out! Thanks for sharing!!!
Can't speak for any other state parks, but every time I drive through Pinnacle I see a ranger with C/O 35.5 and I've had several friends get stopped through there. 50 mph is super easy on that road.
 

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It's hard with a lot of vegetation, especially with 35.5. The vegetaion sucks up the signal. When you face a lot of 35.5, especially in difficult terrain or against I/O, you want the most sensitive thing you can get. I've got a video somewhere during a test that was just as bad or worse than this.
 

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It's hard with a lot of vegetation, especially with 35.5. The vegetaion sucks up the signal. When you face a lot of 35.5, especially in difficult terrain or against I/O, you want the most sensitive thing you can get. I've got a video somewhere during a test that was just as bad or worse than this.
Which detector? Would be interested to see the video.

@ARkaband Any chance he was using I/O? That looks ridiculous for CO.
 

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It's hard with a lot of vegetation, especially with 35.5. The vegetation sucks up the signal. When you face a lot of 35.5, especially in difficult terrain or against I/O, you want the most sensitive thing you can get. I've got a video somewhere during a test that was just as bad or worse than this.
Hopefully I'll be upgrading to an R3 or R7 for Christmas
Which detector? Would be interested to see the video.

Any chance he was using I/O? That looks ridiculous for CO.
How do you know it was C/O?
I doubt it, I got an alert instantly as I rounded the corner, so he would've had to have a super quick reaction time. I drive through here a decent amount and every single ranger I see uses C/O.
 

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Which detector? Would be interested to see the video.

@ARkaband Any chance he was using I/O? That looks ridiculous for CO.
I was looking for it but I couldn't find it. IIRC, I had one on the RS North Course and going the reverse direction around the BB course. The RS North one was mostly on Axis and nearly as bad, the other one was 90 degrees off, like the above video started.
 

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to be fair, he could not ticket you at that angle because of cosine effect.

your car was at more than 10 degrees angle making the reading incorrectly, in stationary mode the reading is always in the target favor.In moving mode it is anyone's guess.

I would count this as as save.

But yeah , terrain can have a great effect on the detection range.I do agree that the range was bellow expected , but even with an R7 I had similar results on a 35.5 test I did.Althought the R7 did warn me before the turn.
 

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Yea even with R7, I've had some really odd 35.5 detections, even with constant on.

 

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I've seen the same thing happen with 35.5 on my DFR6, being almost certain it was C/O.

35.5 certainly isn't the DFR's strong suit. I almost only see C/O 35.5 up here and it's why I upgraded to the R3. Even with that, I usually only see a quarter of a mile of alert with the dense vegetation up here. 35.5 is brutal as it is, and when you add any sort of foliage, terrain, or weakness in a detector, it becomes deadly, even with C/O.
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@ARkaband where do you have your detector mounted?
 

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I've seen the same thing happen with 35.5 on my DFR6, being almost certain it was C/O.

35.5 certainly isn't the DFR's strong suit. I almost only see C/O 35.5 up here and it's why I upgraded to the R3. Even with that, I usually only see a quarter of a mile of alert with the dense vegetation up here. 35.5 is brutal as it is, and when you add any sort of foliage, terrain, or weakness in a detector, it becomes deadly, even with C/O.
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@ARkaband where do you have your detector mounted?
I've seen the same thing happen with 35.5 on my DFR6, being almost certain it was C/O.

35.5 certainly isn't the DFR's strong suit. I almost only see C/O 35.5 up here and it's why I upgraded to the R3. Even with that, I usually only see a quarter of a mile of alert with the dense vegetation up here. 35.5 is brutal as it is, and when you add any sort of foliage, terrain, or weakness in a detector, it becomes deadly, even with C/O.
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@ARkaband where do you have your detector mounted?
As high up as I can get, over my steering wheel.
 
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I dunno man....I'm not convinced that was CO. There's a metal post with no parking sign which I'd expect might/could/would have offered a reflection for an earlier alert if it were CO. I'm inclined to say that either he's a ninja I/Oer or just happened to turn it on approaching the curve in anticipation of vehicles coming around the bend.
 

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I dunno man....I'm not convinced that was CO. There's a metal post with no parking sign which I'd expect might/could/would have offered a reflection for an earlier alert if it were CO. I'm inclined to say that either he's a ninja I/Oer or just happened to turn it on approaching the curve in anticipation of vehicles coming around the bend.
I agree with you on all fronts, I just think it’s C/O because that’s all I’ve seen the rangers run and he turned off into the parking area for the trail after passing me.
 

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That mount angle doesn't look optimal to me given the slope of the windshield. Can you try bending the mount in order to level it?

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The picture is definitely an illusion because it’s mounted just about perfectly level with the road, maybe like 2 degrees up. I can’t actually bend the mount anymore to make it go down because my windshield is so sloped.
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I'm guessing it wasn't C/O.
Looks like he saw you and hit the button.
He’s got a damn quick finger then, because on the very first alert you can’t even see him from the dashcam.
 
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The picture is definitely an illusion because it’s mounted just about perfectly level with the road, maybe like 2 degrees up. I can’t actually bend the mount anymore to make it go down because my windshield is so sloped.
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He’s got a damn quick finger then, because on the very first alert you can’t even see him from the dashcam.
Have any pics from the front looking through the glass?
 

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