Comparison wanted - R3 (1.37) vs R7 (current) - K band reactivity speed

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Not to sound like a broken record, but the R3 on 1.37 reacts almost instantly with my Bushnell but on 1.48 and 1.50 it takes much much longer to alert to my Bushnell.

I am on the fence about adding an R7 to my collection but might pass if the same delay with K exists in the R7 as it does in the newer firmware of the R3. Is there anyone out there willing to do a test of this? I am not looking for scientific numbers, just a good sense of what they do compared to each other.

In specific this is done with QT pulls, not C/O.

Is it possible Uniden introduced a 'delay' with stronger k-band hits to reduce BSM falsing in the newer firmware (figuring if you got that strong of a hit you were toast anyway?). Or is the delay due to the introduction of the MRCD (even though it is set to off with my units).

My settings - Advanced, X off, rest at 100%, TSF Off, K-filter on, 2/4/5/6/8

I just feel bad buying an R7, giving it a quick test and sending it back if it behaves like the R3 on 1.50 with K.

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have you tried turning off TSF and k filter and try again with the bushnell?
 

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have you tried turning off TSF and k filter and try again with the bushnell?
I never run with TSF on and K filter is always on - it is a 'must' - might as well run a RL-O if you don't run the K-filter, ha!
 

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Not to sound like a broken record, but the R3 on 1.37 reacts almost instantly with my Bushnell but on 1.48 and 1.50 it takes much much longer to alert to my Bushnell.

I am on the fence about adding an R7 to my collection but might pass if the same delay with K exists in the R7 as it does in the newer firmware of the R3. Is there anyone out there willing to do a test of this? I am not looking for scientific numbers, just a good sense of what they do compared to each other.

In specific this is done with QT pulls, not C/O.

Is it possible Uniden introduced a 'delay' with stronger k-band hits to reduce BSM falsing in the newer firmware (figuring if you got that strong of a hit you were toast anyway?). Or is the delay due to the introduction of the MRCD (even though it is set to off with my units).

My settings - Advanced, X off, rest at 100%, TSF Off, K-filter on, 2/4/5/6/8

I just feel bad buying an R7, giving it a quick test and sending it back if it behaves like the R3 on 1.50 with K.

Thanks!
Why are you on 1.48 or 1.50? Is MRCD a threat in your area? If not just go back to 1.37. I'm still on 1.31 just because I don't currently need the extra bells and whistle's and I know my detections are strong. If you don't need the extra features, just go back to 1.37.
 

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Why are you on 1.48 or 1.50? Is MRCD a threat in your area? If not just go back to 1.37. I'm still on 1.31 just because I don't currently need the extra bells and whistle's and I know my detections are strong. If you don't need the extra features, just go back to 1.37.
If MRCD were a threat then running 1.48/1.50 would be a ticket guarantee...

I am literally stunned that Uniden hasnt reverted back to 1.46 MRCD ability.

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If MRCD were a threat then running 1.48/1.50 would be a ticket guarantee...

I am literally stunned that Uniden hasnt reverted back to 1.46 MRCD ability.

Posted from my SM-G975F using the RDF Mobile App!
Well you never go back with technology, only forward! I'm sure they will come up with a firmware revision in the future with the bugs ironed out. They have been outstanding thus far.
 

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Just so happens I did a bench test on all 3 of my R1's last night after I installed 1.50. It seems identical to 1.48. I still think 1.37 is the fastest with K filter and TFS however, but since I hardly ever face K band any more, I'm willing to deal with this for 1.50 with K block!
Tests with TSF On look to be similar to 1.48. I would also like to see results with TSF Off since I hadn’t heard there was a penalty post 1.37 until the OP’s report.
 

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I can tell you I run my r7 with all the k filters on and wide and I believe its better than my r3 on version 1.37..
 

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With Range on my R7 being better ... same with sensitivity, I had to turn my R3 to Adv 80% K band to match 50% on my R7, I don't feel reactivity matters.

Reason is, if the LEO targets you with IO, you're toast. It won't matter if one alerted you a 1/2 seconder quicker than the other. But if I'm picking up an IO shot at someone that's in front of me.. Well, the R7 will give me way more warning.
 

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Why are you on 1.48 or 1.50? Is MRCD a threat in your area? If not just go back to 1.37. I'm still on 1.31 just because I don't currently need the extra bells and whistle's and I know my detections are strong. If you don't need the extra features, just go back to 1.37.
I went back to 1.37 last night - but with the R7 I do not have an 'non-MRCD' firmware version, like we do with the R3. That is why I was asking how it compares with the Q/T shots.

Reason is, if the LEO targets you with IO, you're toast. It won't matter if one alerted you a 1/2 seconder quicker than the other. But if I'm picking up an IO shot at someone that's in front of me.. Well, the R7 will give me way more warning.
Yes, and no - not if the shot is from around the bend through the trees and just a whiff. 1.37 may pick it up but 1.50 might not given the significant delay difference I have tested/seen. 1.37 might possibly save you from the ticket where 1.50 will say sign here. There are only a few people on here with the equipment to really test/time what I am looking to answer though.
 

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I'm going to be honest with you...the R7 it's better than the R3 on version 1.37.. My only test equipment is I've run them both. If your on the fence to buy the R7..just do it... The ramp up on the r7 might not be as well refined all the time and the rear antenna may be slightly more sensitive than the front but a r3 with arrows it's what you get.. at the least.
 

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Do your results look similar to this?
 

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I went back to 1.37 last night - but with the R7 I do not have an 'non-MRCD' firmware version, like we do with the R3. That is why I was asking how it compares with the Q/T shots.



Yes, and no - not if the shot is from around the bend through the trees and just a whiff. 1.37 may pick it up but 1.50 might not given the significant delay difference I have tested/seen. 1.37 might possibly save you from the ticket where 1.50 will say sign here. There are only a few people on here with the equipment to really test/time what I am looking to answer though.
I'm on vacation right now and don't have all my equipment. But if you can wait... ;)
 

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I'm on vacation right now and don't have all my equipment. But if you can wait... ;)
I have all the time in the world to wait! I will take a video showing the differences I see between 1.37 & 1.50 compared to the 360 in the next few days - it is a bit surprising.
 

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Still on vacation.
 

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I just tested this using my Bushnell and R7 on the 124 fw. Was in the car in close proximity to the RD. Tested two configs:


R7 with k filter=on, tsf=on, k-block=on, City Mode, k narrow (this is my normal config):

Reacts pretty fast...at most I noticed a 1/2 sec delay from pulling the trigger.​

R7 with k filter=OFF, tsf=OFF, k-block=on, K=100% sensitivity, k wide:

RD is a little faster to alert to the first shot, maybe 1/4s. Second and 3rd shot withing 5 seconds of previous alerts are nearly instant.​

What I found surprising was the extremely long alert hold and ramp down from releasing the trigger of about 7 seconds.
 
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this is great. thank you
 

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