Who is behind ALP? What is the relationship to BRD?

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Just kind of a curiosity, but who makes ALP? @BestRadarDetectors you obviously are part of the team, what is your relationship to them?

And, on a similar vein, what is the relationship between the NetRadar and Uniden? It's "common knowledge" that the NetRadar is the installed version of the R3, but is this an actual partnership with Uniden or ALP purchasing the same device from Attowave or what?
 

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My understanding is that BRD is ALP's U.S. franchise, and that they are also involved in working with customers like us to develop the technology.
Uniden and Net Radar do apparently share the same hardware platform but the firmware/software platform is unique to each RD.
 

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BRD is the US distributor (runs ALpriorityusa.com), if you live in the US and order ALP it comes via him. He also helps the main company in Croatia with the latest guns and data so they can keep the system up to date. He also runs BestRadarDetectors.net
 

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Tom is the pipeline between Croatia / Usa . Every day i cant stop thinking " what a great technology iam using ...the anti- death ray is operational/ efficient at the push of the button".
 

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Just kind of a curiosity, but who makes ALP? @BestRadarDetectors you obviously are part of the team, what is your relationship to them?

And, on a similar vein, what is the relationship between the NetRadar and Uniden? It's "common knowledge" that the NetRadar is the installed version of the R3, but is this an actual partnership with Uniden or ALP purchasing the same device from Attowave or what?
Net Radar has nothing to do with Uniden and Net Radar is not an installed R3 so if that's common knowledge its wrong information. Net Radar is designed by us exclusively for the ALP and Attowave is the company that owns the technology used in Uniden & Net Radar as well as many other radar detector manufactures.
 

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Net Radar has nothing to do with Uniden and Net Radar is not an installed R3 so if that's common knowledge its wrong information. Net Radar is designed by us exclusively for the ALP and Attowave is the company that owns the technology used in Uniden & Net Radar as well as many other radar detector manufactures.
@Vortex i think you’ve mentioned the NetRadar as an installed R3 before?

Anyways thanks for the info
 

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@Vortex i think you’ve mentioned the NetRadar as an installed R3 before?

Anyways thanks for the info
The way it was explained to me, sort of yes, but that’s somewhat simplified.

Attowave created the platform used in the R series. Uniden has exclusive rights to use that platform in a windshield mount. BRD uses it (with also exclusive rights for a remote mount?) for the NR DSP.

That said, while they share the same underlying radar detection platform, they otherwise have a different feature set, interface, and so forth.

When people say they wish there was a remote version of the R3 so they can get that level of performance in a custom installed form factor, well that’s essentially what the NR DSP is.

Again though, different companies, features, price, and so forth, but they share the same underlying platform.

If my understanding is incorrect in any way, I’m sure BRD will correct me and I will be grateful. :)
 
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The way it was explained to me, sort of yes, but that’s somewhat simplified.

Attowave created the platform used in the R series. Uniden has exclusive rights to use that platform in a windshield mount. BRD uses it (with also exclusive rights for a remote mount?) for the NR DSP.

That said, while they share the same underlying radar detection platform, they otherwise have a different feature set, interface, and so forth.

When people say they wish there was a remote version of the R3 so they can get that level of performance in a custom installed form factor, well that’s essentially what the NR DSP is.

Again though, different companies, features, price, and so forth, but they share the same underlying platform.

If my understanding is incorrect in any way, I’m sure BRD will correct me and I will be grateful. :)
Out of curiosity, do you know if the BSM filtering is the same between them, or is that part of the firmware developed by BRD/Uniden independently?
 

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Out of curiosity, do you know if the BSM filtering is the same between them, or is that part of the firmware developed by BRD/Uniden independently?
I’m not totally sure tbh. I’m not a huge fan of adding the NR DSP to the ALP so I mostly only run it for testing and for quick video clips. I would assume they’re the same though.

That said, the R3 has K Block and K Narrow. The NR DSP has both proper K band segmentation and the new Assisted Radar Filter. So they have different additional tools to deal with BSM’s, but I would guess the BSM filtering itself is comparable. Someone else could probably give you better info on that.
 

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My understanding is that BRD approached Uniden about entering the market again. From what I remember he was looking to capitalize on a stagnant market and really shake things up. Basically establish some type of partnership with someone willing and capable.This seems to be why BRD has historically been the go-to for Uniden products, and how he secured exclusive rights for a remote version of Attowave's DSP technology which is used in the R series RDs and NetRadar DSP.

So this all from shit that was posted in threads on here a while back, and from my memory. I also seem to remember BRD mentioning things like essentially being the "approval guy". One of the benchmarks was dethroning the Redline as King. Basically providing feedback on the platform before the R1/R3 were ready for beta testing before their initial release. He's also talked about seeing prototypes, like that of the R7, and being aware of these products long before they reach the public. And helped coordinate a visit with the engineers for BSM filtering and multaradar detection development.

He saw an opportunity, had the business and market knowledge to make it happen, and found a partnering group to seal the deal.

These are my general assumptions based on what I read and remember. Now if he comes back and says CiHKAL is full of shit I've either completely misread everything or I'm delusional. To be clear though, I'm not speaking for BRD; just giving you a forum members perspective on some of this.

I think he's established something similar with ALP. He is not Uniden, not ALP, but has some type of partnership it seems that goes beyond selling the items.
 
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Sounds to me like a lot of lines are being drawn here that don't connect....

The platform that runs the R3 and Net Radar are the same, but they are separate products completely. Each company writes it's own firmware and algorithms for BSM filters and just uses hardware from attowave. Sure performance wise they are pretty similar but it's also like comparing an Audi R8 to a Lamborghini...

Sure there's the same engine used between some models - but they are tuned and operated on completely different models.

BRD has a relationship with both manufacturers which they are active with in pushing for and assisting with updates and improvements. They provide support for the products they sell too. This doesn't mean they have even an ounce of ownership or say so with either company. Although any good manufacturer does look to its partners for input on products. Some more so than others.
 

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Sounds to me like a lot of lines are being drawn here that don't connect....

The platform that runs the R3 and Net Radar are the same, but they are separate products completely.
Toyota and BMW famously teamed up recently to develop the platform that underpins both the Supra and the Z4, respectively. It’s a lot more cost effective to do so for some things. It sounds like Tom helped push Uniden to work with Attowave to develop a new platform that could also be used to underpin the NetRadar DSP, and everyone benefits. Attowave gets sufficient buy-in to justify developing a new platform, while neither Uniden nor NR have to foot the full costs on their own.

There are lots of nuances to how this all went down that I have no clue about, including cost charging and the order of events and professional services rendered. Did Tom push Uniden to fund the new platform but secretly work with Attowave separately to ensure language in the deal was limited to windshield detectors so he could have them build the NR DSP without the full R&D, piggy backing on all the expensive work paid for by Uniden? Probably not, as Uniden wouldn’t be happy about that and is probably too smart to get duped that way even if they tried. Did his involvement result in compensation, even if it was simply a lessening of monetary investments (price) required to use the platform for NR DSP?

Isn’t it fun to speculate wildly about things we really know nothing about?
 

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