V1 WILL be updated

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Kind of ironic all the talk about how "old" the V1 is; needs updating; etc.. Other than range which admittedly has been surpassed by others nobody has innovated as much as Valentine when it comes to opening their detector up and allowing 3rd party apps. JBV1 is the absolute best example of just how far the information the V1 provides can be taken; the customization allowed; etc.. And combined with John Boy's innovation and enhancements it's a 1-2 punch that's really hard to beat; imho..

Yes, some folks want an all-in-one box but there will never be anything quite like that. To me Valentine was the ultimate innovator and far ahead of the times when they added ESP and provided the information for it; whatever is going on now is perplexing for sure but I still like my V1 (with JBV1 as the ultimate enhancement accessory); wonder how many can say that about a multi-year old RD..
 

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Finally I found the origin of the two week timeline!!!

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Kind of ironic all the talk about how "old" the V1 is; needs updating; etc.. Other than range which admittedly has been surpassed by others nobody has innovated as much as Valentine when it comes to opening their detector up and allowing 3rd party apps. JBV1 is the absolute best example of just how far the information the V1 provides can be taken; the customization allowed; etc.. And combined with John Boy's innovation and enhancements it's a 1-2 punch that's really hard to beat; imho..

Yes, some folks want an all-in-one box but there will never be anything quite like that. To me Valentine was the ultimate innovator and far ahead of the times when they added ESP and provided the information for it; whatever is going on now is perplexing for sure but I still like my V1 (with JBV1 as the ultimate enhancement accessory); wonder how many can say that about a multi-year old RD..
Respectfully, I don't view the V1's ability to integrate with applications as "innovation". Not in the least.
I see is as accommodation.
The "innovation" belongs to the app developers.
 

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Respectfully, I don't view the V1's ability to integrate with applications as "innovation". Not in the least.
I see is as accommodation.
The "innovation" belongs to the app developers.
Then why is it limited to the V1? I may agree with you if another detector offered app integration.
 

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Kind of ironic all the talk about how "old" the V1 is; needs updating; etc.. Other than range which admittedly has been surpassed by others nobody has innovated as much as Valentine when it comes to opening their detector up and allowing 3rd party apps. JBV1 is the absolute best example of just how far the information the V1 provides can be taken; the customization allowed; etc.. And combined with John Boy's innovation and enhancements it's a 1-2 punch that's really hard to beat; imho..

Yes, some folks want an all-in-one box but there will never be anything quite like that. To me Valentine was the ultimate innovator and far ahead of the times when they added ESP and provided the information for it; whatever is going on now is perplexing for sure but I still like my V1 (with JBV1 as the ultimate enhancement accessory); wonder how many can say that about a multi-year old RD..
I wouldn't call it innovative either to open up to 3rd party apps, smart yes. Besides there are other features and updates that have passed it by but its not fair to compare a 20yr old detector to todays world. Johnny boys app is amazing no question, but some don't want to connect to a phone, and need or want that much information, its a personal choice, even Vortex at his ripe old age of 30 something (purely guessing) doesn't want that, he now prefers the Max 360c a more simple solution, works for him but not for all..
 

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Please. Can we get some facts straight when throwing out criticisms? It's only fair.
If people didn't post gross inaccuracies, others would spend less time correcting those inaccuracies and we'd all be happier.

The ESP version is only 7 years old. It has a ton of changes from anything prior. If your opinion is that the app makes up for a 7 year old detector, that's a realistic opinion.

TMF2 is even newer than that. My detector's firmware is 3.5+ years old. Some people now have the 2 year old firmware version.

Also, the open API is more than code that is accessible. It's a middleman between the internal code that we don't get to see and the external code. They had to create that. They didn't just open a data channel.

Can we all stop exaggerating and have legitimate discussions?
 

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This whole thread is speculations, exaggerations, opinions, jokes, sarcasm, likes, some saying they have inside info etc. We don't even know if the title of this thread is accurate...When it comes out, we will know for sure, until then...
 

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Besides the craving for popcorn, the one effect this thread is having on me is to confirm my feeling that if I ever, ever cough hard cash for a V(fill number here), it will be as a pale secondary accessory for JBV1, and not the other way around.

And more importantly - that would JBV1 have been compatible with any other RD (yes, I know it can't, as the RD company itself has to open the API or whatever) - I wouldn't be checking V1 threads at all.
 

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Two more weeks! Sorry, I just couldn't help myself! I had to get my "fix"!
 

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I wouldn't call it innovative either to open up to 3rd party apps, smart yes. Besides there are other features and updates that have passed it by but its not fair to compare a 20yr old detector to todays world. Johnny boys app is amazing no question, but some don't want to connect to a phone, and need or want that much information, its a personal choice, even Vortex at his ripe old age of 30 something (purely guessing) doesn't want that, he now prefers the Max 360c a more simple solution, works for him but not for all..
I think you mean 30 years ..............
 

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Respectfully, I don't view the V1's ability to integrate with applications as "innovation". Not in the least.
I see is as accommodation.
The "innovation" belongs to the app developers.

I have been thinking about this for the last 2 years.

First thoughts were absolute shock that mike would make the V1 with open an api. Like, we are talking a man that changes a person customized colored led lights back to default red when sent back to the mothership. Clearly mike has shown time and time again that things are done his way.

So I was really like wtf with an open api. But then it hit me. mike doesnt invent the first wheel. What he does he is. He takes the invented wheel and then does something completely game changer with it

Just like the radar detector has been around. he changed the game with arrows, bogey counters, dual volume push knob, etc and that is what he did with the open api. Escort was the first to have an app with their detector. And mike followed suit

The innovation comes from mike doing what no one in the detector business thought of doing.
Johnboy took the concept and ran around the world like 20x with it. We all know now. Like it or hate. It’s powerful and every detector maker in business definitely has peeked into it
 

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Two more weeks! Sorry, I just couldn't help myself! I had to get my "fix"!
“Two weeks” wording does seem to trigger more discussion on this post. Thanks. Ha..
 

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First thoughts were absolute shock that mike would make the V1 with open an api. Like, we are talking a man that changes a person customized colored led lights back to default red when sent back to the mothership. Clearly mike has shown time and time again that things are done his way.
Interesting point. I imagine that he's fine with someone preferring a particular setting or different appearance as long as his hardware and firmware are intact. They didn't have to give us all of the manual programming options that they do either. The idea probably is that it can be defaulted very quickly anyway. Same with anything that could be done through the API interface in that his code still supercedes all.

Changing hardware though, that's when you are permanently altering designs that he purposely made decisions on. If that unit were to be sold to someone else with the multicolored LEDs then there's yet another 1+ people that know that it exists. It's not a original V1 any longer.

I do think it's crazy to think that you'd get back a unit with factory LEDs after paying to convert them, but on the flip side, if you as a designer want to standardize as much as possible and provide your idea of the most dependable detector, you might think the multicolor LEDs are a hack job since the voltage requirements of different colors are usually varied. He designed it for the voltage used by his red LEDs.

Providing an open API ensures that people can customize the look and feel to their hearts content and ability, but the V1 is still the same unit they shipped out.
 

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This whole V1 drama is getting more and more ridiculous.
I feel something extraterrestrial is coming... or just Nothing.
Open the fortune sphere and tell me - to be or not to be?
 

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Interesting point. I imagine that he's fine with someone preferring a particular setting or different appearance as long as his hardware and firmware are intact. They didn't have to give us all of the manual programming options that they do either. The idea probably is that it can be defaulted very quickly anyway. Same with anything that could be done through the API interface in that his code still supercedes all.

Changing hardware though, that's when you are permanently altering designs that he purposely made decisions on. If that unit were to be sold to someone else with the multicolored LEDs then there's yet another 1+ people that know that it exists. It's not a original V1 any longer.

I do think it's crazy to think that you'd get back a unit with factory LEDs after paying to convert them, but on the flip side, if you as a designer want to standardize as much as possible and provide your idea of the most dependable detector, you might think the multicolor LEDs are a hack job since the voltage requirements of different colors are usually varied. He designed it for the voltage used by his red LEDs.

Providing an open API ensures that people can customize the look and feel to their hearts content and ability, but the V1 is still the same unit they shipped out.

That’s exactly it . He built the detector his way and he will revert it back if mods are done. It’s his detector anymore nor does he even inform the customer. He just does it. The customer has 0 say in it
 

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This whole V1 drama is getting more and more ridiculous.
I feel something extraterrestrial is coming... or just Nothing.
Open the fortune sphere and tell me - to be or not to be?
Could be an extraterrestrial...lol
 
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