R7 Performance in Bulgaria

Marty K

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Hi, all.
I had some time driving in Bulgaria (Europe) last month, and sure had my R7 to test there. I understand this is a US-based unit, but wanted to see what it can do in Europe. Not surprisingly, police encounters were rare. In fact, I had more speed cams encounters (not GPS based notifications, only actual radar detections), than LEOs. So here are few of the "better" ones:

1. Oncoming LEOs - I/O - K band 24.106:

2. MRCD - K band 24.065 (look to the left, at 0:18 of the video) - only 5 seconds to react!

3. Speed Cam - K band 24.080 - 24.085 (look to the right, at 0:48 of the video):

4. Speed Cam (same as #3, but approaching from opposite direction) - look to your left, at 0:18 of the video, right after the truck that passed by:
Last video has the "bonus footage" (towards the end) of how we pass vehicles in BG - gotta "squeeze" every opportunity you got...

Hope you enjoy the videos, just something different...

P.S. - For the record: K band wide, TFS Off, K block ON, K filter ON, X Band On. I heard that LEOs are still using X band units with cameras (taking pic while passing by when speeding, then get a ticket over the mail). But the only real LEO encounter was actually K band. I got maybe 3 or 4 X band alerts, and all were from automatic doors nearby.
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A bonus video - semi passing on a short stretch / limited visibility. I had to slow down, just in case. The "usual" experience in BG:

 
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Does your detector go ballistic too every time you pass a gas station on the highway ?

I made it from the Panagyurishte exit on the highway to Sunny Beach in less than two hours (basically two something hours from Panagyurishte to Sunny Beach, slowdowns at the end and all), then back to Panagyurishte at the end of the day in maybe a few minutes more, criss-crossed back and forth with never a thought about radars with my GT-7 beeping joyfully to anything and everything, and the only place I eventually got a fine (automated) was the one where I never heard a beep - the road from the highway to Kyustendil, probably around Nevestino.
 
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Does your detector go ballistic too every time you pass a gas station on the highway ?

I made it from the Panagyurishte exit on the highway to Sunny Beach in less than two hours (basically two something hours from Panagyurishte to Sunny Beach, slowdowns at the end and all), then back to Panagyurishte at the end of the day in maybe a few minutes more, criss-crossed back and forth with never a thought about radars with my GT-7 beeping joyfully to anything and everything, and the only place I eventually got a fine (automated) was the one where I never heard a beep - the road from the highway to Kyustendil, probably around Nevestino.
Not much, it picks the automatic doors, but the signal is not strong, unless I actually pull over and stop at one. Much less falses with TSF ON, but I left it off to get maximum range and sensitivity. Plenty of old cars in Bulgaria, so BSM falsing is not much of a problem.

As far I can see, the GT-7 goes down to 24.050 on K band, so maybe it was a speed cam (MRCD) that had lower frequency? I know they can operate as low as 23.800. The MRCD on my video was 24.065. Also, I have heard that Ku band is quite common in Europe, so our units would be totally blind to it.
 

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@Marty K, you happened to test just the same low powered K-band Siemens camera that I tested here :LOL:
I was detecting this camera on 24.063 GHz K-band. The other MRCD cam is "Multa Radar CD 580".
I see R7 did well enough even better than my R1 which is understandable considering its hardware. Uniden copes well here in most situations.
Actually you drove around my area. If we knew each other, I would have bought you a beer and we would have made some tests together because I know the places where they usually set speed traps. It is not very often opportunity to meet a RDF member here.
You was driving across the country in a time when obviously not so many traffic control were present there. But there are days, when you could encounter patrol cars every 10 or 20 kilometers. Where you obviously drove, was in Northern part of the country. The roads here aren't that big and good as in the Southern part but there are two highways in a construction now, including Ruse - Veliko Tarnovo. There have been endless court appeal procedures from years by the citizens affected from the nearby passing highway routes, that were overruled by the supreme court on July, the 15th and now the effective work is allowed to go on. And now this old international transit road I-5 is overloaded and very dangerous, one of the most dangerous in the country Ruse - Biala. You didn't have to risk such overtaking right there, it's just not healthy. Yeah, as you heard, they are still using X band here but also K band with MPH Bee III and Soitron units. I know. You came round to that by yourself. Ku band is not applicable here. There are a few European countries that are still using it, like Hungary, but is very rare and is slowly fading out.
 

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@Marty K, you happened to test just the same low powered K-band Siemens camera that I tested here :LOL:
I was detecting this camera on 24.063 GHz K-band. The other MRCD cam is "Multa Radar CD 580".
I see R7 did well enough even better than my R1 which is understandable considering its hardware. Uniden copes well here in most situations.
Actually you drove around my area. If we knew each other, I would have bought you a beer and we would have made some tests together because I know the places where they usually set speed traps. It is not very often opportunity to meet a RDF member here.
You was driving across the country in a time when obviously not so many traffic control were present there. But there are days, when you could encounter patrol cars every 10 or 20 kilometers. Where you obviously drove, was in Northern part of the country. The roads here aren't that big and good as in the Southern part but there are two highways in a construction now, including Ruse - Veliko Tarnovo. There have been endless court appeal procedures from years by the citizens affected from the nearby passing highway routes, that were overruled by the supreme court on July, the 15th and now the effective work is allowed to go on. And now this old international transit road I-5 is overloaded and very dangerous, one of the most dangerous in the country Ruse - Biala. You didn't have to risk such overtaking right there, it's just not healthy. Yeah, as you heard, they are still using X band here but also K band with MPH Bee III and Soitron units. I know. You came round to that by yourself. Ku band is not applicable here. There are a few European countries that are still using it, like Hungary, but is very rare and is slowly fading out.
@skd,
Thank you for your feedback.
I had plenty of bulgarian beer while there (of course, not when driving). I drove about 2500 km altogether, but had very few real encounters. One thing I forgot to do is enable POP for K band. Maybe I could have detected more police radars that way. In Ruse or other big towns I was just switching to City Mode to minimize the false alerts (mostly from automatic doors, not really issues with BSM from new vehicles).
Do the local police really uses POP mode? I am curious if just a POP speed reading can be valid to issue a ticket, or it needs to be verified with at least an I/O shot or Q/T??
I have not been there permanently in the last 15 years, so not sure what all has changed...
 

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It's not about the beer really. Just about meeting and fun. I've mentioned that yes, they do use POP every now and then. I have met both scenarios with following CO and without. But most probably you haven't encounter anything that much because of the hot weather and traditionally lower control rate this time of the year. Besides we are more liberal contry, much more free than is necessary sometimes, I think. Some love this, some dont. Romania is the only similar too liberal state here. Both are two of a few remaining ones where RD's are legal and this is not by chance. Third reason, LIDAR cameras have been recently more often used. Uniden isnt likely to detect a lidar cam.

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Do they still pull people over by waving the little hand sign and hoping you stop?
Sorry, I don't get your point with the "little hand sign". And "hoping"? That's hilarious. It is not at least recommendable for anybody to disobey police orders, wherever that may be! :) You simply will be chased, busted and arrested and probably jailed after fast procedure. Nothing new under the sky. You gotta be kidding.
 

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(not GPS based notifications, only actual radar detections),
You perhaps didn't know it but I have built a Uniden gps database for Europe. It could do with more testing and updating but it does exist if people wish to use it and evaluate it. This is compatible with all the Uniden gps enabled detectors.
 

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You perhaps didn't know it but I have built a Uniden gps database for Europe. It could do with more testing and updating but it does exist if people wish to use it and evaluate it. This is compatible with all the Uniden gps enabled detectors.
Where can we find the European db?
 

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Where can we find the European db?
Sorry, for not replying sooner, people will have to request it from me on here in a personal message.

I'm not making this generally available. There are sellers on Ebay who would love to have this as a sales advantage. Radar detectors are also not legal in many European countries so Uniden also is likely not going to approve. Therefore if you want to send me your serial number for the R3 or R7 I can build it and send to you.

It has been tried by a few people, and probably needs a bit of updating though, depending which country you're in.
 

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Oh my! Lads, I wrote to Uniden support the other day asking what's the situation with Euro firmware/models, but it seems you might be able to give me more than a clue. I'm considering an Uniden unit for my next RD, but am unsure whether they are able to detect all the crap currently used in Bulgaria. So how do they behave locally? Do they see that new laser gadget - the ARH S1? What about the MPH-BEE III's used in the KIA's? Is there an EU firmware or is it fine just out of the box?
 
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Oh my! Lads, I wrote to Uniden support the other day asking what's the situation with Euro firmware/models, but it seems you might be able to give me more than a clue. I'm considering an Uniden unit for my next RD, but am unsure whether they are able to detect all the crap currently used in Bulgaria. So how do they behave locally? Do they see that new laser gadget - the ARH S1? What about the MPH-BEE III's used in the KIA's? Is there an EU firmware or is it fine just out of the box?
Uniden doesn't officially support their detectors in Europe yet. Having said that there are a few people with R3s and R7s in Europe. @nano might be able to point you in the right direction.

I can provide you with an encrypted copy of the Eu database for your Uniden detector. If you have access to more gps camera data then we can also improve the European database.
 

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Sorry, for not replying sooner, people will have to request it from me on here in a personal message.

I'm not making this generally available. There are sellers on Ebay who would love to have this as a sales advantage. Radar detectors are also not legal in many European countries so Uniden also is likely not going to approve. Therefore if you want to send me your serial number for the R3 or R7 I can build it and send to you.

It has been tried by a few people, and probably needs a bit of updating though, depending which country you're in.
Sounds good. Thanks. I won't be travelling to EU until next year, but I can hit you up so I can test it while I'm there. Thanks again!
 

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I'm considering an Uniden unit for my next RD, but am unsure whether they are able to detect all the crap currently used in Bulgaria. So how do they behave locally? Do they see that new laser gadget - the ARH S1? What about the MPH-BEE III's used in the KIA's? Is there an EU firmware or is it fine just out of the box?
My R1 copes well enough with all the crap here. Just before the holidays, when police was in action, it detected one of those old mobile X band radars way before the control point LOL But ARH S1 is "different beer" as we like to say. Does Uniden detect it? It might but it might not. More than 50% possibility is to fail against it. That's because this cam is a lidar robot low deployed towards the license plate on a steady tripod base and without human interference. You need a laser jammer for that to be on the safe side. "Cheapest" option is Kiyo, as you probably know.
 
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