About to order a set of ALPs, no TX or radar-but GPS is required?

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So, I know others who run ALP's[admittedly older models it appears at first glance] and am now moving from LIs to ALPs

The thing is, I am going to get heads for the front and maybe the back- but the site says this GPS module is required -

I am having difficulty finding out why on the website itself,. and some searches around here indicated some sort of fights over GPS and TX heads- which i don't fully understand, as i can't find whatever original threads
people are talking about.

But, I'm not going to get any tx heads(or radar integration- I run a Uniden)- and when i select normal heads, the gps module is still required- But there's no details about what it does in this case.
I've read it's for setting speed lockouts for activation of jammers- that's something you have to set, right? (I don't think i'd use it, my driving routes don't involve any laser heavy areas where i go slower that i'd need lockouts)

Does anyone know anything more about this? [I'm also reaching out to the company as well]
 
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Gps is only required for the TX heads because of some bullshit excuse which I won't go into.

It is still usable for things like auto dimming the led or disabling jamming at low speeds. Unless something has recently changed, it's not REQUIRED.
 

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Unfortunately the OP is correct. Was thinking about getting AL's on my new Gladiator, and the AL website says the GPS is required, even if it's just Rx heads. Must have something to do with the new HW4 CPU.
 

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" because of some bullshit excuse "
Yep !! :confused:

Its required with the new HW version.
Should have been integrated then along with BT. Too many dang modules hanging off this thing.
(Still love it though)

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The only thing that changed is more memory for radar features....
Now the new hardware requires a GPS module?

Ugh
 

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Hmmmm--I would like to know WHY its a requirement now, even with reg heads! BRD?
 

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Hmmmm--I would like to know WHY its a requirement now, even with reg heads! BRD?
Future features will be released on HW4 hardware platform such as advanced statistics and alot of radar improvements along with database driven features. HW4 CPU's require accurate date, time & location.

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Future features will be released on HW4 hardware platform such as advanced statistics and alot of radar improvements along with database driven features. HW4 CPU's require accurate date, time & location.

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Does any of that come into play with only running Jammers (no TX)
 

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Does any of that come into play with only running Jammers (no TX)
Yes, As listed advanced statistics will be coming in the future of HW4 CPU's which includes logging location, speed, time etc.
 

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Its required with the new HW version.
Should have been integrated then along with BT. Too many dang modules hanging off this thing.
(Still love it though)
and a headphone jack!! A dedicated speaker port would also help avoid the limitations that come with running a control pad, BT, and speaker all through the same single port. Maybe this was too big of a switch? It seemed like a good opportunity given that hardware changes were being made.

Anyway, good catch w/ GPS now being required.
 

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and a headphone jack!! A dedicated speaker port would also help avoid the limitations that come with running a control pad, BT, and speaker all through the same single port. Maybe this was too big of a switch? It seemed like a good opportunity given that hardware changes were being made.

Anyway, good catch w/ GPS now being required.
I like the idea of having the headphone jack in the cpu itself but there are a few issues with it that I see.

First would be if the headphone jack and amplifier are in the cpu, it would mean everyone has the hardware to use hifi, but they would basically just be purchasing a license to use it when they get the "hifi enabled" control set.

Second issue is that the cpu can get mounted anywhere in the car (center console, behind glove box, etc) but the speaker would be best suited behind the instrument cluster or under the dash where the steering column is. Also we can assume that the control pad would be close to the driver so this way, interference/noise is minimized from having to use a long extension cable for the speaker to connect to the cpu and keeps the amplifier circuitry as close as possible to the external speaker itself.
 

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and a headphone jack!! A dedicated speaker port would also help avoid the limitations that come with running a control pad, BT, and speaker all through the same single port. Maybe this was too big of a switch? It seemed like a good opportunity given that hardware changes were being made.

Anyway, good catch w/ GPS now being required.
Hardware change was only to add additional memory for additional features requiring additional memory.. Nothing else changed and no new boards were created. Adding a speaker jack would require adding additional circuitry and audio amplifier which is currently inside the actual HiFi Controller.
 

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I like the idea of advanced statistics, that would be very helpful to be able to see speed when hit with lidar. does it have a JTK timer that tell you how long after being hit until the system was JTk'd? cause that would be really nice :)
 

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Hardware change was only to add additional memory for additional features requiring additional memory.. Nothing else changed and no new boards were created. Adding a speaker jack would require adding additional circuitry and audio amplifier which is currently inside the actual HiFi Controller.
Hopefully with HW5 then? This way we will be able to simultaneously have GPS lockouts for radar, a dedicated button for JTK/muting/lockouts, complete phone integration, and a dedicated speaker without having to putz around with our vehicle's stereo. I can understand having GPS be external for better placement, but having both Bluetooth and a speaker jack (even if that means extra circuitry and an audio amplifier) be integrated means that it would address what I see as one of the only few weaknesses of the ALP platform.

Don't get me wrong, I think the new ARF is awesome and more advanced statistics would be very much welcomed too. Given that you're open to doing hardware changes as needed to add new functionality, hopefully this can be added in at some point too.

Anyway, sorry, I think we're starting to get a little bit OT here.
 

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This is awesome news, I dreamt of the day when GPS would be required for all ALP. I hope they can now integrate ALP into Waze automatically with some sort of automated and "Confirmed" Speed Traps.

Thanks ALP
 

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Mercy, We have a quality and reliable countermeasure system here and are still bashing and slandering it calling parts of it BS?
Support is second to none. Is that BS too? Its a free country so say what you want. You also don't have to purchase it.

The system is pricey enough without adding audio that can be had in HiFi setup.
ALP is not a trickster gimmick marketing outfit. Always looking ahead any changes you see have the future in mind.

Anyways if you think it BS walk away. Its that easy.
 

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Mercy, We have a quality and reliable countermeasure system here and are still bashing and slandering it calling parts of it BS?
Support is second to none. Is that BS too? Its a free country so say what you want. You also don't have to purchase it.

The system is pricey enough without adding audio that can be had in HiFi setup.
ALP is not a trickster gimmick marketing outfit. Always looking ahead any changes you see have the future in mind.

Anyways if you think it BS walk away. Its that easy.
Not sure what you're getting at in particular- I'm concerned because I drive through multiple areas with speed limits that vary from multiple 25 mph zones and 30 mph zones to beyond, and am wondering because I do run into cops rarely in these areas- and don't want a situation where its possible the jammers are off automatically) (On a recent Vortex Video , he mentioned he'd heard you would have to drive 30 or better for them to safely be active , with the GPS thing)

-So , this has me worried ..... I can't be the only one with use cases like this- as not everyone travels on faster highways all the time.

I am awaiting videos demonstrating the GPS turn-off, to validate what speed this occurs at- if it is lower(as i've also heard on some accounts)- say, 20 or less, then that's not a risk of having no defense really. If it is higher though.....
 

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