Is anyone with a V1 seeing Honda BSM at 24.160?

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No need to talk dismissively to me. I troubleshoot equipment for a living. :) Being aware of, and controlling, the variables is what I do.

I agree on the dashcam, and I'm not conclusively stating my experiences as fact yet, but there were no other offending cars on this scenic route at the time. There were only 2 other cars in visual range.
This isn't the only suitable Pilot I've encountered recently as I'm often in these tourist areas and there are a lot of new cars around me as I drive. As I'd said before, I was trying to find a situation where I could definitely rule out other vehicles and commercial sources and this was a pretty good situation. There were no stores for many miles and barely another car on the road. You can see that instead of passing this Pilot, I slowed as I turned off TMF2 so that I'd stay behind it.

Of the two of us, which one might have a more comfortable familiarity with the V1?
I mean no disrespect here at all, but it's possible that I've logged more seat time with my V1 in a week or two than you have in total.
(2,500 miles in two weeks)

I saw in your own video that you didn't get a signal until you got close to the Pilot. I think there's something to that.
I suspect that it could be that they are going to an older style BSM device. Perhaps they are having issues with the 24.200 equipment or it's simply a cost thing. A change in frequency means they are using something that is different in some way.
There's no reason that TMF2 couldn't have an effect on the older style 24.160 while it's less effective on the 24.200 newer style that TMF2 hadn't been configured for when it was released.
Does TMF2 perfectly eliminate every 24.160 Honda Pilot signal? According to your video, no. But I'm not seeing 24.160 from Honda Pilots which is where this investigative thread started.

And, as I've noted quite a few times, the older BSM systems on semis almost never alert me at all; but turn off TMF2 and there's BSM coming off of at least half of the semis I drive by. TMF2 clearly has those systems handled. (I can go weeks without a hit from a semi.)

I think we should continue to test this issue. I'd love to see some other V1 users test this. I've never failed to acknowledge the truth when we've found out for sure what it is and I will be honest with what I find in this case as well.

The test conditions are simple:
Get behind a new Honda Pilot with the clear turn signals and no camera on the passenger side mirror.
Look for badging on the Pilot. Look for stores nearby, look for other vehicles that put out K-band.
Note whether you are getting a signal or not.
Turn off TMF2 in JBV1. (Where signals are also logged.)
Note the changes in signals.
 

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No need to talk dismissively to me. I troubleshoot equipment for a living. :) Being aware of, and controlling, the variables is what I do.

I agree on the dashcam, and I'm not conclusively stating my experiences as fact yet, but there were no other offending cars on this scenic route at the time. There were only 2 other cars in visual range.
This isn't the only suitable Pilot I've encountered recently as I'm often in these tourist areas and there are a lot of new cars around me as I drive. As I'd said before, I was trying to find a situation where I could definitely rule out other vehicles and commercial sources and this was a pretty good situation. There were no stores for many miles and barely another car on the road. You can see that instead of passing this Pilot, I slowed as I turned off TMF2 so that I'd stay behind it.

Of the two of us, which one might have a more comfortable familiarity with the V1?
I mean no disrespect here at all, but it's possible that I've logged more seat time with my V1 in a week or two than you have in total.
(2,500 miles in two weeks)

I saw in your own video that you didn't get a signal until you got close to the Pilot. I think there's something to that.
I suspect that it could be that they are going to an older style BSM device. Perhaps they are having issues with the 24.200 equipment or it's simply a cost thing. A change in frequency means they are using something that is different in some way.
There's no reason that TMF2 couldn't have an effect on the older style 24.160 while it's less effective on the 24.200 newer style that TMF2 hadn't been configured for when it was released.
Does TMF2 perfectly eliminate every 24.160 Honda Pilot signal? According to your video, no. But I'm not seeing 24.160 from Honda Pilots which is where this investigative thread started.

And, as I've noted quite a few times, the older BSM systems on semis almost never alert me at all; but turn off TMF2 and there's BSM coming off of at least half of the semis I drive by. TMF2 clearly has those systems handled. (I can go weeks without a hit from a semi.)

I think we should continue to test this issue. I'd love to see some other V1 users test this. I've never failed to acknowledge the truth when we've found out for sure what it is and I will be honest with what I find in this case as well.

The test conditions are simple:
Get behind a new Honda Pilot with the clear turn signals and no camera on the passenger side mirror.
Look for badging on the Pilot. Look for stores nearby, look for other vehicles that put out K-band.
Note whether you are getting a signal or not.
Turn off TMF2 in JBV1. (Where signals are also logged.)
Note the changes in signals.
I'm not trying to be dismissive, but I am saying your experience does not jive with mine. So I have a hard time agreeing with it. And that's what I'm stating. Didn't say you are wrong. Said my experience has been different, and posted both video and JBV1 evidence to the contrary.
 

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I'm not trying to be dismissive, but I am saying your experience does not jive with mine. So I have a hard time agreeing with it.
Since writing that above, I have encountered a Pilot that did alert me about an hour ago. I'm still out and about so I'll post more later. We are in agreement and maybe it's a case of distance. More testing should resolve that possibility. :)
 

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Saw 24.160 on my redline ex last week, so it's confirmed Honda bsm.
 

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