LI's - Long in the Tooth, but still Relevant?

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We all know that LI is a dead platform with no future support or hardware.

My question is this:
LI's are more than capable of jamming PL3, PL4, and Ultralyte, among other guns. Have these guns received firmware updates in the past couple years that make the LI no longer able to jam these guns? I am not sure how often these companies update their gun firmware to prevent jamming on older hardware.

I also think it would be really cool if people could still make firmware updates for this hardware for gun firmware updates, as well as new guns, that don't use a form of VPR technology.
 

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I have a set on the rear of my car, they are good against older stuff. I tested them against a prolite, TruspeedS, and laser alley (fixed rate no eccm) and they did pretty good on those. Against stalker XLR they are iffy, sometimes they work, sometimes they alert but don't really jam, sometimes they won't alert at all as they were on thier way out as stalker XLR was coming into the picture so thier algo handles some but not all it seems. I will test them more in the winter against a bunch of guns. Truspeed LR may also be an issue and of course with dragoneye they don't alert at all. But against fixed rate stuff they seem to do well and we're a solid solution before VPR guns came along. Properly installed they should do ok as long as you don't have Stalkers (which are very common).
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8.20 is the latest firmware they have out and it's from about the 2016 timeframe... If you get a set for a couple hundred and only see older stuff then they should do ok for you, just know that if stalker or dragoneye come to your area then they may not be a solid solution anymore.
 
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8.21 is the latest firmware they have out and it's from about the 2016 timeframe...
8.21? Do you have that firmware file by chance? The latest I have is 8.20. If I could get it from you, I would really appreciate that!
 

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Sorry , you are correct 8.20 is the latest. I will edit my post to reflect that.
 

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Truspeed LR may also be an issue
Truspeed LR was jammed in the past but I don't know if they updated the algorithm like they did with Trucam II. Truspeed LR (EU with anti-jamming) and Trucam I are easily jammed. Trucam II is detected but I don't know if LI can jam it.

I believe that they could present an update for these guns but the question is: are they still in business? If yes then the LI X project is still under development or they simply sell the old jammer? And if they are still in business do they care about the old jammer or only for the new platform, if it's under development of course.
 

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Most of the older lidars are thrown in the trash when sent back for recalibration or repairs as parts are no longer being made for them and then replaced with new ones.When I spoke to cliff's assistant she couldn't give me a firm answer on his intentions of the new laser interceptor LIX coming soon. But she is a very nice person.I can give you clifford's number if you want to talk to him. The issue at hand is, it's not easy making a jammer that can handle variable pulse rate lidars in milliseconds, because the pulses are random. And even if you do jam it , you have to worry about jamming codes , patent infringement on blinder-escort,and the wave of legal issues.
 
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Most of the older lidars are thrown in the trash when sent back for recalibration or repairs as parts are no longer being made for them and then replaced with new ones.When I spoke to cliff's assistant she couldn't give me a firm answer on his intentions of the new laser interceptor LIX coming soon. But she is a very nice person.I can give you clifford's number if you want to talk to him. The issue at hand is, it's not easy making a jammer that can handle variable pulse rate lidars in milliseconds, because the pulses are random. And even if you do jam it , you have to worry about jamming codes , patent infringement on blinder-escort,and the wave of legal issues.

Thanks - I have Cliff's number, I just wasn't aware he was still involved with anything "LI" related. I thought he had moved on to Stinger.
 

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There are rumours about an update coming out but I don't have any information to share right now. I believe it could cover Trucam II, XLR etc. No timeline though...
 

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We all know that LI is a dead platform with no future support or hardware.

My question is this:
LI's are more than capable of jamming PL3, PL4, and Ultralyte, among other guns. Have these guns received firmware updates in the past couple years that make the LI no longer able to jam these guns? I am not sure how often these companies update their gun firmware to prevent jamming on older hardware.

I also think it would be really cool if people could still make firmware updates for this hardware for gun firmware updates, as well as new guns, that don't use a form of VPR technology.
LI was awesome to me when I had them on my car. Even with no real updates after 2014 useful updates anyways, mine were always solid against all the guns except the new stalkers and dragon of course guns...
In 2016, My quad was JTG against truspeed sx(or whatever the new truspeed was at time) and jams all guns except new stalkers, dragon, etc. LI saved me alot of money and 0 tickets over years and jammers still working.
Only due to new threats where I live, I went and purchased TMG replacing the LI heads. So far in testing TMG far superior and meets all my vpr gun needs! Not to mention their cpu and b/t updates is awesome.
If your unit and heads are working and older guns used in your area, laser interceptor will be fine....just test to make sure everythings working. But after 6 years my quad heads were still jamming no problem.
But if you want that top of line jammer theres only 2 that I know of TMG and ALP.
Im saving up trying to get my rears from TMG while they have a sale this month. (or just charge it lol) Now that new heads out as well is really cool to know and cant wait to test.
But in their day laser interceptor was awesome. My final jam before removing to TMG 2 months ago was against port st. lucie police using an old ultralyte 20/20 in may 2019.....JTK I was going 20 over and had time to slow down and kill no problem so yes they are very relevent just test to make sure!
 

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Have LI installed on BMW Motorcycle. 1 head front, 1 head rear. What I would like to know is if it can handle the Tru Cam 1. Looking at LT web site, is says the Tru Cam II is not for USA. They are also showing a gun TruVISION which appears to replace the Tru Cam ! for USA use. Have ALP installed in my 4 wheel cage, It ID's the local Tru Cam as (Tru Speed or Tru Cam). Encounter the local Tru Cams 2 to 3 times a week. Guess at some point, if I get the $120 ticket in the mail I will find out. Local OSP still using Ultrlights and TruSpeed. LI has worked fine so far. Location North West Ohio
 

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Have LI installed on BMW Motorcycle. 1 head front, 1 head rear. What I would like to know is if it can handle the Tru Cam 1. Looking at LT web site, is says the Tru Cam II is not for USA. They are also showing a gun TruVISION which appears to replace the Tru Cam ! for USA use. Have ALP installed in my 4 wheel cage, It ID's the local Tru Cam as (Tru Speed or Tru Cam). Encounter the local Tru Cams 2 to 3 times a week. Guess at some point, if I get the $120 ticket in the mail I will find out. Local OSP still using Ultrlights and TruSpeed. LI has worked fine so far. Location North West Ohio
I believe li covers trucam and truspeed LR... I will test with a truspeed LR on MY LIs this winter if I can and see if they work against it.
 

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Have LI installed on BMW Motorcycle. 1 head front, 1 head rear. What I would like to know is if it can handle the Tru Cam 1. Looking at LT web site, is says the Tru Cam II is not for USA. They are also showing a gun TruVISION which appears to replace the Tru Cam ! for USA use. Have ALP installed in my 4 wheel cage, It ID's the local Tru Cam as (Tru Speed or Tru Cam). Encounter the local Tru Cams 2 to 3 times a week. Guess at some point, if I get the $120 ticket in the mail I will find out. Local OSP still using Ultrlights and TruSpeed. LI has worked fine so far. Location North West Ohio
Trucam II is detected but not jammed with LI. A new firmware will address this problem. In USA you don't have a problem since this fun is used in Europe, Africa etc.
 

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We all know that LI is a dead platform with no future support or hardware.

My question is this:
LI's are more than capable of jamming PL3, PL4, and Ultralyte, among other guns. Have these guns received firmware updates in the past couple years that make the LI no longer able to jam these guns? I am not sure how often these companies update their gun firmware to prevent jamming on older hardware.

I also think it would be really cool if people could still make firmware updates for this hardware for gun firmware updates, as well as new guns, that don't use a form of VPR technology.
Welcome back olde timer, havn't seen you active for the last couple of years.

If you're still in Ohio the LI's will not protect you at all from the several Towns/Cities that are now using DragonEye Lidars !
There are also a handful of Stalker XLRs versions that they will not alert to either, not to mention the "Sun" interference issue that cause the LI transponders to go blind, too.

Best to upgrade to ALP today. TMG could be another choice once they 100% conquer the Dragoneye guns.
 

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