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In a past life, I have worked as a MRO buyer and as a purchasing agent. As such, if you are reasonably competent at your vocation, you understand 'lead times' and how they affect your production output. At any time, I have seen lead times of six to twelve weeks and planned production taking those times into account. Going on six months though: someone is seriously incompetent, or perhaps an organization is credit challenged and on a cash only basis with vendors. Who knows. At a publicly held company, there would be new faces everywhere.
 

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If VR continues selling the same old detector, and if my current V1 takes a crap, I'd still replace it with another V1.
That's just how I feel about all other options currently.

I really hope Jon has something tasty cooking.
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In a past life, I have worked as a MRO buyer and as a purchasing agent. As such, if you are reasonably competent at your vocation, you understand 'lead times' and how they affect your production output. At any time, I have seen lead times of six to twelve weeks and planned production taking those times into account. Going on six months though: someone is seriously incompetent, or perhaps an organization is credit challenged and on a cash only basis with vendors. Who knows. At a publicly held company, there would be new faces everywhere.
Perhaps VR buyer(s) phased-out their orders of current parts and phased-in the new 'upgraded' parts based on their vendors published lead-times only to get screwed by the new vendors not meeting their PO dates?
Now VR has no stock left to build more existing models while they are hanging out in the wind waiting for the new parts for the new upgraded V1.
 
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I can understand the frustration that a few buyers might have currently and the resulting ultimatum attitude that a subset of those buyers might develop.
I don't think buyers is the right word here..... Or it least it hasn't been for a few months now.
 

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I admire everything VR accomplished over the past 30 years but Sears should have been Amazon and never saw the writing on the wall... Why you ask? They refused to change! The current V1 is like my O3 Cobra. Yes still a good car but the new models are just loaded with new tech that can not be brought over to my car. VR has an audience but it's shrinking by the day.
 

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I admire everything VR accomplished over the past 30 years but Sears should have been Amazon and never saw the writing on the wall... Why you ask? They refused to change! The current V1 is like my O3 Cobra. Yes still a good car but the new models are just loaded with new tech that can not be brought over to my car. VR has an audience but it's shrinking by the day.
I agree the audience is like the old knob excuse for the delay. The older the knob the smaller it gets.
 

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I picked up an R7 from Best Buy in March. Used it for a couple of weeks, with inpressive results, before returning to Best Buy. Instead I deceided to wait anxiously, like many here for the new/updated V1. The endless tease, two weeks, then June, July, August, and now September. Ugh! Residing in VA Im not under the gun as RD are illegal here. If the R7 was stealth as implied, I wouldnt even write this post. But alas, its not. So, like an idiot, I will wait through September. If V1 cannot deliver I will surrender my enthusiam and optimisim in owning a V1 forever. RIP V1
 

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I admire everything VR accomplished over the past 30 years but Sears should have been Amazon and never saw the writing on the wall... Why you ask? They refused to change! The current V1 is like my O3 Cobra. Yes still a good car but the new models are just loaded with new tech that can not be brought over to my car. VR has an audience but it's shrinking by the day.

To be fair to sears. They actually did change with the times from how they first started

Mail catelogs to retail space. I don’t know if they could have changed again to get with the times. Seems like every business with that type of business model has suffered and needed serious cash infusions to stay in business if they didn’t go out of business. (The bay,eatons. Etc)

Could be the way things work out. Much like the movie rentals and arcades.

Serious shift in business models where a company owns nothing but takes a percentage as commission to help sell a product or service

Uber,Amazon,Skip the dishes. Etc
 

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To be fair to sears. They actually did change with the times from how they first started

Mail catelogs to retail space. I don’t know if they could have changed again to get with the times. Seems like every business with that type of business model has suffered and needed serious cash infusions to stay in business if they didn’t go out of business. (The bay,eatons. Etc)

Could be the way things work out. Much like the movie rentals and arcades.

Serious shift in business models where a company owns nothing but takes a percentage as commission to help sell a product or service

Uber,Amazon,Skip the dishes. Etc
Sears could have made the jump to the internet and been well established way before amazon and still kept a smaller brick and mortar footprint. Mike has a following but it's basically techies and old guys like me and it's a dying business model like the malls. VR needs more then built in Bluetooth to shake things up. These are just my observations over the past 30 years. Change is good as long as the changes make the product better...
 

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Sears has ZERO bearing to the discussion here that should be centered on V1 exclusively. Post Lampert, there was never a goal to compete with anyone, anywhere or in any manner, ever. The entire objective of slick Eddie was to transfer all shareholder value to himself, and the entire business and regulatory world allowed it. Mentioning Sears and V1 in the same paragraph is absurd on every level.
 

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Sears has ZERO bearing to the discussion here that should be centered on V1 exclusively. Post Lampert, there was never a goal to compete with anyone, anywhere or in any manner, ever. The entire objective of slick Eddie was to transfer all shareholder value to himself, and the entire business and regulatory world allowed it. Mentioning Sears and V1 in the same paragraph is absurd on every level.
Your missing the point. Lampert has been with Sears since 07. Amazon was a start up in 94. This is not a pissing match all I'm saying is VR has been left at the dock and it's time to sink or sail....
 

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Pretty sure the V1 ranks have lost members on this very forum to other detector vendors. With no product to sell, you aren't going to make it on accessories alone. Get too close to the release of another product and folks are likely to sit on their money and let them duke it out to see what's best.
Pretty sure? OK, that's convinced me with the power of your argument.
Except, I've seen a few posts from people buying V1's after having the flavour of the month.
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House moving time. Two weeks has aged me by two years
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MV should start sourcing his parts from America rather than China.
The irony of this is breathtaking.
The difference is that consumers are under no illusion that Uniden products are made in America.
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Like Harley's?
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The ability to hop off the windshield and transform into a self-powered fleshlight during periods of no alerts?
That feature alone would make most of the antis change to VR.
 
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Uniden,radenso and Escort engineers are not playing Monopoly 8 hrs a day. VR put the wood to everyone years ago but the tide has shifted and to stay relevant they will need to change their ways. Sometimes the dog learns new tricks. I'm here because I truly like the product but it needs to get up to speed!
 

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Your missing the point. Lampert has been with Sears since 07. Amazon was a start up in 94. This is not a pissing match all I'm saying is VR has been left at the dock and it's time to sink or sail....
Umm, you really don't know what you are talking about. Sears was acquired in 2004. There was never any intention to innovate or enhance the business. The point remains, while everyone is certainly disappointed in this Out of Stock issue - No one more than Mike, the fact is, likening Valentine 1's story to Sears is dumb, period.
 

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Umm, you really don't know what you are talking about. Sears was acquired in 2004. There was never any intention to innovate or enhance the business. The point remains, while everyone is certainly disappointed in this Out of Stock issue - No one more than Mike, the fact is, likening Valentine 1's story to Sears is dumb, period.
That's a little harsh don't you think?
Analogies are made to emphasize a point, not always to have an exact relationship.

I can see the similarities in that both companies appear to have not been able to keep up with innovation.

Thread closing in five, four, three................
 

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Don't you guys think this Doom and Gloom is a little overdone? Sears was never going to be anything but ground to death. There was never any plan to bring about any level of success there. Comparing the two companies is ridiculous.

Sure, Mike has ran into some issues with planning whatever is behind Door #1, but there is absolutely no parallel with the future trajectories here. Once the the new model is released, this will be just a distant footnote that will be forgotten immediately, and they will sell everything they can produce.

We have no idea what has really occurred in house, and there very well could have been manufacturing defects or a number of other issues that contributed to the delay. Chit happens, and when you only have one product, it's definitely front and center, no doubt.

The point is, listening to people bashing the company every frigging day, and suggesting a similarity to Sears is stupid. I mean, if you guys think Mike is really just fleecing the company and readying his golden parachute, why the hell are you numbnuts wasting your time here? Get on with your life.
 

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Umm, you really don't know what you are talking about. Sears was acquired in 2004. There was never any intention to innovate or enhance the business. The point remains, while everyone is certainly disappointed in this Out of Stock issue - No one more than Mike, the fact is, likening Valentine 1's story to Sears is dumb, period.
Sears was an innovator and is Mike but to stay on top you need to make hard decisions and change with the times.. Frank Sinatra could not have just sang I did it my way and just change a word or two and expect to keep on top. Mike dropped the ball but I am rooting for him to pick it up and run like the wind...Sears sealed its fate long before Lampert joined Kmart and Sears. The ship was sinking and the sharks were in the water.. Both are nothing but a real estate grab. Back to when will Mike get us a radar detector? 2 weeks? Anyone Anyone.. Don't be shy and try not to take things I write personally It's just my analogy. Nothing more. Nothing less...
 
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We all can have differing opinions on what has happened, what will happen, etc.
What remains to be seen is what does happen and what we find out at that time.

When they begin shipping again we may or may not be able to see an obvious difference. We may have to test it out to discover what it all means. At that point, some of us might decide that it's not currently worth the upgrade while others will have decided it doesn't matter.
All of that is okay. :)
 

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I picked up an R7 from Best Buy in March. Used it for a couple of weeks, with inpressive results, before returning to Best Buy. Instead I deceided to wait anxiously, like many here for the new/updated V1. The endless tease, two weeks, then June, July, August, and now September. Ugh! Residing in VA Im not under the gun as RD are illegal here. If the R7 was stealth as implied, I wouldnt even write this post. But alas, its not. So, like an idiot, I will wait through September. If V1 cannot deliver I will surrender my enthusiam and optimisim in owning a V1 forever. RIP V1
But wait, the V1 is not stealth as well. Missed your point I guess?
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Sears was an innovator and is Mike but to stay on top you need to make hard decisions and change with the times.. Frank Sinatra could not have just sang I did it my way and just change a word or two and expect to keep on top. Mike dropped the ball but I am rooting for him to pick it up and run like the wind...Sears sealed its fate long before Lampert joined Kmart and Sears. The ship was sinking and the sharks were in the water.. Both are nothing but a real estate grab. Back to when will Mike get us a radar detector? 2 weeks? Anyone Anyone.. Don't be shy and try not to take things I write personally It's just my analogy. Nothing more. Nothing less...
It appears that he's ramping up hiring for something (see thread here) . Holidays, new products? Your guess and speculation is as good as mine!!
 

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In a past life, I have worked as a MRO buyer and as a purchasing agent. As such, if you are reasonably competent at your vocation, you understand 'lead times' and how they affect your production output. At any time, I have seen lead times of six to twelve weeks and planned production taking those times into account. Going on six months though: someone is seriously incompetent, or perhaps an organization is credit challenged and on a cash only basis with vendors. Who knows. At a publicly held company, there would be new faces everywhere.

You can ask:

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But wait, the V1 is not stealth as well. Missed your point I guess?
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It appears that he's ramping up hiring for something (see thread here) . Holidays, new products? Your guess and speculation is as good as mine!!
Like I said I hope VR hits it out of the park! I'm just frustrated that Mike never ramped up customer service over the past 20 years. It's easy to fall into bad habits but difficult to unw
But wait, the V1 is not stealth as well. Missed your point I guess?
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It appears that he's ramping up hiring for something (see thread here) . Holidays, new products? Your guess and speculation is as good as mine!!
All I want is a new V1 for Christmas By new I mean something we can sink our teeth into for years to come!
 

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