new (to me) car + speeding ticket = DFR7

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i recently got a stage 2+ mkV GTI and almost got a RD before i even got the car but i figured i'm old and distinguished now... i won't have to worry about tickets.

first, the car is way faster than i imagined... second, speed is deceptive in that car....

driving through the washington countryside about 30 miles from the coast heading back to oregon and i got popped 71 in a 55... but dude did me a solid and knocked it down to 65 in a 55. i thought i was going about 60.

got online and did my due diligence and based on my needs and budget decided that a uniden DFR7 was the way to go...

came loaded with the most recent firmware flashed and the july 2019 database installed... i thought i would have update but everything was current. funny, that b/c the july db revision isn't listed on DFR7 support page. the most recent revision listed there is from june 2018.

found a previous post here with some recommended settings... so i'll go with those unless anyone wants to post a link to their set-up or suggest them here...

car isn't a daily driver... mostly for running errands and road trips around the pacific northwest... i got the RD for the road trips part...

i'm into gadgets but i'm pretty uneducated when it comes to RD's. i did some research as to which bands are used here and up in washington... and some general reading about the uniden i got. any recommendations on what to peruse to expand my knowledge would be greatly apprecatied!

back in the old days i had a escort passport and when i first moved to oregon about 20 years ago there was a random (no name) radar detector on the free table of my building... i ended up getting a power cord for it and used it for a few years... saved me a couple of times but it was primitive as far as RD's go. on off and mute were the only buttons. lol. this is my first new RD in about 15 years.
 
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It happens, generally a good idea to get a lawyer, and let them plead your ticket down. at 10 over, you'll most likely end up with a non-moving, no points violation, similar fine. cost you about 200$ or so more up front for the lawyer, but will save you immensely in the long run on insurance premiums.

The DFR7 is a good budget detector. I still have a couple lying around myself, it will serve you reasonably.

Personally I leave all bands on, however I don't have too many BSM's or falses where I live, so the occasionally noise is very tolerable where I live when in highway mode. Other area's highway mode isn't even usable.
 

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Agree with @bkayrac, get a lawyer to work it for you. Based on how many accidents and tickets my kids have had over the past couple of years, you generally come out ahead financially, especially in regard to the insurance savings.

Nice car. My wife has a Mini Cooper S and it's a similar feeling driving her car. You feel like you're doing 45 mph and look down at the speedometer to see that you're doing 60. Good luck with the handling of your ticket.
 

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Welcome to RDF! Sorry to hear about your ticket. The DFR7 is good detector to start with for getting back into the countermeasure game. Running Waze is also a great tool, so I would suggest adding that to your arsenal if you’re not using it already.
 

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Welcome to the forum! I think the biggest thing is to learn the differences between bands. With older detectors I didn’t pay attention to the differences but with modern false sources it’s important. KA is almost always a LEO so brake immediately if above PSL. K band has noise from cars with blind spot monitors but you will usually get a more consistent longer ramp up of tones from a legit threat. X isn’t used in most places. Laser is best combated using Waze if you don’t have jammers.

Past that you can start logging the frequencies you encounter to get an idea of what LEOs are using in your area.
 

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Ya welcome!! I’m in Canada so I can’t offer any real advice. I’m just posting to say uniden is great offering really great detectors at low price points.

Just find a base setting recommended by others. And then thoroughly read and understand each feature in the settings menu and then “play” with the settings to find your “sweet spot”.
 

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Nice car! I had a Mk6 GTI with a K04 and all supporting mods. Was a mid 12 second sleeper and loved it. Yeah, do like suggested here and get a lawyer. Not worth getting your insurance jacked up for a 10+ ticket. Oh and welcome to the board :)
 

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thanks to all the commenters... to clarify... the officer reduced my speed on the ticket from 71 down to 65 so it's only 10 mph over the posted limit. haven't gotten a ticket in forever and my insurance company only really checks your driving record if you lapse and then renew coverage. worse comes to worse i'll take the defense driving class and get the point removed that way... an hour of the lawyers time would be 3x the cost of the ticket. i'm willing to chalk this one up to the game and just pay it outright and move on.

i'm driving down to eugene on tuesday so that will be the first real test of the DFR7... looking forward to it!
 

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Welcome to the Forum!
I've found that if the DFR7 alerts to Ka then it's almost always legit.
I think I've had only 2-3 Ka alerts where I didn't see a Leo....of course at night it can be hard to see the source.
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thanks to all the commenters... to clarify... the officer reduced my speed on the ticket from 71 down to 65 so it's only 10 mph over the posted limit. haven't gotten a ticket in forever and my insurance company only really checks your driving record if you lapse and then renew coverage. worse comes to worse i'll take the defense driving class and get the point removed that way... an hour of the lawyers time would be 3x the cost of the ticket. i'm willing to chalk this one up to the game and just pay it outright and move on.

i'm driving down to eugene on tuesday so that will be the first real test of the DFR7... looking forward to it!
Hey!

I am in Eugene, welcome. Yes, these cars are deceptively fast. I have the same issue....no tune though.

Some thoughts:
1) Washington is much more aggressive with speed enforcement. Lidar and airplane VASCAR are used too. You can keep up with VASCAR using Highway Radar or JBV1(Offline) on Android if you use that platform.
2) Oregon does not have the funding to do traffic enforcement like Washington. Its much mellower here.
3) Definitely use Waze
4) A dual head TMG would cover the front of that car really well, and is a simple and is an economical lidar solution. I can send you pics of mine if you like.
5) Don't forget pacing and I/O radar shots.

You can PM me if you have questions.
 

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Having grown up in Klickitat County, Wa. Just across The Columbia River, I always noticed a difference between the two States.
The WSP wouldn't hesitate to cite for even just 6 MPH over the PSL, even out in the unpopulated areas of The State.
And out East ( currently live in PA up along The Delaware River close to where PA, NJ, and NY come together) I have noticed a real difference in the attitudes of The LEOs here in PA vs NJ and NY.
Really does remind Me of Oregon vs Washington.
Here in PA the State Police mostly patrol I-84 and leave the rest to local officers.
I much prefer this system vs NJ and NY where the rather robotic SP seem to do the majority of the traffic enforcement with City Officers doing "In Town" work as well as the roads close to Their Town.
It does seem that things Are different in The SE .
I guess it is different strokes for different folks around the Country!!
I will say that My Wife and I really enjoy Our little part of The Country here in Pike County, PA!
Doc
PS: When I lived out West last, about 20 years ago, I had some Local LEOs as Friends and They even thought the SP were almost a "Different Breed" in attitudes and the way They interacted with the motering public!
 
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i've noticed that once you get north of chehalis on i-5 there are a lot more WSP troopers... it seems between vancouver and there i see a lot more county police... and as someone mentioned above... down here in oregon we just don't have the same kind of police presence. a lot of state police are also local police in some of the more rural counties... i just don't see as many state troopers here....

i grew up in new england and especially in mass where i'm from the "staties" are EVERYWHERE. and that's not hyperbole. and they don't mess around. same with rhode island... who incidentally have the nicest and most expensive state trooper uniforms...

i went to college down in georgia and lived there for 13 years before i moved to oregon back in 2000. i saw more ga state patrol in the city than i actually did on the highways. much like here in oregon... georgia state police have huge territory's to patrol so their attention is divided.

i've driven cross country several times since i've lived out here and i can drive from oregon to like missouri w/out ever seeing a patrol car. as soon as you hit the mississippi river that all changes. it's always a bit startling to see such a heavy police presence on the roads after 1500 miles of wide open roads and 70-75 mph speed limits...

never had a run in the the PA state patrol but driving from massachusetts to georgia a couple times a year when i was school i remember that virginia and new jersey were the worst... and for some reason lots of speed traps in south carolina.
 

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On that stretch of I5 that @zuul mentioned above, I once counted at least 10 WSP cars clustered on an on-ramp to SB I5!
Just don't see the wisdom in that many troopers all sitting there at tax payer cost... I think I had just read something in the paper about" being able to pull over mass amounts of scoff-laws" or something like that.
Seemed like it was just like something the WSP would do...
Sad really......
Control thru intimidating tactics IMO.
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Hey zuul, check out a book called " The Rules of the Game" by a Leo ( not sure if He is retired now or not) named J. Scott Stevens.
It's on Kindle and is a great read!
Some seriously good ideas in it IMO!!
Doc
 
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went to car show about 30 miles south of Portland today... so the first time on the road with the DFR7.

i have to say i'm somewhat impressed. hardly any false alerts around town on highway mode. none in city mode.

when i actually got on the highway i got a few K band false alerts. other than that... nothing. i need to figure out how to turn the volume up b/c with my stereo up i could barely hear the alerts but other than that i'm pretty psyched.

decided that the mph display was too distracting so i just left it on voltage. my watch does altitude and my instrument cluster and watch both have a compass.

i think i might i have to have it higher up on my windshield though... i realized where i had it placed the back seat headrests were probably blocking the rear/360 sensor thingy...

cool little gadget. glad i got one before they are out of stock everywhere...
 

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went to car show about 30 miles south of Portland today... so the first time on the road with the DFR7.

i have to say i'm somewhat impressed. hardly any false alerts around town on highway mode. none in city mode.

when i actually got on the highway i got a few K band false alerts. other than that... nothing. i need to figure out how to turn the volume up b/c with my stereo up i could barely hear the alerts but other than that i'm pretty psyched.

decided that the mph display was too distracting so i just left it on voltage. my watch does altitude and my instrument cluster and watch both have a compass.

i think i might i have to have it higher up on my windshield though... i realized where i had it placed the back seat headrests were probably blocking the rear/360 sensor thingy...

cool little gadget. glad i got one before they are out of stock everywhere...
Zuul,
I run My DFR7 on Highway mode with the K filter on and that's pretty much all I have needed here in The area where PA,NJ, and BY come together.
Even on Our occasional forays down close to NYC it stays pretty quiet unless there happens to be a Mazda CX5 around....I guess it could also be called a CX5 detector!
Lol
Doc
P.S. There's some good stuff here if You haven't seen it yet!
 

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Zuul,
I run My DFR7 on Highway mode with the K filter on and that's pretty much all I have needed here in The area where PA,NJ, and BY come together.
Even on Our occasional forays down close to NYC it stays pretty quiet unless there happens to be a Mazda CX5 around....I guess it could also be called a CX5 detector!
Lol
Doc
P.S. There's some good stuff here if You haven't seen it yet!
Thanks Doc!
I appreciate the links and I need to check out that book you recommended. I don't use my Kindle enough...

I was curious which would be more effective... using the K filter. or setting K band on narrow.

I will try the K filter next time out!
 

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made it to Eugene safe and sound. Got a KA alert. though it was false but kept getting stronger. sure enough. state police had someone pulled over on the side of the road... ABOUT 3 MILES AHEAD!!! I can't believe the range. Very impressive.

Driving around Eugene no false alerts on highway mode! Crazy.

So far I'm a very satisfied customer!
 

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made it to Eugene safe and sound. Got a KA alert. though it was false but kept getting stronger. sure enough. state police had someone pulled over on the side of the road... ABOUT 3 MILES AHEAD!!! I can't believe the range. Very impressive.

Driving around Eugene no false alerts on highway mode! Crazy.

So far I'm a very satisfied customer!
I think You'll find the off-axis detection very decent as well!
If You haven't seen the following, it's worth checking it out! I added a new post there re: off-axis detection.

Any LRD or even DFR folks out there?
 
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Welcome to the forum!
I was on my bike a few years back and got popped 124 in a 65.... Cop did me a solid and wrote it for 99. Less than 200 yrs and the PSL went to 75.....
Went home, came here. Asked some questions and picked up a STI Magnum that served me well for a couple of years.
 

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