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Without a lot of extra cost for those that want it; Valentine did provide GPS capability, multi-line numerical/graphical display in different formats, a larger remote screen, additional muting capabilities, touch screen, etc. by converting to the Extended Serial Protocol in 2012 and letting the customer use their phone. As noted previously, there is a perfectly usable app provided by Valentine to go with this ESP protocol. The other apps are customizations and extensions of those original app functions.

There are also patents in the works for a dedicated remote display that appears to be more along the lines of what a phone looks like.

Some like this idea, some don't; but it's entirely possible that he'd have a whole lot to say about those decisions as well.
 

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And another application, joins the glide path. Mike will end up 4 patents approved by end of 2019.

Approved Patents:
Patent NoTitleFiledPatent Approved
10261171​
Combined display of radar signal direction and strength
8/17/2015​
4/16/2019​
10261170​
Image analysis and radar detectors
6/2/2015​
4/16/2019​

Pending Applications:
Application NoTitleFiledEstimated Approval Date
15/486,852High Probability of intercept radar detector (Rev 1)
4/13/2017​
12/12/2019​
15/486,902High Probability of intercept radar detector (Rev 3)
4/13/2017​
1/6/2020
(not exactly 2019)​

Not a bad year, just needs to get the product out now.

Let the speculation begin.
 
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The thing with mike is this. How many ppl in the industry really have more knowledge and experience than mike? I’m sure if mike sat down and gave technical points on why he does the things he does. I think pretty much all of us at the end would be shaking our heads in agreement regardless of what we want in a detector.

I wanted a V1 that had a lot of the features that competition had while retaining V1 dna. But it never to fruitation. It was hard to me accept at first. But I can to the realization mike vision day 1 is what he really meant from the get go. Like I said. Mike could have given more range and a numerical display a long long time ago. I’m sure mike with his think tank. He could have found a way around to get a gps in there.

U got to ask yourself why he didn’t do those things. And really be prepare accept the answer.
This is just fun and games for me if VR went away today nothing on my end is effected. I agree with a lot of what you state but I for whatever reason think once the arrows were not his alone MV would find something to put him back on top. This is just me saying Mike wants to go out with a bang but yes a wimper is very possible too...
 

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This is just fun and games for me if VR went away today nothing on my end is effected. I agree with a lot of what you state but I for whatever reason think once the arrows were not his alone MV would find something to put him back on top. This is just me saying Mike wants to go out with a bang but yes a wimper is very possible too...

What would u consider a bang though?

Say mike “new” V1 had more range, a numeric display but still no gps functionality


As a stand-alone detector is that is really a “bang”

The V1 was a game changer for detectors.

The only thing i can mike doing that would be a “bang” would creating a crazy in house app thaf reaches far beyond the current 3rd party apps
 

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The only thing i can mike doing that would be a “bang” would creating a crazy in house app thaf reaches far beyond the current 3rd party apps
Why would he pay to do that when there are very talented people doing it for free?
Mike is a cunning as an outhouse rat.
 

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Mike has made a POINT to tell people that GPS in a detector isn't all that it is cracked up to be.
He has made a POINT to tell people that GPS in a detector is ONLY about autolockouts, then spun this around right front and center, while providing as a solution for low speed mute and an OBD connected contraption that has to stay plugged with half a page of disclaimers of half the issues it can cause such as OBD error codes and whatnot, rather than bite the bullet and caugh whatever's needed, Uniden style, to have a a detector with a simple [email protected]#$ gps chip for %#[email protected]# LOW SPEED MUTE, which is the main point of GPS in a detector aside from any autolockouts which might be useful or not.

Honestly, I was quite hot on getting a V1 when I came here, but if 1/10 of the "Mike is", "Mike says", "Mike does" things that are presumed in these here threads are 1/10 true, I'm staying away and watching that beautiful Hindenburg mast.

Yes, that software that is done for it looks beautiful, but an app is an app - it's separate from the device itself, and good luck with those cables and dongles.
Rant mode off
 

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He has made a POINT to tell people that GPS in a detector is ONLY about autolockouts, then spun this around right front and center, while providing as a solution for low speed mute and an OBD connected contraption that has to stay plugged with half a page of disclaimers of half the issues it can cause such as OBD error codes and whatnot, rather than bite the bullet and caugh whatever's needed, Uniden style, to have a a detector with a simple [email protected]#$ gps chip for %#[email protected]# LOW SPEED MUTE, which is the main point of GPS in a detector aside from any autolockouts which might be useful or not.

Honestly, I was quite hot on getting a V1 when I came here, but if 1/10 of the "Mike is", "Mike says", "Mike does" things that are presumed in these here threads are 1/10 true, I'm staying away and watching that beautiful Hindenburg mast.

Yes, that software that is done for it looks beautiful, but an app is an app - it's separate from the device itself, and good luck with those cables and dongles.
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If you believe stuff on forums without trying for yourself, life gets very limited.
The accepted wisdom here in the land of 99% Jap cars, everyone says Euros are unreliable.
I haven't found that in either of our cars. It's the same with everything on the net.
As for cables and dongles, they are easily replaced (not that I've had to), try doing that with any internally equipped GPS detector.
And, I have a display that no detector manufacturer will ever provide.
 

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If you believe stuff on forums without trying for yourself, life gets very limited.
The accepted wisdom here in the land of 99% Jap cars, everyone says Euros are unreliable.
I haven't found that in either of our cars. It's the same with everything on the net.
As for cables and dongles, they are easily replaced (not that I've had to), try doing that with any internally equipped GPS detector.
And, I have a display that no detector manufacturer will ever provide.
Ummmm... A GPS detector is just as easy to replace as anything else. Either buy a new one or send it in for fix/replacement. I guess you're trying to say you still have a detector, if the dongle that gives you access to GPS breaks.. But the fault in that logic is that you've now lost everything else the dongle was providing making the V1 different than when the dongle is working. So is there much of a difference, if one just lost the GPS function and the detector was still working?

As for the Display.. You're right, I don't think anyone else makes such an early 1990's display these days at the V1 price point.

Oh.. car wise... I've got Euro, Jap, and American in my drive way. I can say that none have left me stranded and the Toy has 294K miles on it. Where I do find a difference is cost of parts (maintenance and body parts... BMW got hit a couple weeks ago). The dang BMW parts are 2-3x the cost of the non-Euro. The Ram is slightly more than the Toy.. So even with no break downs, when it comes to cost of ownership, the Toyota is the cheapest by far.
 

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That's not the display he's talking about... I think you know that. :eyebrow:
 

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Ummmm... A GPS detector is just as easy to replace as anything else. Either buy a new one or send it in for fix/replacement. I guess you're trying to say you still have a detector, if the dongle that gives you access to GPS breaks.. But the fault in that logic is that you've now lost everything else the dongle was providing making the V1 different than when the dongle is working. So is there much of a difference, if one just lost the GPS function and the detector was still working?

As for the Display.. You're right, I don't think anyone else makes such an early 1990's display these days at the V1 price point.

Oh.. car wise... I've got Euro, Jap, and American in my drive way. I can say that none have left me stranded and the Toy has 294K miles on it. Where I do find a difference is cost of parts (maintenance and body parts... BMW got hit a couple weeks ago). The dang BMW parts are 2-3x the cost of the non-Euro. The Ram is slightly more than the Toy.. So even with no break downs, when it comes to cost of ownership, the Toyota is the cheapest by far.
If your GPS fails on whatever you use, it's highly likely the fault will also shut down the detector. Even if it doesn't, how long do you want to go without CM's while you send back the unit?
Those with multiple units are in the minority by far.
You seem to have missed the point of the car comparison. Let me try to explain it again.
I'm not shouting, just being clear, YOU CAN'T TRUST INTERNET EXPERTS.
 

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