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So I bought a $5 BT button on Amazon, the kind for taking selfie pics when your phone is at the end of a selfie stick or on a tripod, thinking I could use it for a remote JTK (TMG) or mute (V1). The button is recognized as a keyboard, however, and you can't get keyboard events when your app isn't in the foreground. When the app IS in the foreground, it's far easier to tap anywhere on the device screen (JTK) or find and press a much larger on-screen button (mute) than to find and press a little plastic button somewhere else, so this BT button isn't very useful. Are there any BT buttons that aren't automatically recognized as keyboards or media buttons, that the app could connect to directly and receive events while in the background? I haven't found any yet.
 

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That's unfortunate, but thanks for trying. I wonder if anyone has ever tried using the Flic button with TMG or JBV1. I recall reading ALP has Flic compatibility.
 

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Hmm, flic button... That might be the right way to go.
 

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$30 seems pretty steep for a button. I guess that pays for the app, too, which I don't need. Maybe I can find a cheap knock-off.
 

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Didn’t @Vortex post some info on a BT button that worked? Maybe it was system specific to ALP.
 

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My experience with bluetooth buttons isn't very good. Most enter a "sleep" state and have to be woken up again.
 

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My experience with bluetooth buttons isn't very good. Most enter a "sleep" state and have to be woken up again.
Hmm, that would definitely eliminate most of the convenience of having the button in the first place.
 

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I use the flic for ALPConnect on android. Works great muting the NR, and JTK. Installed on the back of my steering wheel for easy fingertip access.. Have not had issues with it.... Made the app use much easier!
 

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Hmm, that would definitely eliminate most of the convenience of having the button in the first place.
Agreed. If it’s for something low priority, it could work. You may have to press it initially to wake it up and re-pair it and then it’ll work well.

I don’t like that for critical stuff like JTK’ing with the ALP, but for something more secondary it could work.
 

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@johnboy00 Idea: could you hardwire the button into the phone's data/power jack so that you alleviate 1. Power issues with a possible dead battery and 2. reaction time of the button being hardwired vs. BT and avoid any wake up issues. You could run a single wire across the steeling wheel and mount it for fast access like @thanks.
 

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@johnboy00 Idea: could you hardwire the button into the phone's data/power jack so that you alleviate 1. Power issues with a possible dead battery and 2. reaction time of the button being hardwired vs. BT and avoid any wake up issues. You could run a single wire across the steeling wheel and mount it for fast access like @thanks.
Wired would certainly be lower latency, but I don't want to get into configurations that would complicate (or eliminate) the ability to run Android Auto and/or charge your phone at the same time.
 

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I doubt it exists, but it sounds like the ideal would be a button that can be hardwired to power, so that while being powered (vehicle running) it doesn’t go to sleep. Install anywhere, but doesn’t need to be connected to any other device other than a generic USB (or native 12V) power source. And interact with background apps, of course. :)

Like I said, I haven’t seen anything like that. If someone knows of one, that would be awesome.
 

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I mean, parts are really cheap nowadays and if you really want a bt button, we can design one with ble for super cheap and set it up to work however you want.

I have plenty of experience with that kind of stuff so if that's something you want to pursue, we can talk a bit more about it.
 

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There was someone that came up with a way to tap onto existing buttons on the steering wheel. Think two rapid taps went to the detector as a mute? Normal tap car performs ‘normal’ design function. ??
Was awhile ago that it was posted.
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I mean, parts are really cheap nowadays and if you really want a bt button, we can design one with ble for super cheap and set it up to work however you want.

I have plenty of experience with that kind of stuff so if that's something you want to pursue, we can talk a bit more about it.
I don't really want a BT button. I just thought if a really cheap one (OTS) could be made to work quite easily from an app perspective, why not support it. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
 

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I don't really want a BT button. I just thought if a really cheap one (OTS) could be made to work quite easily from an app perspective, why not support it. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
What would really be slick would be somehow integrating the automatic garage door opener buttons (HomeLink) to trigger the desired CM. I'm sure there's a way, but probably too many hops using it natively to get back to the phone.

Speaking of all that, had you ever considered a Tasker plugin for JBV1? I don't have a particular use case in mind right now, but I bet there are tons out there... like sending a text to your lawyer when you get an I/O hit >8 and your velocity is >40 over PSL? :p

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