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So, this guy is saying that the speed sign and LEO had the exact same frequency? Had to have been an ER product for auto-lockouts. If you are using JBV1 @johnboy00 isn't there a specific frequency it locks out, not the entire band at that GPS location.


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August 2019: When GPS is too smart by half
Near my home is a high school. The town decided to install one of those annoying speed monitors that tell how fast you are going. For some reason, in their infinite wisdom, they put the monitor beyond the school zone where you're heading away from the place you should be cautious. My old GPS-enabled detector had long since memorized this location and was silent as I approached.
When I purchased my V1, I was afraid I was taking a step back by now being alerted to all false alarms I could no longer mark. But there was something about Mike's GPS logic that made me think V1 was a good investment.
A few days ago, I was approaching the monitor when my Valentine registered two signals instead of one. Sure enough, some enterprising LEO had decided to make quota by parking around the corner, just behind the speed indicator.
I now completely understand why Mike designed his detector the way he did. Thank you, Mike. No more GPS detectors for me.
Raymond Sturz
Cortlandt Manor, NY
 

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Yeah, I saw that, and I thought he was angling to get published by bashing GPS. V1Driver or JBV1 probably would’ve helped him out by alerting him to a new source rather than relying on him to get lucky and notice it himself.
 

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If enabled, JBV1 would have had that sign locked out +/- 8 MHz. It still would have shown the 2nd new signal as a valid alert though even if it were within the default 17 MHz frequency range of the sign.

In my opinion and experience there's nothing wrong with GPS features as long as the processing of GPS situations is not rudimentary. That's where some detectors are failing. :)
 

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If enabled, JBV1 would have had that sign locked out +/- 8 MHz. It still would have shown the 2nd new signal as a valid alert though even if it were within the default 17 MHz frequency range of the sign.

In my opinion and experience there's nothing wrong with GPS features as long as the processing of GPS situations is not rudimentary. That's where some detectors are failing. :)
The use of an app provides more processing power and memory storage than any detector allowing more sophisticated handling of lockouts. I believe V1D or JBV1 would have handled this situation without problem and I doubt either Escort's or Uniden's detectors would have.
 

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I’ve run into a very similar situation and JBV1 saved me. Speed signs locked out on a primary street. Can see the lockout. Nice and quiet. Turn onto school street. JBV1 alerts new signal ahead at exact same frequency. LEO sitting in elementary school parking lot.

Coming back through 10 minutes later, and he had a customer pulled over.

LEO sits there so much, I’ve had to whitelist him. Who else can you do that with?
 

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If enabled, JBV1 would have had that sign locked out +/- 8 MHz. It still would have shown the 2nd new signal as a valid alert though even if it were within the default 17 MHz frequency range of the sign.

In my opinion and experience there's nothing wrong with GPS features as long as the processing of GPS situations is not rudimentary. That's where some detectors are failing. :)
Speaking of detectors failing because of GPS lockouts, my Radenso XP did this the other day.

I was traveling into a lockout and simultaneously ran into legit K band that was oncoming from the opposite direction. Not only did it mute the alert but long after I left the lockout area it latched onto the legitimate signal and continued to mute it for the entire duration of the encounter.

You can't trust any detector that doesn't have the following abilities when it comes to GPS lockouts:

1. Bogey tone (Unique for every individual bogey)
2. Bogey counter
3. Precise frequency read out
 
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You can't trust any detector that doesn't have the following abilities when it comes to GPS lockouts:

1. Bogey tone
2. Bogey counter
3. Precise frequency read out
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Or at least an RD with an App that covers those three things IE a Valentine One with JBV1 for example (more importantly JBV1 does the best job with GPS Lockouts that I have seen).
 

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Valentine Moments of the Months

“Temporarily out of stock”

“Check back in 2 weeks”

“Waiting on parts shipment to come in”

“The price will go up to $400 something”

“Should have parts in 2 weeks”

“2 weeks”

“In by Valentines Day”

Think I’ll win a prize if I submit this?
 

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Valentine Moments of the Months

“Temporarily out of stock”

“Check back in 2 weeks”

“Waiting on parts shipment to come in”

“The price will go up to $400 something”

“Should have parts in 2 weeks”

“2 weeks”

“In by Valentines Day”

Think I’ll win a prize if I submit this?
Go for it
 

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You get this fancy Valentine Research vest when you win Moment of the Month. I'll try to post a pic when I get home
 

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I still believe that at the price a gps chip costs, it should be present in every radar detector under the sun, for the under PSL mute/low volume. I'm ok with no autolockouts.
 

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I still believe that at the price a gps chip costs, it should be present in every radar detector under the sun, for the under PSL mute/low volume. I'm ok with no autolockouts.
GPS chips are cheap. It's the royalties to Escort and the lawsuits (even if you pay the royalties) that are expensive!
 

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GPS chips are cheap. It's the royalties to Escort and the lawsuits (even if you pay the royalties) that are expensive!
I doubt royalties have to be paid for anything but autolocks.
 

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I doubt you read these threads.
Escort is suing Uniden over the use of GPS lockouts in their detectors: https://www.rdforum.org/index.php?threads/70187/
Radenso pays Escort a royalty to use GPS and lockouts (not autolockouts) in their detectors. Escort sued them anyway:
I doubt I don't read these threads.
Radenso pays Escort a royalty to use GPS and lockouts in their detectors. Let's agree to consider lockouts, autolockouts, the detector falling in love with a signal then having a broken heart then locking out the signal on that specific location because the memories are unbearable, and so on, as being the same thing, for the sake of the discussion.

I am talking about GPS to measure speed and adjusting the volume accordingly, and NOT to correlate a specific location with a signal - specific or generic.
 

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I am talking about GPS to measure speed and adjusting the volume accordingly, and NOT to correlate a specific location with a signal - specific or generic.
I believe the patent on GPS use in a detector covers that feature. That’s why VR created the Savvy accessory to use your vehicle’s speed instead of GPS for that purpose.
 

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I don't think bogey count gets enough recognition. It's equally important to me as arrows. If the anticipated Radenso release includes signal count, my R7 will wind up in the marketplace.
 

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I don't think bogey count gets enough recognition. It's equally important to me as arrows. If the anticipated Radenso release includes signal count, my R7 will wind up in the marketplace.
Agreed. The R7 only intermittently displays multiple signals (it cycles between your current speed and how many signals are present) and there's no other differentiation with X/K-band; only Ka-band has a bogey tone.

The V1's ability to communicate, even without an app in this case, is still above all others IMO. I can read the bogey count LED while driving directly into the sun, while all those OLED displays are just washed out.

I recently had a close call while driving through a lockout area with the R7 where it muted a secondary K-band signal from a LEO ahead until I was nearly on top of them. The lockout was at 24.110 while the LEO was 24.160. My V1 would have made it immediately clear that there was a second signal where usually there isn't one.
 

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