ALP Bug - weak GPS sensor

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after the last update it said that my gps antenna is missing. It worked fine for the last 3 years.
Last update resets all your settings. You need to re-load a new config file with your GPS re-enabled as well as all your other settings adjusted.
 

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Thanks for posting this. This device is on my shortlist for an install this winter and I have had placement issues before with GPS/Sat radio antenna. I will definitely figure out the best spot before installation. On one car even under the plastic cover where the wipers are had some interference (maybe the wipers themselves?)
 

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I did a reset twice before loading the config file. I tried the gps directly to the g port and still don't see it.
 

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I did a reset twice before loading the config file. I tried the gps directly to the g port and still don't see it.
Do you have rg2 or rg3 module connected. I yes , GPS need to be connected to the module not cpu.
 

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Do you have rg2 or rg3 module connected. I yes , GPS need to be connected to the module not cpu.
It is connected to rg2. it hasn't changed in the last 4 years. I did a configuration without gps now so I don't get the warning. Maybe I need to just replace the gps. I don't know what happened to it. Maybe the heat got to it. The truck sat at the airport for 10 days.
 

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When I was up in the farm country, I noticed that both my ALP and RCM gps would act funny. I have perfect view on the sky, RCM gps under dash and ALP gps by the driver door. I'd get constant gps signal loss from the ALP. RCM would lose gps signal as well and also give incorrect gps speeds ( I'd be driving 60 and it would say I'm going 70, 80, 45, etc)
 

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I went though the Lincoln Tunnel 2 weeks ago in bumper to bumper traffic and had Blue LED the entire lenght of the tunnel. Your antenna must be having an issue if its clear of obstruction.

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Tom, interesting that you mention this. I was on the Lincoln tunnel today and the led was blue for a few minutes until I got to halfway into the tunnel then it turned yellow on me. I was going above the 18 mph threshold and the system did not turn back blue until I exited the tunnel. So it seems to be opposite of your experience.
 

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I loose GPS in Lincoln tunnel as well - Waze does work though.
 

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I loose GPS in Lincoln tunnel as well - Waze does work though.
Of course you will lose GPS Signal in a tunnel. The ALP System will however still protect you for a few minutes when you lose GPS Signal completely (Not Weak Signal.... No Signal at all). After several minutes the system will come back out of Defense Mode until it see's active signal again. In normal driving you will not lose GPS Signal continually for several minutes.
 

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I realize this - let's be honest, no one is getting a speeding ticket in any NYC tunnels.
 

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I realize this - let's be honest, no one is getting a speeding ticket in any NYC tunnels.
How about the lower level GW or VZ bridge? I will lose signal down there. But that's not the point I'm trying to make. To me, I was in the Lincoln Tunnel for less than 5 minutes and I lost defense mode which is contrary to what was stated ( ie bumper to bumper traffic and defense mode the whole length of the tunnel unless I am misinterpreting bumper to bumper traffic).
 

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How about the lower level GW or VZ bridge? I will lose signal down there. But that's not the point I'm trying to make. To me, I was in the Lincoln Tunnel for less than 5 minutes and I lost defense mode which is contrary to what was stated ( ie bumper to bumper traffic and defense mode the whole length of the tunnel unless I am misinterpreting bumper to bumper traffic).
Is it going to take you over 5 minutes to go over the bridge above the speed limit with zero signal? You guys are really exaggerating this setting issue. The VZ Bridge is 4260 feet and speed limit is 45 so if you are lucky enough to not have traffic it will take you less than a minute and you would have Zero issue.
 
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Is it going to take you over 5 minutes to go over the bridge above the speed limit with zero signal? You guys are really exaggerating this setting issue.
1. Traffic jam caused by an accident on the lower deck
2. Accident itself, which blocks all but 1 or 2 lanes of traffic
3. Past the accident scene, wide open road

I have encountered such a situation before, on the lower deck of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge. The accident was around the area of the Yerba Buena Island tunnel.
 

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1. Traffic jam caused by an accident on the lower deck
2. Accident itself, which blocks all but 1 or 2 lanes of traffic
3. Past the accident scene, wide open road

I have encountered such a situation before, on the lower deck of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge. The accident was around the area of the Yerba Buena Island tunnel.
There are other products out there. If this one extremely rare situation is such a concern to you all I guess you need another product. Don't get an ALP, Escort or Stinger product because they all will have GPS limits on Jamming.
 

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There are other products out there. If this one extremely rare situation is such a concern to you all I guess you need another product. Don't get an ALP, Escort or Stinger product because they all will have GPS limits on Jamming.
This isn't the product I purchased. When I bought my ALP, GPS was an optional feature, used ONLY to disable jamming below a certain speed, and if GPS signal was ever lost, jamming would be enabled. Then the Tx head was introduced, and GPS has always been required, allegedly because of the excuse that if it wasn't required, people would steal AL's intellectual property, even though it's relatively simple to defeat such a mechanism in a lab. Then on August 31, 2019, you stated that "The old firmware used to let users also wrap their antennas in aluminum foil and fire them in the face while testing causing us a large liability." And to be honest, I probably would have bought that excuse, if it didn't come literally 5 days too late, as on August 26, 2019, you said that "Future features will be released on HW4 hardware platform such as advanced statistics and alot of radar improvements along with database driven features. HW4 CPU's require accurate date, time & location."

I don't know what the exact reason for this is, and I know you don't make these decisions, the folks at HQ do. But my BS meter is pegged at 10/10 on this because of their constantly shifting stories. What is it? Protecting IP? That's easily defeated in a lab, and if anyone's stealing IP, they surely have a lab. Eye protection for Tx sensor operation? That's about the only thing I've heard that makes sense. But if that's the case, why is it being required for HW4?
 
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There are other products out there. If this one extremely rare situation is such a concern to you all I guess you need another product. Don't get an ALP, Escort or Stinger product because they all will have GPS limits on Jamming.
So, basically you're telling people who already purchased a system that they are SOL because AL recently decided to limit the amount of time the unit stays in defence mode after losing GPS signal? AL could easily fix this potential issue by extending the time the unit stays in defence mode after losing GPS....... Of course the best solution would be to remove the GPS requirement completely.
 

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So, basically you're telling people who already purchased a system that they are SOL because AL recently decided to limit the amount of time the unit stays in defence mode after losing GPS signal? AL could easily fix this potential issue by extending the time the unit stays in defence mode after losing GPS....... Of course the best solution would be to remove the GPS requirement completely.
I have said it since the TX Sensors came out that GPS would be required and AntiLaser WILL NOT change this requirement. We have had this same conversation for over 2 years and they are not going to change this. The GPS Antennas if installed properly will work perfectly fine and if signal is lost will stay in defense mode for some time but after a few minutes of seeing zero signal if will kick out of defense mode until a GPS signal is restored. We have 1000's of customers running this configuration and no one has an issue with this except a handful of members here that don't like the GPS requirement Show me this being an issue in the real world. .
 

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I have said it since the TX Sensors came out that GPS would be required and AntiLaser WILL NOT change this requirement. We have had this same conversation for over 2 years and they are not going to change this. The GPS Antennas if installed properly will work perfectly fine and if signal is lost will stay in defense mode for some time but after a few minutes of seeing zero signal if will kick out of defense mode until a GPS signal is restored. We have 1000's of customers running this configuration and no one has an issue with this except a handful of members here that don't like the GPS requirement Show me this being an issue in the real world. .
Look at the posts above, clearly, people are already running unprotected in tunnels. I miss the days when AL put protection at the highest priority.
 

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I don't know what the exact reason for this is, and I know you don't make these decisions, the folks at HQ do. But my BS meter is pegged at 10/10 on this because of their constantly shifting stories. What is it? Protecting IP? That's easily defeated in a lab, and if anyone's stealing IP, they surely have a lab. Eye protection for Tx sensor operation? That's about the only thing I've heard that makes sense. But if that's the case, why is it being required for HW4?
HW2 CPU's were never sold requiring the GPS so they cant force that requirement on older systems already sold without the requirement... GPS requirement was added with the TX Sensors and all new HW versions will require it as standard regardless of the configuration. Love it or hate it that is their policy and no whining or complaining is going to change it.
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Look at the posts above, clearly, people are already running unprotected in tunnels. I miss the days when AL put protection at the highest priority.
Come on... Your serious? I have a lot of respect for you but this is really pushing the BS limit... Speeding in the Lincoln Tunnel? I would like to see someone speed though that tunnel.. If it takes you 5 minutes to get through the tunnel you are traveling much lower than the speed limit. At 50 MPH it will take you less than 2 minutes and well under the lockout limit. If it rakes you 5 minutes to go 1.5 miles you tell me how fast they are traveling? No one in the real world has any issues with the requirement expect a handful of users here.
 
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