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Wanted to share some results from one location, specifically the one now set up at 64th and 152 st in Surrey. The camera is set up on the North East side of the intersection pointing West. I was parked on the South West side for this video.

My R7 would only alert to it when I pointed the detector directly at it (in this case from across the street). The two times I drove by normally, I got no alert from it.

I was getting both K-Band 24.062, and MRCD 24.054. Not sure if this speed camera is just supposed to be MRCD, or just K-Band and the detector is getting confused thinking it's MRCD?
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Speed Camera ON
Red Light Camera ON
X Band ON
K Band ON
K POP ON
MRCD ON
K Filter OFF
TSF OFF
K Block OFF
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I havent gotten a single chirp outta the R1. im still on 1.37fw so i might get the MRCD update and try again.
 

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Unidens can’t decipher MRCD from MRCT or Redflex. Everything to them shows up as MRCD.

Almost all of the Redlight camera’s will either be MRCT, Redflex or Gatso if they’re not normal K band.

The power is very low and the beam is very narrow.

More than likely it’s MRCT.
 

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Unidens can’t decipher MRCD from MRCT or Redflex. Everything to them shows up as MRCD.

Almost all of the Redlight camera’s will either be MRCT, Redflex or Gatso if they’re not normal K band.

The power is very low and the beam is very narrow.

More than likely it’s MRCT.
Interesting, I've never got and MRCD pickups from redlight/speed cameras, but then again I thought they only shot after a vehicle travelled so many pixels on camera given a certain time frame? Is that just heresay or that an actual fact?
 

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Interesting, I've never got and MRCD pickups from redlight/speed cameras, but then again I thought they only shot after a vehicle travelled so many pixels on camera given a certain time frame? Is that just heresay or that an actual fact?
Hearsay.
They actually use different types of radar and different power outputs.

There are some that do use embedded sensors in the road as well. Sherwood Park Alberta Canada on Baseline Road uses this type of system. These are far and few between, but do exist.

The MRCD units are extremely expensive. I have yet to see MRCD used in a red light camera. Mostly used exclusively in mobile
Photo radar units.

MRCD uses 4 different frequencies. Very low powered and a very narrow beam
Pattern.

MRCT and Redflex are cheaper and primarily used for Redlight cameras. The beam is a bit wider. Even heading towards it in the opposite direction doesn’t guarantee you’ll pick it up. It’s a little easier to read, but being high up, focused on the intersections, and reading from behind makes it hard to detect.

The Mesta Fusion is K band, but multiple frequencies shifting extremely fast. Faster than all the detectors in the market can figure out. The detector is guessing. It can also scan for different infractions such as illegal left hand turns, Speed on green, red light running, and a few other things. More frequencies than the 4 MRCD uses.

It’s easier for the detectors to catch if there are other vehicles ahead of you.
 

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Hearsay.
They actually use different types of radar and different power outputs.

There are some that do use embedded sensors in the road as well. Sherwood Park Alberta Canada on Baseline Road uses this type of system. These are far and few between, but do exist.

The MRCD units are extremely expensive. I have yet to see MRCD used in a red light camera. Mostly used exclusively in mobile
Photo radar units.

MRCD uses 4 different frequencies. Very low powered and a very narrow beam
Pattern.

MRCT and Redflex are cheaper and primarily used for Redlight cameras. The beam is a bit wider. Even heading towards it in the opposite direction doesn’t guarantee you’ll pick it up. It’s a little easier to read, but being high up, focused on the intersections, and reading from behind makes it hard to detect.

The Mesta Fusion is K band, but multiple frequencies shifting extremely fast. Faster than all the detectors in the market can figure out. The detector is guessing. It can also scan for different infractions such as illegal left hand turns, Speed on green, red light running, and a few other things. More frequencies than the 4 MRCD uses.

It’s easier for the detectors to catch if there are other vehicles ahead of you.
Thank you for the explanation. I usually slow down for most intersections as it is for safety, but because majority of intersections now have it where I am from. Running out of mental note space for all the cams!

Are these types of cams always shooting on every vehicle through the intersection? Interesting setups for sure. (Sorry for the somewhat hijack)
 

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There are some that do use embedded sensors in the road as well. Sherwood Park Alberta Canada on Baseline Road uses this type of system. These are far and few between, but do exist.
Just a heads up, they also exist here in YWG, in case anyone is visiting (this is the Canada forum after all). There are *60* Speed/RLC intersection cameras here, all operate on sensors embedded in the road.

The only defense is Waze and personal memory and hoping I'm not temporarily distracted. I admit they worked at a couple of dangerous intersections where people used to blow reds. But now they're just all about $$$, the last stats I read in the paper said they generate 98% speeding tickets now.
 

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Just a heads up, they also exist here in YWG, in case anyone is visiting (this is the Canada forum after all). There are *60* Speed/RLC intersection cameras here, all operate on sensors embedded in the road.

The only defense is Waze and personal memory and hoping I'm not temporarily distracted. I admit they worked at a couple of dangerous intersections where people used to blow reds. But now they're just all about $$$, the last stats I read in the paper said they generate 98% speeding tickets now.
The problem with redlight and speed on green cams is. It’s public preception that it’s needed there for safety and it will reduce accidents.

Our provincial govt of Alberta ordered an independent study on photo enforcement because of the way Edmonton abuses it.

Here is the breakdown on what actually happened here in Edmonton with those intersections cameras

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This is actually a great report. They took into account for as many variables as possible to isolate the effects of photo enforcement. It’s 170page study and I read and studied every page

41% increase in rear enders
9% increase in serious side impact collisions.

This shows that redlight cams has not improved safety. However a poll done by the research groups shows ppl believe redlight cams improve safety

This report was supposed to be release in Oct 2017 and but was withheld til feb 2019

In 2018. Edmonton went crazy adding redlight cams all over city. I’m guessing well over 30.

Makes me wonder what the motive was in the Alberta govt not releasing the report as initially planned
 

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