R3 Mute Memory and New Alerts at Same Time

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Hi All -I am running an R3 with v1.48.

If I pass a saved location for an X band alert, Mute Memory shows the R3 is detecting and muting the X band alert. I have noticed that if I am also picking up a K band signal at the same time, the detector remains silent and I do not receive any audible alerts for K band/Ka band.

I presume this is normal but I also don't run into this scenario often. Can anyone shed light on if this is actually what is happening? It does not make sense to me that the detector would mute a completely different signal than the one saved in Mute Memory when both are present. I still want to know that K or Ka band is being emitted around a known X-band false. X, K, and Ka are used in my area.

Thanks in advance!
 

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I believe the bogey tone alert only happens with the same band with different frequencies and "not" different bands. The R3 is not like the V1 were it's bogey tone alerts to different bands and frequencies.
 
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Hi All -I am running an R3 with v1.48.

If I pass a saved location for an X band alert, Mute Memory shows the R3 is detecting and muting the X band alert. I have noticed that if I am also picking up a K band signal at the same time, the detector remains silent and I do not receive any audible alerts for K band/Ka band.

I presume this is normal but I also don't run into this scenario often. Can anyone shed light on if this is actually what is happening? It does not make sense to me that the detector would mute a completely different signal than the one saved in Mute Memory when both are present. I still want to know that K or Ka band is being emitted around a known X-band false. X, K, and Ka are used in my area.

Thanks in advance!
I know that a new Ka band signal with alert in a K-band lockout area (assuming you have lockouts limited to K and X, but I don't think it's ever been tested whether X band will alert when in a K band lockout area.
 

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I have X-band off on my R3 (and other detectors that I own), and when I did use mute memory/manual lockouts on my R3 (and it has happened on several Escorts with lockouts too) I have had my R3 stay silent on real police K-band when my R3 was locking out a K-band door opener on a particular stretch of road in my city with several K-band door openers. I would definitely think the R3 should have given you an audible alert to a different radar band in your scenario.


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I know that a new Ka band signal with alert in a K-band lockout area (assuming you have lockouts limited to K and X, but I don't think it's ever been tested whether X band will alert when in a K band lockout area.
If he did not choose Ka priority, Ka band will not alert to a strong X or K band signal.
 

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If he did not choose Ka priority, Ka band will not alert to a strong X or K band signal.
That's a good point. If you're giving priority to the strongest signal rather than Ka, I'm not sure how the Uniden handles that. But it's possible that the Ka signal might not be audibly reported (you could still see it on the "All threats" area if you have it turned on.
 

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I have X-band off on my R3 (and other detectors that I own), and when I did use mute memory/manual lockouts on my R3 (and it has happened on several Escorts with lockouts too) I have had my R3 stay silent on real police K-band when my R3 was locking out a K-band door opener on a particular stretch of road in my city with several K-band door openers. I would definitely think the R3 should have given you an audible alert to a different radar band in your scenario.


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Only if Ka priority is enabled. It will lockout a real K band radar if they are in the same frequency. That is why I never use lock outs. I use QR settings instead and it gives me better situational awareness.
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Hi All -I am running an R3 with v1.48.

If I pass a saved location for an X band alert, Mute Memory shows the R3 is detecting and muting the X band alert. I have noticed that if I am also picking up a K band signal at the same time, the detector remains silent and I do not receive any audible alerts for K band/Ka band.

I presume this is normal but I also don't run into this scenario often. Can anyone shed light on if this is actually what is happening? It does not make sense to me that the detector would mute a completely different signal than the one saved in Mute Memory when both are present. I still want to know that K or Ka band is being emitted around a known X-band false. X, K, and Ka are used in my area.

Thanks in advance!
BTW, you may want to update your FW to 1.50. Loving it so far.
 
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Thanks all. I updated to v1.50 yesterday More clarification for what I saw on v1.48:

Quiet ride was set to 25mph. I was traveling at 65mph.

This was a known X band location at a highway overpass. A Honda CR-V was 3 car lengths ahead. K band alerted as we approached the overpass. X band auto muted and the detector went silent. I don't remember seeing multi threat display K then (rush hour commute at 65mph). We passed the X band and the K alert came back.

No Ka in the area but my concern is I have an auto lock out at an overpass and a SHP is posted up on the on-ramp as I pass.

I will try to replicate it and see what happens.
 

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Today I was directly behind a Chrysler Pacifica spewing K-band and as we passed a Mute Memory stored X-band lockout, my R3 muted both signals.
  • Dead silence.
  • I did have a visual MUTE MEMORY indicator for X-band and nothing for K-band.
  • Ka Priority is on.
  • All Threats is on.
  • Quiet Ride is set to 25 and I was going 45.
  • My dashcam was running so you can see/hear the K-false before and after passing the X-lockout, but I can't upload the video until later tonight.
  • Video pending upload tonight when I am home.

The owners manual states:
MUTE MEMORY Save a Mute Location (Mute Memory) - press MUTE/DIM again while Mute On displays to save that GPS location and frequency to memory. Mute Memory displays on the screen
I called @UnidenSupport to confirm what I saw today. A very helpful rep explained that Mute Memory should only mute the frequency I intended it to per the owner's manual. I can have my R3 sent in to be tested for $81.95 (return shipping included).

Has anyone else seen this? Has this been tested by anyone with test equipment? It is incredibly difficult to find a BSM false while passing a stored lockout. While most of you do not run X-band (it is used in NC), what if this happens to a K-lockout with Ka nearby or a second K alert?

I've seen the R3 testing, but haven't seen any testing done on Mute Memory specifically. (TXCTG – Testing the New Uniden R3 (05-01-2017))


@Vortex @Jag42 @Brainstorm69 Have you tested Mute Memory on the Uniden R series to see if Mute Memory is working as we expect?

I saw Brainstorm69's response above, but wanted to ask again :)
 
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Today I was directly behind a Chrysler Pacifica spewing K-band and as we passed a Mute Memory stored X-band lockout, my R3 muted both signals.
  • Dead silence.
  • I did have a visual MUTE MEMORY indicator for X-band and nothing for K-band.
  • Ka Priority is on.
  • All Threats is on.
  • Quiet Ride is set to 25 and I was going 45.
  • My dashcam was running so you can see/hear the K-false before and after passing the X-lockout, but I can't upload the video until later tonight.
  • Video pending upload tonight when I am home.

The owners manual states:


I called @UnidenSupport to confirm what I saw today. A very helpful rep explained that Mute Memory should only mute the frequency I intended it to per the owner's manual. I can have my R3 sent in to be tested for $81.95 (return shipping included).

Has anyone else seen this? Has this been tested by anyone with test equipment? It is incredibly difficult to find a BSM false while passing a stored lockout. While most of you do not run X-band (it is used in NC), what if this happens to a K-lockout with Ka nearby or a second K alert?

I've seen the R3 testing, but haven't seen any testing done on Mute Memory specifically. (TXCTG – Testing the New Uniden R3 (05-01-2017))


@Vortex @Jag42 @Brainstorm69 Have you tested Mute Memory on the Uniden R series to see if Mute Memory is working as we expect?

I saw Brainstorm69's response above, but wanted to ask again :)
@Heywood did some testing with K-band lockouts and a second K-band signal:


I could test some of the other scenarios on the bench, but I just don't have time right now.
 
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Even though the R3 has the frequency cut off, it's not dependant on distance from the original lockout. It didn't matter if it was on city or highway. It did the best at picking up the Bushnell fairly quickly after the speed sign lockout, but it wouldn't give you an audible alert. You could see it ID the frequency of the Bushnell, but unless you were watching the display, you'd blindly drive right into the trap. Even when there was a break in the detection, the R3 continued to mute memory the 2nd signal that was never there during the original lockout of the speed sign

Here's the video of how it reacted.

City Mode.
It made no difference. Same as highway mode.
3 runs. No audible alerts

It's only one test so I would take that with a grain of salt. I encourage others to try it for themselves and share what you come up with. If you have any questions on the settings or anything, feel free to ask. These detectors are not my daily drivers, so the setting are going to stay the same for a while and I can easily look them up.

Heywood
This is very similar to what I saw except I only saw the Mute Memory frequency in X-band even though there was K-band directly in front of me.

Very disappointing. I may remove the auto lockouts altogether.

@UnidenSupport Is there a fix in the works for this?
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This is the scenario. You can clearly tell the Chrysler is emitting K-band (K24.198) until the signal cuts out completely at 45 seconds and comes back with a new audible alert.
 
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