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I will respectfully disagree. The R7 is the king, but not the king of radar detectors. It's the king of inconsistency. The R7 is completely blind to Polican laser while the R7 will warn you that you've been hit within seconds. The R7 doesn't have a consistent immunity rate. One R7 is immune, while the the one that someone else bought might not be immune. Uniden also has a lot of software tweaks it needs to work on. For $600, I expected not only a better software experience, but significantly better build quality. The V1 is half the price and it is significantly better quality.

I drove on a 1,200 mile trip and then followed that trip with a cross country trip from MD to CA and back to MD and I wasn't impressed at all.
The R7 is consistant with Radar though.

Yes the build quality is inconsistent, that is one of my biggest complaints with the Unidens, if the R7 was detectable at 1000 feet by the spectre I would just say that it is false advertisement, but the fact that different R7s have different results is just poor craftsmanship .

However the R7 is the most Spectre stealth arrowed detector out there.At least a cop running a Spectre from a bridge is not going to chase after you.

And laser.. well yes I give you that laser should work for a 600 dollar detector.

The Uniden is a fanstastic unit, but for 600 dollars it should had been built a lot better.
 

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Whenever there's a discussion about the relative merits of, say, V1 and Unden, the Uniden fans comments are always about how much more range it has. That's the one trick.
It's also notable that many Uniden people dismiss using an app as it's not "plug and play", then excuse Uniden failings by saying complainers are using the wrong settings.
You can't have it both ways guys.
You keep your moonshot alerts, enjoy driving at the limit looking for a cop you may never see.
I'll take the myriad other benefits that V1/JBV1 gives me, as well as protecting me from tickets.
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But in the end,it does what you pay for it to do better than the V1, and that is to warn you sooner to the presence of radar.

Even with filtering dialed down it still has more range or the same as a V1.

Like it or not the R7 is king right now..
Look! The King has no clothes.

BTW. In case the non-Tifosi haven't noticed this is a V1 forum. This is where we come to bag other products without being so ill mannered as to do it on their forums.
 
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Whenever there's a discussion about the relative merits of, say, V1 and Unden, the Uniden fans comments are always about how much more range it has. That's the one trick.
It's also notable that many Uniden people dismiss using an app as it's not "plug and play", then excuse Uniden failings by saying complainers are using the wrong settings.
You can't have it both ways guys.
You keep your moonshot alerts, enjoy driving at the limit looking for a cop you may never see.
I'll take the myriad other benefits that V1/JBV1 gives me, as well as protecting me from tickets.
In my personal experience the R7 gives me a false alert every hour and it only lasts 2 seconds.

It is all about the settings.

If you are happy with the V1 then that is that, the V1 is still a very capable well built detector.
 

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BTW. In case the non-Tifosi haven't noticed this is a V1 forum. This is where we come to bag other products without being so ill mannered as to do it on their forums.
But what's the point of bagging other products? They all have their pros and cons.

Seems better to acknowledge that reality to help improve each other's understanding and to push for enhancements in our platform of choice than to tear down someone else's choice.
 

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But what's the point of bagging other products? They all have their pros and cons.

Seems better to acknowledge that reality to help improve each other's understanding and to push for enhancements in our platform of choice than to tear down someone else's choice.
OK. Change bagging to critiquing.
But my point was that there's a time and place for it.
My perspective is that I don't go onto other forums and rubbish everything about their choices including the business capabilities of the manufacturer.
Although if I did I could spend hours on it.
The ridiculous thing is that VR attracts these people like jam at a wasp convention. Usually that means they feel threatened. But who would feel threatened by a lump of electronics?
 

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As a non-V1 user, I’m looking forward to what’s coming, “within 2 weeks,” of course. I think now is the right time for some type of update- display, firmware...etc no matter how big or small it is. Something. The MRCD thing needs to be better addressed - other than turning TMF2 off- that’s not practical in this BSM pollution age.

The aesthetics , a retro cool look that harkens back to the Cincinnati microwave days of led lights, needs a facelift to display the frequency on the actual unit. Apps are cool too.

I do think if nothing new is released, and it’s the same look, same everything, it will be a major letdown.
 

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As a non-V1 user, I’m looking forward to what’s coming, “within 2 weeks,” of course. I think now is the right time for some type of update- display, firmware...etc no matter how big or small it is. Something. The MRCD thing needs to be better addressed - other than turning TMF2 off- that’s not practical in this BSM pollution age.

The aesthetics , a retro cool look that harkens back to the Cincinnati microwave days of led lights, needs a facelift to display the frequency on the actual unit. Apps are cool too.

I do think if nothing new is released, and it’s the same look, same everything, it will be a major letdown.

Definitely agree with this^^^
 

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OK. Change bagging to critiquing.
But my point was that there's a time and place for it.
My perspective is that I don't go onto other forums and rubbish everything about their choices including the business capabilities of the manufacturer.
Although if I did I could spend hours on it.
The ridiculous thing is that VR attracts these people like jam at a wasp convention. Usually that means they feel threatened. But who would feel threatened by a lump of electronics?
Agreed.

And it's also ok to bag on our own platform for purposes of seeing improvements or to simply acknowledge the merits of others.
 

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Yes, and I may have gone elsewhere if it weren't for YaV1 and JBV1. But then the question is - where?
I'm more inclined to Radenso than Uniden. Uniden downunder always had the taint of cheapness in their products. I'm going back many years now, in the days of Dick Smith Electronics.
 

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As a non-V1 user, I’m looking forward to what’s coming, “within 2 weeks,” of course. I think now is the right time for some type of update- display, firmware...etc no matter how big or small it is. Something. The MRCD thing needs to be better addressed - other than turning TMF2 off- that’s not practical in this BSM pollution age.

The aesthetics , a retro cool look that harkens back to the Cincinnati microwave days of led lights, needs a facelift to display the frequency on the actual unit. Apps are cool too.

I do think if nothing new is released, and it’s the same look, same everything, it will be a major letdown.
I definitely agree with you on this. If it (the V1 coming in two weeks or so) is the same unit with no changes when it went out of stock around April, I likely will continue to sit on the sidelines and wait for something to change on the V1 (which could be a while), but if there is a new display including a frequency display on the detector and some type of performance improvement even if it isn’t major, I likely would buy another V1 before the end of the year. I always was very satisfied with my V1s
over the years.

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needs a facelift to display the frequency on the actual unit.
Here are some thoughts from the perspective of a certain type of V1 user:
Due to parts shortages, etc. there may be a new display on the next V1 but that's not that exciting or interesting to many of us that currently use V1s.

How many detectors have a remote display of some sort?
How many of the population here appreciate that a remote display can exist lower and hidden from the outside of the vehicle?

In my opinion, a screen on the detector is not as important as a frequency readout on some sort of a remote display. As I (and many others) have said before, I leave the detector itself dark 100% of the time because the remote display and/or app is available. If there wasn't a remote display available, we'd have to utilize one of the other less stealthy methods to see our alerts; but luckily the remote display has been available for over 20 years. For many of us, the V1 could have no display at all on the front and that would be great! I'd rather not pay extra for the new display on the unit that I will never use.

This is probably one area that us advanced V1 users can't reconcile when a non-V1 user mentions the display on the unit itself as a deficiency. (Not talking about anyone specific here) The V1 display on the front of the V1 is for the common man that really doesn't care much and many of those frankly could continue with arrows and lights because they hear an alert and slow down regardless.
Some of the Radenso units display the center frequencies of each alert regardless of where in the spectrum the alert really is. Individual lights might actually make readability a little quicker on those units. They could have different color lights for X, K, Ka Low, Ka Mid, Ka High, and Laser.

Many advanced V1 users are likely to be using some sort of remote display because it helps in the stealth department. Most users these days will have the opportunity to use an app and then the perceived display deficiency is not only null, but very far into the positive column because of all the extra features available that way. It's rarely any trouble at all to let the phone connect automatically when the V1 starts.

There are people that say they don't want to have to look at their phone and/or those that would rather just listen for the alert tones. Apps can connect automatically while the phone stays in your pocket and still perform various helpful duties such as announcing alerts with more detail. Looking at the phone is a choice that many of us make because we want to; not because we have to. (A dedicated in-car phone could be placed out of sight too for that matter.)

Also we see people that are unfamiliar with the V1 architecture say that the bluetooth device or remote display involves cables as if it's some sort of unruly mess. It's one longer cable for the V1, and one cable for the remote display or bluetooth device. That's it. Those of us that want to get really creative add a commonly available phone coupler to run both a remote display and a bluetooth device together. It's all plug and play.

All of these types of criticisms/concerns don't really have a lot of bearing on us advanced users. We like the extra features we get whether it's a remote display or an app. I hope that might make a bit more sense to everyone. :)
 
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I have been trying to get into VR's doors on testing their "new" stuff for more than 15 years. No Luck. They should at least send one out to @Vortex
I remember they sent out 3.873 beta years ago.
 

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I have been trying to get into VR's doors on testing their "new" stuff for more than 15 years. No Luck. They should at least send one out to @Vortex
I remember they sent out 3.873 beta years ago.
Ah interesting. If they wanna do that again, that’d he helpful, but it’s totally cool if they don’t. Either way, we’ll all get our hands on some and test just the same. :)
 

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Now, if you want to see blindness, check out the Uniden forum.
That kind of talk is uncalled for. Ideally everyone would be able to appreciate the strengths of all detectors. The V1 has a lot to offer, but I also run an R3 and like it very much. It and the R7 have a lot going for them. As consumers, it would be awesome if VR came out with updates that extend range and improve BSM filtering to give Uniden fans something to think about.

There are no filtering settings. K block? That's useless. Muting it with quiet ride is not a filter setting.
QuietRide is the same thing as Savvy, and speed-based muting is super helpful. And K-Block isn’t useless. It’s also super helpful. And yes, there are multiple K-band filter settings in addition to settings levels.

The R7 is completely blind to Polican laser
That’s a pretty weak argument. A windshield radar detector of any sort is not and will never be an effective tool against something like that.

I do think if nothing new is released, and it’s the same look, same everything, it will be a major letdown.
For us, yeah. For the rest of the world? Not as much. It’s still a V1, still a good detector, still has brand name cachet. Most users will never have even known there was some down time for ordering new units.
 

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That kind of talk is uncalled for. Ideally everyone would be able to appreciate the strengths of all detectors. The V1 has a lot to offer, but I also run an R3 and like it very much. It and the R7 have a lot going for them. As consumers, it would be awesome if VR came out with updates that extend range and improve BSM filtering to give Uniden fans something to think about.


QuietRide is the same thing as Savvy, and speed-based muting is super helpful. And K-Block isn’t useless. It’s also super helpful. And yes, there are multiple K-band filter settings in addition to settings levels.


That’s a pretty weak argument. A windshield radar detector of any sort is not and will never be an effective tool against something like that.


For us, yeah. For the rest of the world? Not as much. It’s still a V1, still a good detector, still has brand name cachet. Most users will never have even known there was some down time for ordering new units.
Everyone says that the R7 not alerting to Laser is a 'weak' argument and by the time that the detector picks up the signal, you're done for. That's fine. I want to know that I'm about to get a ticket. I'd rather not be surprised. If it is such a weak argument though, why does my V1 alert EVERY time to any type of laser I come across? The R7, while engineered nicely is not engineered anywhere near as well as a Valentine. Uniden needs to work on their quality control.

What IS weak is that the R7 costs $600 and feels like a $10 toy from Walmart.
 

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Everyone says that the R7 not alerting to Laser is a 'weak' argument and by the time that the detector picks up the signal, you're done for. That's fine. I want to know that I'm about to get a ticket. I'd rather not be surprised. If it is such a weak argument though, why does my V1 alert EVERY time to any type of laser I come across? The R7, while engineered nicely is not engineered anywhere near as well as a Valentine. Uniden needs to work on their quality control.

What IS weak is that the R7 costs $600 and feels like a $10 toy from Walmart.
The r7 not alerting is just as bad as the v1 alerting.
Whether you can't rely on the detector to notify you of laser or the detector to scream any time there is a mazda or Honda or infiniti or whatever in the same zip code, it's equally unusable. On one end of the spectrum, either the detector is deaf, on the other end the detector is the boy who cried wolf.

Both of my daily drivers have lidar collision avoidance making it IMPOSSIBLE to run a v1 with laser on. Even on another car, so many people around here drive cars with lidar collision avoidance so if it's not my car setting it off, it's someone else's.

The r3 and r7 I tested recently don't react to either car's lidar even when held up in front of it. It has built in filtering to filter out unnecessary crap.

Ideally, the best case scenario would be the hardware from a v1 (lens and receiver) paired up with the electronics and filtering of a modern day detector or dedicated jammer system. That being said, you'd only get saved still by picking up lucky scatter. It would just improve the sensitivity on the Uniden or the junk resistance on the v1. Either way, each manufacturer has their own reasons as to why they aren't doing that.
 

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Although I turned off lidar detection on my V1 a few months ago (TMG installed a while back) I have always been of the opinion that knowing that you are being hit with lidar is useful information regardless of what happens after.

I would rather not be chased down by the LEO I totally missed and have no idea why. That's less time to be prepared and do my part to make the best of the impending stop.

Sometimes the LEO might hang back a minute or two after getting on the road. That's plenty of time for me to give him more evidence to charge me with because I didn't know he tagged me a mile back.

Better lidar filtering would be helpful for the V1. It's already better than it used to be. The problem is that lidar technology is also a moving target. As seen by some of the Unidens that are effectively blind to some guns, it can be a concern if it only works partially!
 
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Although I turned off lidar detection on my V1 a few months ago (TMG installed a while back) I have always been of the opinion that knowing that you are being hit with lidar is useful information regardless of what happens after.

I would rather not be chased down by the LEO I totally missed and have no idea why. That's less time to be prepared and do my part to make the best of the impending stop.

Sometimes the LEO might hang back a minute or two after getting on the road. That's plenty of time for me to give him more evidence to charge me with because I didn't know he tagged me a mile back.

Better lidar filtering would be helpful for the V1. It's already better than it used to be. The problem is that lidar technology is also a moving target. As seen by some of the Unidens that are effectively blind to some guns, it can be a concern if it only works partially!
I'm waiting for a new PC today so I can't upload the videos right now, but a month ago I tested V1, Bel 550 and an old Radioshack detector against a laser tester and against a remote control that V1 and Bel 550 detect as laser. My simulation proved that the Bel 550 is faster and less filtered than V1. I think I will test Snooper S5R today to have a complete set of testing, since then I forgot to do it. My conclusion is - taking in account the greek conditions with very few laser equipped vehicles - that V1 is falsing but not to the point of being annoying. Usually from a vehicle going the opposite direction mainly on rural roads. Falsing from sun radiation is very rare. In order to give a mangitude of falsing I can say that every 1000km I have a false alert but this is just an average cause on rural roads it's 1 alert every 100km and on highways it's 1 alert every 5,000km. Out of the 10 falses 9 are caused by opposite moving vehicles and 1 from the sun. With Bel 550 I had 1 false alert every 10,000km and only from other vehicles. From Snooper S5R I never had a false laser alert. Radioshack wasn't used at all since it couldn't detect Ku Gatso cams something very common in Greece back then. I use it only for testing purposes and not as a CM.
 

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