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TMG has created a motorcycle head. This will be a short length cable on the head,and should jam very well only with one head in the front. We are still adding accessories like a LED that blinks. The audio will have to be used on a BT earpiece, or headset using the TMG remote app. We will figure out the waterproofing cpu. I need to start testing on motorcycles, and looking for testers. You must have access to several lidar guns, including VPR and XLR.
PM if you can test on a bike soon. I'm looking for ideas from RDF as well.

Please keep this thread on topic.

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TMG has created a motorcycle head. This will be a short length cable on the head,and should jam very well only with one head in the front. We are still adding accessories like a LED that blinks. The audio will have to be used on a BT earpiece, or headset using the TMG remote app. We will figure out the waterproofing cpu. I need to start testing on motorcycles, and looking for testers. You must have access to several lidar guns, including VPR and XLR.
PM if you can test on a bike soon. I'm looking for ideas from RDF as well.

Please keep this thread on topic.

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Wow , this is great news, being new to the jammer world I would say based in our tests that 2 heads in the front may be necessary .

As far as the water proofing , most cpus will probably (or should be going) under the seat, so it does not have have to be completely water proof but at least resistant.

Besides the head you will need a mounting bracket with a couple of screws that screw into the plastic of the fairing.

Also a remote that is water proof to shut down the unit that can be installed by the left hand (right one is usually too busy while riding) if the remote came with a speaker that you can hear it over the helmet and at speed it would be huge, but the BT option to pair to the phone works too.

Looking forward to hear the results

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There is a 2 and 3+ sec auto-kill option on TMG remote app,as well as full cpu functionality. @johnboy00 then, there won't be any need to fumble for a remote switch.
 

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There is a 2 and 3+ sec auto-kill option on TMG remote app,as well as full cpu functionality. @johnboy00 then, there won't be any need to fumble for a remote switch.
the GTX has this function as well but it makes me nervous that I may miss the flashing light and also you can't drop anchor on a bike like you can on a car for fear of being rear ended.

Also make sure the LED light has different brightness levels for day and night riding
 

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then, there won't be any need to fumble for a remote switch.
But now you’re fumbling for an app on a phone, with the presumption that it’s mounted and ready for action, and most phones aren’t mounted for quick and easy interactions—especially on a bike.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a great thing that an app is available in general. I’m a fan of the concept. But I think suggesting it makes a real button unnecessary is misguided. Serious users who are interested in buying will still find themselves facing the prospect of hacking the CPU with some sort of homemade kill button like we’ve seen some people do in their cars. If they can do it, I’m certain Ming and his team can produce something as well.

As far as waterproofing, since it’s likely the CPU won’t be mounted within easy reach like is possible (if not optimal) in a car, and since the built-in speaker is unlikely to be necessary/used, you could just provide a waterproof box to fit around the CPU with “rubber” lined cutouts for all the cabling and power and such.

But that would make it a little more bulky. Why not simply provide an alternate case for the CPU guts entirely? Since it’ll be mounted out of sight it doesn’t even need to be “pretty” either. Coat the PCB in a waterproofing solution, surround it in a minimalist case as tight-fitting (small) as possible, and then an enclosure just large enough to close around it and the cabling (to prevent dust and water intrusion). You can even shrink the speaker to something tiny since it will only be providing beeps or spoken words for programming, not a loudspeaker for alerts while driving.

I’m not sure it’s really possible to keep the existing connector designs safe from dust and water intrusion (corrosion, etc) without an enclosure, so make that moto edition CPU as small and simplistic as possible so that the enclosure can be small to match.
 

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But now you’re fumbling for an app on a phone, with the presumption that it’s mounted and ready for action, and most phones aren’t mounted for quick and easy interactions—especially on a bike.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a great thing that an app is available in general. I’m a fan of the concept. But I think suggesting it makes a real button unnecessary is misguided. Serious users who are interested in buying will still find themselves facing the prospect of hacking the CPU with some sort of homemade kill button like we’ve seen some people do in their cars. If they can do it, I’m certain Ming and his team can produce something as well.

As far as waterproofing, since it’s likely the CPU won’t be mounted within easy reach like is possible (if not optimal) in a car, and since the built-in speaker is unlikely to be necessary/used, you could just provide a waterproof box to fit around the CPU with “rubber” lined cutouts for all the cabling and power and such.

But that would make it a little more bulky. Why not simply provide an alternate case for the CPU guts entirely? Since it’ll be mounted out of sight it doesn’t even need to be “pretty” either. Coat the PCB in a waterproofing solution, surround it in a minimalist case as tight-fitting (small) as possible, and then an enclosure just large enough to close around it and the cabling (to prevent dust and water intrusion). You can even shrink the speaker to something tiny since it will only be providing beeps or spoken words for programming, not a loudspeaker for alerts while driving.

I’m not sure it’s really possible to keep the existing connector designs safe from dust and water intrusion (corrosion, etc) without an enclosure, so make that moto edition CPU as small and simplistic as possible so that the enclosure can be small to match.

WHY? With Auto-JTK the rider doesn't need to mess with the App or a kill switch. I haven't JTK'd with my TMG in the Thunderbird since I have owned it nor has my better half. She would not really know how, but when the TMG screams PL3 front she knows to get on the brakes! The TMG does the rest.
 

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WHY? With Auto-JTK the rider doesn't need to mess with the App or a kill switch. I haven't JTK'd with my TMG in the Thunderbird since I have owned it nor has my better half. She would not really know how, but when the TMG screams PL3 front she knows to get on the brakes! The TMG does the rest.
Yea, every time I get hit I hit the brakes and TMG has already just auto-jtked by the time I hit the button (getting better at it but still just barely).

@johnboy00 couldn't we configure the app to work on a button via headphone jack like selfie sticks did? It's one solution.

@Jag42 Or maybe modify the RDT port to connect to the CPU buttons and ground via jumper wires (similar to what I did with my CPU) this way we can have a remote control panel that connects to it (shouldn't be hard to develop but it might be missing a button unless it connects to common ground; probably power since that's the hardest jumper to connect without making the CPU case warp and easily switchable from input). Or if the output power of the speaker is similar to a headphone jack, you can replace the barrel power connector with a headphone jack (same concept with jumper wires)

It's a fairly easy modification to do diy that looks factory. Mine just goes through the RDT port with the connector deleted but to make it easier to service by the end user, the connector can be used easily.
 

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Who has LADAR Guns in the Raleigh NC area? I've got the bike. Lets get some testing done!!!!!
 

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Good to see more coming to the market for motorcycles.

I would also like to mention that heat is an issue. My components (dashcam, Bluetooth module, TPX CPU, air horn relay, USB power converter, garage door opener, brake light modulator..) are mounted next to, or above my engine (or against it) and COOK! I tested my dashcam and the DVR gets to 155+ degrees F. We'll see how long the TPX CPU lasts, but it is cooking on top of a twin 1260cc superbike motor. Not everyone will have cool space to mount stuff since motorcycles vary greatly. Head mounting is the other variable that is wildly different than cars.

FYI: Naked Ducatis have almost no room to mount accessories. Under my seat, there is room for an insurance card, period.
 

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Heres my 2 cents. Make sure the lenses can withstand rock or debris hits without taking damage. My DB688 cam lenses take a beating from dust, rocks, sticks etc. It may sound dumb since normal heads are already exposed but being in the open you realize just how much road crap gets flung around.

Second my current helmet cannot take speakers(comfortably) so make sure that LED is bright AF.
 

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Heres my 2 cents. Make sure the lenses can withstand rock or debris hits without taking damage. My DB688 cam lenses take a beating from dust, rocks, sticks etc. It may sound dumb since normal heads are already exposed but being in the open you realize just how much road crap gets flung around.

Second my current helmet cannot take speakers(comfortably) so make sure that LED is bright AF.
The lenses can be changed out easily.
 

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Heres my 2 cents. Make sure the lenses can withstand rock or debris hits without taking damage. My DB688 cam lenses take a beating from dust, rocks, sticks etc. It may sound dumb since normal heads are already exposed but being in the open you realize just how much road crap gets flung around.

Second my current helmet cannot take speakers(comfortably) so make sure that LED is bright AF.
By car's front end gets gravel blasted because of how low it is and the lenses are fine. Tbh it's a bigger issue on sports cars than bikes.
 

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There is a 2 and 3+ sec auto-kill option on TMG remote app,as well as full cpu functionality. @johnboy00 then, there won't be any need to fumble for a remote switch.
Ready to throw on the 600rr that I have... see what it can do. times 2-3 secs can be good only when it via BT gets transmitted to the ear when you do not want visual (@night) to give the LEO means to pull there after.
 

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Here is the Moto power button, that will eventually blink.

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I think auto jtk would be just fine for me at least. I'd rather not fumble with a physical switch or an app. If you want voice alerts over the intercom then run the app alongside as well but don't be controlling it while riding...

Power button is also nice because some bikes make it hard to wire into switched power sources. If needed the switch allows people to just get power straight off of the battery.
 
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Here is the Moto power button, that will eventually blink.

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Please please make that light super bright. I mean really bright! It would be nice if you could toggle the light on/off and adjust it's brightness in the settings. But, most importantly for a visual attention getter it's going to have to be very very bright.



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Any update on this, or just shorty cables? Looking to play and might keep on the Bike if effective. If not, might have to stick on another vehicle when it comes. Looking to keep things simple right now and not spend on a complete system.

Like to finish this up
 

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Any update on this, or just shorty cables? Looking to play and might keep on the Bike if effective. If not, might have to stick on another vehicle when it comes. Looking to keep things simple right now and not spend on a complete system.

Like to finish this up
Nice bike and head mount position! :beer:
 

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Nice bike and head mount position!
Thanks.. Need shorter cables to complete that proper setup, and maybe get @Kennyc56 to "light me up" and return a few of the favors I have done to him, or another RDFer in the area.

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