R1/R3 v1.50 Firmware Released

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The K Block filter is nice, but for those like me who live where LEO utilize K band, there is an inherent risk of potentially missing a true alert. A middle ground to know that an alert in the K Block range is being received could prove useful to those who value situational awareness. It would be nice to at least be able to view the signal strength.

The K block feature could produce a single chirp, followed by muting only the K block range when a signal is received. This could also be accompanied with the display showing the muted frequency and the display lighting up if in dark mode.
I don't think this is true. The K block feature does not give you any chirp at all or show any frequency. The display is totally blank even in dark mode. You may have been confused maybe with quiet ride feature. The K block frequency is from 24.194 to 24.204.
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I'm loving 1.50. But what's with all the 2.168 false alerts now?!
I see that on newer Acura MDX, some Jeeps, Pacifica's and Mazda's.
 
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I read it as a suggestion that Pumanator was making for better situational awareness. Perhaps he'll clarify.
 

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I upgraded from 1.48 to 1.50 and enabled K Block it really didn’t do much if anything for me under many different settings. That’s just my experience my unit was chatty, not to mention it had very poor performance out of the box and after some testing and tuning. I sent it back to Amazon I’m glad to hear some people are having improvements over 1.48.
Does block Honda's except the newer MDX and some have mentioned the newer Pilot's.
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I read it as a suggestion that Pumanator was making for better situational awareness. Perhaps he'll clarify.
Gotcha.
 

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I wonder if the Honda K block is working well enough that users are now more aware of the 24.160-24.168 signals they always had or if there's a flaw and now they are being reported as 24.160, etc.
Too bad there are no logging features to look back at.
 

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I wonder if the Honda K block is working well enough that users are now more aware of the 24.160-24.168 signals they always had or if there's a flaw and now they are being reported as 24.160, etc.
Too bad there are no logging features to look back at.
While I was on the 1.37, I was already seeing these frequencies in the 24.160's range specially Mazda's, Jeeps and Pacifica's. So I was not not that surprised. After using the 1.50 FW, I did not go back to 1.37 because to me and my experience, it was quieter overall because we have more Honda's than the other ones. This can also be dependent in areas where they have more Jeeps, Mazda's and Pacifica's than Honda's.
 

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Yea, I was also thinking that the 24.168's may have always been there but less frequently than 24.2xx But when I get the 24.16x (ish) falses, I'm not seeing ANY cars near by! I do think some of the smaller Jeeps (Cherokee), Mazda's and Pacifica's may be causing falses, but where are they? Cloak mode?
 

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The K Block filter is nice, but for those like me who live where LEO utilize K band, there is an inherent risk of potentially missing a true alert. A middle ground to know that an alert in the K Block range is being received could prove useful to those who value situational awareness. It would be nice to at least be able to view the signal strength.

The K block feature could produce a single chirp, followed by muting only the K block range when a signal is received. This could also be accompanied with the display showing the muted frequency and the display lighting up if in dark mode.
@UnidenSupport , love this
 

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@KnightHawk @BlueV1 Yes, making a suggestion @UnidenSupport :)

In my town, LEOs use Ka and K band. Having more situational awareness while cutting down on having to manually mute in the 24.195 to 24.205 would be a step forward in the war against Acura BSMs for me personally. I haven't confirmed what K segments the radar here operates in yet.
 

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Yea, I was also thinking that the 24.168's may have always been there but less frequently than 24.2xx But when I get the 24.16x (ish) falses, I'm not seeing ANY cars near by! I do think some of the smaller Jeeps (Cherokee), Mazda's and Pacifica's may be causing falses, but where are they? Cloak mode?
Look for some Buicks and Cadillac SUV's too.
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@KnightHawk @BlueV1 Yes, making a suggestion @UnidenSupport :)

In my town, LEOs use Ka and K band. Having more situational awareness while cutting down on having to manually mute in the 24.195 to 24.205 would be a step forward in the war against Acura BSMs for me personally. I haven't confirmed what K segments the radar here operates in yet.
I work in K band country too local PD and Sheriff. No problem so far with K block frequencies. But not a bad suggestion.
 
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I wonder if the Honda K block is working well enough that users are now more aware of the 24.160-24.168 signals they always had or if there's a flaw and now they are being reported as 24.160, etc.
Too bad there are no logging features to look back at.
I suspect that may be the case.

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I flashed to 1.50... Will be giving it a workout over the coming weeks in Florida. I'll leave K Block off initially since the RDFGS spreadsheet shows K is used there. I know for a fact that the LEO's in my hometown use it.
 

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I flashed to 1.50... Will be giving it a workout over the coming weeks in Florida. I'll leave K Block off initially since the RDFGS spreadsheet shows K is used there. I know for a fact that the LEO's in my hometown use it.
Better safe than sorry. But you are missing out on one of the main advantages of 1.50 if you aren't using K Block. Have you ever seen a legit K-band signal in the 24.194 to 24.204 range in your area?
 

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Better safe than sorry. But you are missing out on one of the main advantages of 1.50 if you aren't using K Block. Have you ever seen a legit K-band signal in the 24.194 to 24.204 range in your area?
Honestly, there's a single municipality near me that has one Explorer with a Genesis I that transmits at 24.196. K Block is so good that I take the chance and just slow down while traveling through that town while running K Block ON. Now, I rarely travel through that town anyways, but K Block makes such a world of difference that I'd rather take that risk. YMMV
 

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Have you ever seen a legit K-band signal in the 24.194 to 24.204 range in your area?
Pretty sure the answer is yes. I'll pay more attention now though but K band is prevalent in a small city I travel through daily.
 

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It does make things tougher, but here's something to consider:
All of these 24.200+/- LEO guns are new to me in the last year or so.
For example, Those users in Morristown, TN that are complacent in the belief that K-band doesn't go that high there are now totally unaware that there's an unmarked black charger running 24.198 since at least March.
People have to make a effort to be aware of the new K-band equipment but it's easier for many just to believe that it doesn't affect them. :(
 

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There are so many agencies that don't calibrate there units and a LEO friend told me that. He used to be a member at RD.net.
 

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Honestly, there's a single municipality near me that has one Explorer with a Genesis I that transmits at 24.196. K Block is so good that I take the chance and just slow down while traveling through that town while running K Block ON. Now, I rarely travel through that town anyways, but K Block makes such a world of difference that I'd rather take that risk. YMMV
You know your drive, your terrain, and most importantly you know your enemy. That is better than 95% of the members here do, and 100% better than relying on a device alone.

When I get a new detector, I run full out highway mode with no "narrow" or "block" features until I am very reasonably sure of my surroundings and threats. This is somewhere between 3-6 months. No detector gets a free pass on this, unless it's a unit I've already owned and know. I HAVE to know I'm getting accurate data from it and reliable functionality before I start adding specific filtering.

It's also why I hate buying a new detector, as I have to build up a rapport and trust with each new one. It takes a lot of time, but I believe being thorough and informed tips the odds more in my favor than flying by the seat of my pants.
 

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Honestly, there's a single municipality near me that has one Explorer with a Genesis I that transmits at 24.196. K Block is so good that I take the chance and just slow down while traveling through that town while running K Block ON. Now, I rarely travel through that town anyways, but K Block makes such a world of difference that I'd rather take that risk. YMMV
If a detector's solution to "filtering" is so bad it relegates you to driving PSL, that's unacceptable IMO. I'm glad @Vortex pointed out this was a "stupid hack" in his last video, and hope this means Uniden is actively working on another solution and just provided this as a stop-gap solution.

I can see why a detector would alert initially to these BSMs, as the initial alert looks like CW K band. However, averaged over a few seconds, the detector can clearly see the frequency modulation in the BSM signal, as the frequency "jumps around" during a false. For example. the last one I saw varied between 24.198 and 24.207 GHz. Given this, shouldn't it be possible to combine a short time mute on K band (eg 3 seconds before the detector audibly alerts) with the detector monitoring for changes in frequency during this time? The detector could even be made to focus the K band sweep on this range for a few hundred milliseconds after the initial alert to confirm it is a modulated signal and keep the alert silenced. This sort of focused sweep should be able to identify pulse or chirp modulated BSM signals as well.

Can anyone think of a reason this wouldn't work?
 

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