Kustom Eagle 35.5 radar test and intel

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So I was able to purchase on of these babies

It is good intel on the enemy per say,let me know if you want me to test something in particular or if you live in the Miami area and would like to test your RD against KA 35.5

So far I have found the following :

1: getting a lock sometimes is trick on busy traffic, you have to make direct eye contact with the car and match it with the doppler, so although radar could be used on busy traffic, I don't see it usable on more than 4 lanes with busy traffic , maybe light traffic if you can spot the car since the beam is huge !

2: while driving down the highway I can easily get the speed of traffic on the other side of the interstate and turnpike, I caught a car doing 95 mph while driving on the opposite direction, if I was a cop and able to make a u-turn I would had gotten him, cops driving the opposite direction even with a wide separation are a real threat!.

3:while using the HOLD option (instant on) I noticed that the lock is instantaneous the moment you release the Hold, moving or stationary.

4:There really was not a need to run instant on because in just 30 minutes of driving around with moving CO I was able to spot several cars doing way over 20 mph, using instant on while driving can be distracting , while CO provides constant monitoring of the road, so I would not trouble my self with instant on unless radar detectors were a huge issue on my area.

5:IT is easy with the remote to change to rear antenna to front and same direction and opposite, but I would assume most cops will drive with the Antenna forward with opposite direction unless they see someone approaching quickly from behind or unless on the freeway where there are no U turns.

6:the System was crazy easy to install and accurate, with some reading of the owner's manual and some messing around with it I considered myself proficient in about 2 hours .

7: for the cop to get a lock on moving CO the cop has to hold a steady speed, they cannot be accelerating or stopping as the speed displayed has to match your vehicle or it is not accurate,something to keep in mind if stopped that could be used in court.

I am sure more modern units have better features, but I am sure that radar manufacturers do not mess around too much because it would discourage cops from upgrading or would require re-certification that would also discourage purchase of new units.










 
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That's some good information. Interesting to see that it gets both oncoming and same direction traffic from the median, be careful going both ways with a LEO parked like that. I usually right him off if I'm driving with no CM as shooting the other way to do a spin around.
 

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That's some good information. Interesting to see that it gets both oncoming and same direction traffic from the median, be careful going both ways with a LEO parked like that. I usually right him off if I'm driving with no CM as shooting the other way to do a spin around.
I can also switch to rear antenna with the press of a button.

Some of the newer units like the Dual stalker can monitor both antennas at the same time and both directions.
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Here , I wanted to do a full demonstration but the camera moved up so it was all for nothing.

But this part was good., it displays the target ability of the KA 35.5 golden eagle, as well as a busted speeder and some weird false.

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I am thinking the last false was maybe a low flying Cessna?
 
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Wow that was some decent distance on the leader guy hauling! :aaa:
 

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Considering how long police radar has been in use, I'm surprised by the flaky behaviour of your units' readings (126 mph without a car in sight and no reading on another moving car). Perhaps this explains the occasional situation where I knew I for sure I'd been owned but wasn't stopped. Technology is far from perfect is the lesson.
 

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Considering how long police radar has been in use, I'm surprised by the flaky behaviour of your units' readings (126 mph without a car in sight and no reading on another moving car). Perhaps this explains the occasional situation where I knew I for sure I'd been owned but wasn't stopped. Technology is far from perfect is the lesson.
I am thinking it may had been a low flying Cessna, 126 mph is in line with what a low flying plane would be doing, maybe even a helicopter or an approaching F16 comming in for landing, the air force base is right across the highway, I do not think it was "nothing " it may had been something, but the range of this thing is ridiculous so it is possible to have clocked a plane, that is why in the owners manual it says that if you cannot connect the Doppler noise with the car to disregard the reading.

Some other findings :

1: running stationary radar is a lot easier than moving as far as telling which car is speeding when multiple cars are on the road.

2:even while stationary sometimes it was hard to tell which car was doing the speed displayed on the radar, so you could in theory pass a trooper running radar and he would still let you go because he would not be sure if it was you.There are ways to tell who is the speeding car such as following with your eyes and once it passes your car if the speed disappear then it was him, or if you see a car moving significantly faster than the group.I would say you still have a good chance to get away unless you are the only car in the road.

3: while using moving radar I spotted several cars going over the speed limit going the opposite way, but I was unable to make a U-turn(not that I would because I am not a cop but trying to think like one) because of the median, other times when it was 1 or 2 cars it was easy to tell, lesson to be learned :when in heavy traffic radar is not perfect and most cops won't take the chance unless they spot you, driving a fast looking car defenitely does not help your case, usually when the radar displayed a high speed and I scanned for the speeder I would always go for the fast looking car and I would be right.. if you drive a truck they may be going after the car instead or just disregard lol...

4:The range is ridiculous,I could reduce the range and maybe that would help but sometimes I would be reading a car doing 55 on a 30 and I could not see the car doing that speed clearly in busy traffic.

5:Running CO I got PLENTY of speeders without the need of instant on, I could run CO and I could had written 4 to 6 tickets in an hour no problem , running Instant on makes it easier for the car to spot you and slow down before you get a reading so if I was a cop I would run CO and not worry about radar detector users at all since there are plenty of speeders without the estra stress of dealing with IO

So in abstract, in low traffic it was really easy to tell who was speeding, not so much on busy traffic, but it is doable with some good luck on the officer's side.

Cops that run instant on are specially evil and have a thing against RD users that is for sure, I would only run instant on if my ticket count was low but that did not seem to be the case with the amount of cars speeding.
 

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1: running stationary radar is a lot easier than moving as far as telling which car is speeding when multiple cars are on the road.

2:even while stationary sometimes it was hard to tell which car was doing the speed displayed on the radar, so you could in theory pass a trooper running radar and he would still let you go because he would not be sure if it was you.There are ways to tell who is the speeding car such as following with your eyes and once it passes your car if the speed disappear then it was him, or if you see a car moving significantly faster than the group.I would say you still have a good chance to get away unless you are the only car in the road.
This is where some of the newer directional units shine in stationary mode.

I have a Stalker Dual and in stationary it is more difficult to match the target reading to a car, especially on a 4 lane highway let's say.

I recently picked up a newer version DSR and it allows you to only select vehicles traveling away or closing. Makes a huge difference when used properly. Also has directional arrows which who doesn't like arrows! It is quite fun it play around with these units and learn from them.


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This is where some of the newer directional units shine in stationary mode.

I have a Stalker Dual and in stationary it is more difficult to match the target reading to a car, especially on a 4 lane highway let's say.

I recently picked up a newer version DSR and it allows you to only select vehicles traveling away or closing. Makes a huge difference when used properly. Also has directional arrows which who doesn't like arrows! It is quite fun it play around with these units and learn from them.


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Yeah, I figured the newer units have better features, this one has the ability to pick incoming or outgoing but only on moving mode, not in stationary, in stationary is only both ways, which kind of blows if you are trying to determine if the car that is moving away from you is getting picked up or the one coming closer.

ON moving mode it does a good job at only picking up cars in the direction that you determine, why can't this unit do it? no idea, since it already can while moving.
 

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Awesome testing and explanations. I must say, I would go bonkers after listening to the doppler sound effect after just one traffic patrol work day :omg:

Do all the radar units used by LEO make that sound?
 

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Awesome testing and explanations. I must say, I would go bonkers after listening to the doppler sound effect after just one traffic patrol work day :omg:

Do all the radar units used by LEO make that sound?
Yes, all units have a doppler tone. Some states require it to be turned on, and it definitely gets annoying. Those are probably the ones that do not run C/O all the time.

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Awesome testing and explanations. I must say, I would go bonkers after listening to the doppler sound effect after just one traffic patrol work day :omg:

Do all the radar units used by LEO make that sound?
As rider said, some states require it, but almost all recommend it.

The doppler sound can be useful for a couple of reasons.

1: it helps you "hear" someone speeding while in moving mode, the sound is very distinct based on speed , if you are driving your patrol car and you are looking at the road, the high pitch noise will get your attention and make you look down to the screen.

2:it helps you connect a car to a reading.One of the requirements of proper tracking is observing the car being detected with the reading to make sure you are tracking the right car , if the car is slowing down then the speed should match the slow down as well.Since you can only look at the car or the radar screen at one time, being able to "hear it" while you observe it can help you identify your target.Most cars will slam on the brakes when they see a cop car, so is the slowing down that will do you in in busy traffic.Ironically if you maintained the same speed it would make it harder for the cop to tell who is speeding lol

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A few comments from a Genesis II owner, if you cannot get the speed of a car (seems invisible) that means you are in moving mode and your driving / patrol speed (45 mph) is the same or maybe +/- 1 or 2 mph of the oncoming car (46 mph). Make sense. In stationary mode, you’ll always get a displayed speed. If a car seems invisible, just tap the breaks and slow down and you’ll get a speed reading.

The first video, you have the antenna on the dash at the left. Antenna placement is critical because it WILL detect your AC fan speed through the dash, if it is on, and will interfere with your other readings. Mine will display 20-30 mph for the AC fan if the antenna is near or right over the vent. I have found that the closer to the glass the better. Having the front of the antenna several inches (more than 3-4”) away would cause AC interference.
 
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A few comments from a Genesis II owner, if you cannot get the speed of a car (seems invisible) that means you are in moving mode and your driving / patrol speed (45 mph) is the same or maybe +/- 1 or 2 mph of the oncoming car (46 mph). Make sense. In stationary mode, you’ll always get a displayed speed. If a car seems invisible, just tap the breaks and slow down and you’ll get a speed reading.

The first video, you have the antenna on the dash at the left. Antenna placement is critical because it WILL detect your AC fan speed through the dash, if it is on, and will interfere with your other readings. Mine will display 20-30 mph for the AC fan if the antenna is near or right over the vent. I have found that the closer to the glass the better. Having the front of the antenna several inches (more than 3-4”) away would cause AC interference.
Good tips! thank you.

And the matching speed makes total sense.
 

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