Question about Custom Sweeps

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Hey guys been looking into doing custom sweeps for my V1. Was just going to use the presets that are available. Will this quite the detector down without risking actually missing a real cop? I do a lot of cross country driving so encounter all kinds of detectors and lasers, so want to make sure running custom sweeps will only filter out the falses.

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What phone OS and APP are you going to use? Customer Sweeps does not increase the range, only the potential response time it can provide. If Android, JBV1 is good to use as the default setup, but if you know your areas you are driving in, setup a few specifics to provide better alert timing when the V1 is able to see and report. In-addition with JBV1, can open the information to other alert packages within the App... like ties to vvazes and other Vascar reporting, plus BSMs quieting it can assist with in K band world.
 

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Also, with JBV1 you can set up profiles that change at the borders of states, counties, cities, etc. which allows you to run different settings and/or sweeps for different areas.

As far as what to start with I have two that I use for most of the places I drive. Attached below.
I have to split my segment 5 frequencies at 34.770 to 34.774 but if your V1 is 3.8952 or higher, that's not necessary.

@imaitguy, can you link to your chart for this new guy?
 

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Customer Sweeps does not increase the range, only the potential response time it can provide.
Well, if he’s currently running a stock setup, then custom sweeps will both turn off Ka Guard and define the frequency chunks the V1 should look for. That will increase his range over a stock A/L/l setup. But he didn’t say anything about range, only about quieting down the detector.

@michaelalex17 what version of the V1 do you have now, and how do you run it? Also, what kind of stuff are you trying to quiet down? K-band falses, or something else?

We need to know what your current configuration is and what you’re trying to accomplish in order to offer any advice. Otherwise you’ll just get the typical answers that may help but may not be what you’re actually looking for.

If you have a fairly current model, then adding a V1connection LE (aka Bluetooth LE dongle or BTLE for short) will open up a whole new world to you if you don’t already have it, since it then allows you to leverage the massive processing power of modern smartphones with apps like V1Driver and JBV1 to help control the detector. You can run them in the foreground or just let them do their thing in the background and never look at them.

They offer automatic lockouts (meaning if you drive past a store with automatic door openers a few times they will learn the frequency and location and automatically mute that signal when you drive past it from then on). They will also allow you to do things like define custom K-band ranges you want to mute, such as if you have problems with a certain type of vehicle BSM causing the detector to alert (like ~24.196 to 24.202 for Honda/Acura), so you can tell it to mute those signals since the odds of being a legitimate traffic radar source are very low. And if you’ve never used an app like that before, you generally don’t know what the specific frequency is, but the apps will let you know that if you want, which allows you to understand better what’s going on around you and familiarize you with what sort of threats you run into on your travels.

We don’t know where or how you drive, but if you’re generally happy with the range of the V1 in a stock configuration, you don’t need to turn off Ka Guard or move to custom sweeps. Ka Guard inspects new Ka signals to make sure it’s not just a false from a leaky detector like a lot of common Cobras, so that it’s not alerting you unnecessarily. But that takes just a tiny bit of time to do, which can delay its alerting to real sources, which means its effective “range” is reduced. Turning off Ka Guard means it alerts first and analyzes the signal later, giving you the earliest possible alert every time, so you know about a threat farther ahead. The only real downside to it is that you may get an occasional false alert from someone else’s cheap-o detector on the road next to you (usually reported at 33.6 to 33.8). But with an app you’ll get to know exactly what frequency it’s detecting (it can display it on your phone or speak it out aloud via your phone, including over your car stereo if you’re steaming Bluetooth audio), which lets you know what’s up. As you get more familiar, you can start tweaking things to quiet down falses you might not have even realized were falses before.

Custom sweeps makes a small difference in range, but the real major difference is disabling Ka Guard. And to run custom sweeps Ka Guard gets disabled by default, so if someone sets up custom sweeps then they get the longest possible range of alerts. But the downside is that to do custom sweeps you have to set the V1 into Euro mode, which also has side effects like forcing ~33.8 scans even if you don’t want them and also widening out the K-band scan range larger than typically required in the US, which means it opens you up to getting more false alerts. In this case, like most of life, nothing is “free” but the apps help mitigate some of the “costs” for you.

So if you’re generally happy with the current range, and you have a fairly recent version of the V1 but no BTLE yet, then I would suggest ordering one from VR and letting V1Driver (Android, iOS) or JBV1 (Android only) run on your phone for a bit so you can get familiar with how they help. At that point you can decide if you want to leave the detector like it is (and just let the apps help quiet it down), or leave it but disable Ka Guard for improved range, or switch to custom sweeps. You HAVE to have the BTLE to set sweeps (or borrow one temporarily from someone), since it’s only available to do via an app over the Bluetooth connection, not programmable via the knob.

 
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Wow thank you all for the really quick responses. So I have the latest V1 firmware and have the Bluetooth dongle and just got an android so was going to try to use YaV1. Vortex radar made a video I was watching where he said if you download the app there are presets for 33.8, 34.7, and 35.5. I don’t really know what this means lol I just want to quite the V1 down without risking missing any potential frequencies that police actually use. I want to set it and forget it so want a broad range of frequencies, just want to shut it up around town and from cruise control/blind spot frequencies. I don’t even really care about extending the range, I just want to make it only go off from real threats. Let me know if the presets mentioned above risk missing and real police radar frequencies. Thanks!
 
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Wow thank you all for the really quick responses. So I have the latest V1 firmware and have the Bluetooth dongle and just got an android so was going to try to use YaV1. Vortex radar made a video I was watching where he said if you download the app there are presets for 33.8, 34.7, and 35.5. I don’t really know what this means lol I just want to quite the V1 down without risking missing any potential frequencies that police actually use. I want to set it and forget it so want a broad range of frequencies, just want to shut it up around town and from cruise control/blind spot frequencies. I don’t even really care about extending the range, I just want to make it only go off from real threats. Let me know if the presets mentioned above risk missing and real police radar frequencies. Thanks!
JBV1 has really replaced YaV1.
@johnboy00 is a member and he codes/maintains that software and he's awesome. He updates frequently. I would check out the posts on JBV1. Just my quick 2 cents.
 

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Will take a look at that, thank you. Does this app also have pre set custom sweeps? Still the same question though. Will 33.8, 34.7, and 35.5 cover all real threats? The android I got isn’t connected to cellular so don’t plan on running this every time I’m driving. Just want to setup the custom sweeps and not worry about it again. Thanks!
 

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For the US, yes, those will cover the vast majority of Ka threats. If you have a BTLE, then leave your detector config alone and just let one of the apps log your alerts for a while. Then you can go back and see what all frequencies you’ve encountered.
 

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Adding custom sweeps consists of typing in values OR selecting segments that you want. Typically segments 2-5-8.

For the latest V1, this consists of selecting segments 5 & 8 (Segment 2 is already enabled for POP)

Quite a few people don't see the simplicity of all of this. They are just numbers on a number line. In simple terms, If you want to receive signals for 35.5 you set to 35.500 + and - 100MHz = 35.400 to 35.600. The V1 will change those values to match what it likes to see so you end up with 35.379 to 35.612.

To elaborate,
33.8 = 33.800 +/- 100 = 33.700 to 33.900 which is already enabled in Custom Sweep mode on a V1
34.7 = 34.700 +/- 100 = 34.600 to 34.800 which turns into 34.587 to 34.802 on my V1
35.5 = 35.500 +/- 100 = 35.400 to 35.600 which turns into 35.379 to 35.612 on my V1

If you want to add segment 4 you only have to add that amount to the existing numbers or you can define it separately.
Segment 4 & 5 would be either:
34.191 to 34.586 for segment 4 and 34.587 to 34.802 for segment 5
OR
34.191 to 34.802 for segments 4 and 5 together.
Segments 4, 5, and 6 could be as simple as 34.191 to 35.162.

The only "magic" to custom sweeps is knowing what you need in your area. It's just an number line. :)
 

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For the US, yes, those will cover the vast majority of Ka threats. If you have a BTLE, then leave your detector config alone and just let one of the apps log your alerts for a while. Then you can go back and see what all frequencies you’ve encountered.
ok next dumb question, you said this will cover the majority of KA frequencies. what about X and K band, is there a way to quite those frequencies down? Thank you
 
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Dont worry about X band. Turn it off. Old tech. Not used except in some small towns that look like its 19th century. I have it off for 3 yrs now.
 

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ok next dumb question, you said this will cover the majority of KA frequencies. what about X and K band, is there a way to quite those frequencies down? Thank you
Dont worry about X band. Turn it off. Old tech. Not used except in some small towns that look like its 19th century. I have it off for 3 yrs now.
This is bad advice unless you know where the person lives. X-band is still alive and well in Ohio and NJ, along with the "19th century towns" you mentioned.
 

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ok next dumb question, you said this will cover the majority of KA frequencies. what about X and K band, is there a way to quite those frequencies down? Thank you
Custom sweeps do not quiet down your V1. That’s not really the point of them, which is longer Ka alert range. But with the BTLE dongle the apps (V1Driver, JBV1) absolutely will help quiet down your detector on K and on X. They do it a few different ways, but for most people the major way is to automatically learn where the stationary sources of false alerts are, like automatic door openers and speed signs and such, and once they’ve learned the frequency range and location, they’ll automatically mute that signal for you when they encounter it. So while it’ll still exist an alert, it’ll be muted if it’s recognized as that known false.

They can also automatically mute alerts for you in certain frequency ranges if you decide to create “mute boxes” to mute everything that falls in a certain range, such as extreme ends of the spectrum that aren’t used by traffic enforcement in your area and some narrow ranges that are almost always triggered by some auto manufacturers’ BSM systems. But without the BTLE and apps you won’t get a good idea of the frequencies in use around you yet, so it’s best to wait to implement some of that stuff until you have a few weeks of data under your belt and get a solid understanding of what frequencies are actually used where you drive.
 

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This is bad advice unless you know where the person lives. X-band is still alive and well in Ohio and NJ, along with the "19th century towns" you mentioned.
Yes, quite right. With JBV1 he could set up auto profiles to cope with that if he came across it.
 

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Yes, quite right. With JBV1 he could set up auto profiles to cope with that if he came across it.
I have areas where JBV1 turns on X-band for me as I cross state or county boundaries. (And turns it off again as I leave) It's another great feature that I often forget about.
 

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Custom sweeps do not quiet down your V1. That’s not really the point of them, which is longer Ka alert range. But with the BTLE dongle the apps (V1Driver, JBV1) absolutely will help quiet down your detector on K and on X. They do it a few different ways, but for most people the major way is to automatically learn where the stationary sources of false alerts are, like automatic door openers and speed signs and such, and once they’ve learned the frequency range and location, they’ll automatically mute that signal for you when they encounter it. So while it’ll still exist an alert, it’ll be muted if it’s recognized as that known false.

They can also automatically mute alerts for you in certain frequency ranges if you decide to create “mute boxes” to mute everything that falls in a certain range, such as extreme ends of the spectrum that aren’t used by traffic enforcement in your area and some narrow ranges that are almost always triggered by some auto manufacturers’ BSM systems. But without the BTLE and apps you won’t get a good idea of the frequencies in use around you yet, so it’s best to wait to implement some of that stuff until you have a few weeks of data under your belt and get a solid understanding of what frequencies are actually used where you drive.

Thank you this is great info. Used to use an app called stealth assist that doesn’t seem to exist anymore that would auto mute under a speed threshold that I set without needing to purchase SAVVY. Can I do this in V1 driver?

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Used to use an app called stealth assist that doesn’t seem to exist anymore that would auto mute under a speed threshold that I set without needing to purchase SAVVY. Can I do this in V1 driver?
Yes, all of the current V1 apps offer SAVVY emulation via GPS (and much more!)
V1Driver - iOS and Android
JBV1 - Android
YaV1 - Android (no longer being actively developed AFAIK)
 

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