V1 WILL be updated

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After six months...…..I think it could be a very healthy backlog. The day they plug back in the Open for Business sign, the question will immediately flip to "how soon until MY order ships"? I'll respect your request for no jokes on that one. That will be another thread.

Edit: On the other hand. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that production may have already resumed and they are busy building with the intent of mass shipments on a particular release date. It's going to be different to some degree and quality control a big concern........I'm sure Mike will take his time to qualify the new parts inside the updated (or new) version to maintain quality standards. I don't expect this to be like other releases where they rush to slap things together and ship half baked products for the customer to deal with at a later time.


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Well, my personal experience has been less then 3 days from ordering until I have my V1 or accessories. Of course there was no backlog but what I am saying is the shipping department has always been quick to get in stock orders out.

I think the big question IE Elephant in the Room is whether it is the current V1 with a possible facelift or if it ends up being an improved V1 (and how that effects the upgrade path). If it is just a restock then I need to get a V1 the $79 upgrade. If it is an improved V1 that makes the full upgrade path a replacement to a so called newer V1 then I think VR will be overwhelmed!
 

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Well, my personal experience has been less then 3 days from ordering until I have my V1 or accessories. Of course there was no backlog but what I am saying is the shipping department has always been quick to get in stock orders out.

I think the big question IE Elephant in the Room is whether it is the current V1 with a possible facelift or if it ends up being an improved V1 (and how that effects the upgrade path). If it is just a restock then I need to get a V1 the $79 upgrade. If it is an improved V1 that makes the full upgrade path a replacement to a so called newer V1 then I think VR will be overwhelmed!
If it was some sort of new unit they sure are going about it differently then any other company as far as marketing goes. You would think a couple months out they would start building up hype and excitement to spread the word. If people in the market for a new RD knew for sure a new an improved one was coming out they would wait weeks if not months for it rather than purchasing something from VR’s competition.
 

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I'm not going to deal with connecting my phone and firing up the app every time I hop in my car for a quick trip
Lucky for you that’s not necessary. I don’t know if you have to check a box to make it happen, but it can start/connect automatically when your V1 becomes available. It’s one of the biggest, most persistent misconceptions about apps that 1) you have to do anything to make it work and 2) you have to look at it. V1Driver stays in the background pretty much the whole time on my phone. I don’t do anything to “connect my phone” or “fire up the app.”
 

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If it was some sort of new unit they sure are going about it differently then any other company as far as marketing goes. You would think a couple months out they would start building up hype and excitement to spread the word. If people in the market for a new RD knew for sure a new an improved one was coming out they would wait weeks if not months for it rather than purchasing something from VR’s competition.
Exactly! This is my current situation. Based on the rollout, my gut is telling me the new unit won't be significantly different than the old one. Just my gut though
 

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If it was some sort of new unit they sure are going about it differently then any other company as far as marketing goes. You would think a couple months out they would start building up hype and excitement to spread the word. If people in the market for a new RD knew for sure a new an improved one was coming out they would wait weeks if not months for it rather than purchasing something from VR’s competition.
This is what makes me think its not going to be significantly different.
 

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This is what makes me think its not going to be significantly different.
Has VR ever "built up hype" for any recent advance? TMF2? ESP? Not sure why you'd expect that to change now.
 

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This is what makes me think its not going to be significantly different.
I think Mike is very stealth. Maybe he does not want to give radenso, escort and others a leg up. His customers are not who he is hiding his projects from but we all become collateral damage. I'm unsure as is everyone what VR is up to but we will find out soon enough.
 

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I think Mike is very stealth. Maybe he does not want to give radenso, escort and others a leg up. His customers are not who he is hiding his projects from but we all become collateral damage. I'm unsure as is everyone what VR is up to but we will find out soon enough.
I don't think that's the case. Plus stealth in this case doesn't do anything to benefit them. It doesn't give anything away if you stick a banner on your website simply saying "Improved V1 coming soon! Stay tuned for the best in defense gear!"
 

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Has VR ever "built up hype" for any recent advance? TMF2? ESP? Not sure why you'd expect that to change now.
I don't know that much about how VR has done things with advancements in the past. There haven't been any advancements since I bought mine. But maybe you're right.
 

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Lucky for you that’s not necessary. I don’t know if you have to check a box to make it happen, but it can start/connect automatically when your V1 becomes available. It’s one of the biggest, most persistent misconceptions about apps that 1) you have to do anything to make it work and 2) you have to look at it. V1Driver stays in the background pretty much the whole time on my phone. I don’t do anything to “connect my phone” or “fire up the app.”
I'm going to figure this out, since I throw my phone in the holder anyway. That would be very convenient. It does block me from being able to use my StealthOne. I can only use one or another.
 

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I don't think that's the case. Plus stealth in this case doesn't do anything to benefit them. It doesn't give anything away if you stick a banner on your website simply saying "Improved V1 coming soon! Stay tuned for the best in defense gear!"
Not his style. This guy answers to nobody and that's just the way it goes...
 

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I mean I'm not going to die without it or anything, I've been doing fine with the V1 thus far. Between my wife and I, it's one V1 for 3 cars, and I'm getting tired of the juggling. We have a lot of driving coming up for the next month starting next weekend. And I've been waiting for months for V1.

Here's the problem and the root of my frustration I guess...I really would like another V1, but I don't want one if it's going to be the same unit. And unfortunately, there is nothing to tell me if I am wasting my time waiting (and I would wait if I knew it was going to be new/better). Every other day there's a post on here saying something new is coming, but V1 hasn't so much as changed their website in 15 years let alone talk at all about a new product upcoming.

imagine if Apple or Samsung did that LOL
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Well, there has been no credible evidence that there will be a new V1, just speculation. But if there is, you can upgrade. You can't upgrade an R7.
Apple are pretty good at minor changes and calling it "all new". That's why Android is slaughtering them.
BTW. I am an Apple user. In fact, I'm a Tech slut. Anything will do if it does the trick.
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If it was some sort of new unit they sure are going about it differently then any other company as far as marketing goes. You would think a couple months out they would start building up hype and excitement to spread the word. If people in the market for a new RD knew for sure a new an improved one was coming out they would wait weeks if not months for it rather than purchasing something from VR’s competition.
Why should they? RDF is doing it for them. And, the non enthusiast market doesn't give a damn. They'll keep buying V1's the same way people still buy German Rolls Royces.
 
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Has VR ever "built up hype" for any recent advance? TMF2? ESP? Not sure why you'd expect that to change now.
Well they should. That’s basic marketing 101. You very well might be right but I’d love to have all the money they lost because of it. I realize they’ll make tons of money anyway but that’s not my point. At any given time there are tons of people in the market for a new RD. Many of them would absolutely wait a few months for a new V1. However if they don’t know then they won’t wait and they will spend their saved money on something else. That’s lost money. I’ll take it since if you are right Mike doesn’t want to spend basic money on marketing like just about every company on the planet does.
 

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True, but you sure can update it, for free even. As it stands now, you can't even upgrade a V1....IJS.
I believe there are upgrades that VR can do right now where they send back the same unit you had upgraded, just not the "trade-in for a new boxed unit" type of upgrade.
 

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Well, there has been no credible evidence that there will be a new V1, just speculation. But if there is, you can upgrade. You can't upgrade an R7.
No, the upgrades to firmware for the R7 come via a download. And it's free.

Actual additional features beyond the launch capabilities have been added to all R series detectors for free, that has never once happened with the V1. With the V1, you get what you get, and for anything more, you pay for it. Every. single. time.

The V1 costs $79 for every firmware upgrade, and $289 if you have to upgrade the internals. And $49 if you're adding Bluetooth, or Saavy. That's just to get some of the functionality the R7 has intrinsically.

For the V1 to have some of the functionality that meets the R7, the old price starts at $450, and only if you were buying new. It could easily be more in the near future once we figure out the new cost of doing business increases when they finally come back into stock.

If you're unlucky enough to have bought before ESP, you're looking at $399+289+49 to get those R7 features, and for that price you'll have: more functionality via an app if you choose to use JBV1, but less range, less off axis capability, and much less of a spectre immunity profile.

Anyone who is currently holding a V1 right now is looking at shelling out additional funding should any new features be introduced (should you want them). No other detector manufacturer has that business model. V1's business model in that regard is archaic. Charging $79 to push firmware is crap.
 

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